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2017-10-11 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Oct 11, 2017, at 11:19 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Oct 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > >> On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:17 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> >>> As Secretary, I flip the Floating Value to 20. >> >> On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:29 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> >>> As Secretary, I

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2017-10-11 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Wed, 11 Oct 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:17 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: As Secretary, I flip the Floating Value to 20. On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:29 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: As Secretary, I flip the Floating Value to 22. On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:54 AM, Owen Jacobson wro

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2017-10-11 Thread VJ Rada
No it wasn't: you might have missed the secretary's revision last week, which came a couple of days after eir first report. On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > CoE: The previous floating value was 132 and V.J. Rada paid 26 shinies for > eir stamp. > > > On 10

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2017-10-11 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
When you purchased this, the floating value was still 132. On 10/11/2017 12:21 AM, VJ Rada wrote: I buy a stamp. On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: As Secretary, I flip the Floating Value to 20. Secretary's Weekly Report Date of this report: Wed, 11 Oct 2017 Date of last

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2017-10-10 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Oct 11, 2017, at 12:47 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > > PF > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 3:46 PM, VJ Rada wrote: >> CoE: Between your last report and this one, I bought a stamp from >> Agora. I'm COEing bc obviously that would change the values again. This mechanism is _shockingly_ brittle. Let’

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2017-10-04 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Oct 4, 2017, at 9:07 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > If I have a stamp, depending on the gamestate, I destroy a stamp, gaining 27 > shinies. According to my records, after the resolution of CFJ 3561, you did have a stamp. -o signature.asc Description: Message signed

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2017-10-04 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Oct 4, 2017, at 12:27 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > > how do i have so many? I had 63 last week, spent a lot, and don't > remember a big payday. It appears that I accidentally counted this transaction On Sep 26, 2017, at 12:53 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > I have like 62 I think? I give Agora 20 shinies

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2017-10-04 Thread Alexis Hunt
On Wed, 4 Oct 2017 at 21:52 Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > On Oct 4, 2017, at 9:35 AM, ATMunn . wrote: > > > > Nevermind, I think I had sent that when I didn't understand pf and > such. Your report is just fine. I retract my CoE (if that's possible, idk > if it is) > > It’s not. However, I could

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2017-10-04 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Oct 4, 2017, at 9:35 AM, ATMunn . wrote: > > Nevermind, I think I had sent that when I didn't understand pf and such. > Your report is just fine. I retract my CoE (if that's possible, idk if it is) It’s not. However, I could deny this CoE, though, and common convention is to deny a C

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2017-10-04 Thread ATMunn .
CoE: A while back I paid Agora 17 shinies, in response to a request someone made for everyone to give 1/3 of their shinies to Agora. I don't see this in the report. (Or, did I send that to the wrong forum?) On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 12:50 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Wed, 4 Oct 2017, VJ Rada w

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2017-10-03 Thread VJ Rada
Also don't forget your empty agronomist report this week! On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 2:27 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > how do i have so many? I had 63 last week, spent a lot, and don't > remember a big payday. > > I destroy my stamp, getting 27 shinies. I transfer 13 shinies to the > Community Chest. > > On

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2017-09-26 Thread Josh T
I see. I forgot about that actually. Carry on. 天火狐 On Sep 26, 2017 21:15, "Owen Jacobson" wrote: > > > On Sep 26, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Josh T wrote: > > > > I haven't been credited with it, so I assumed it has failed, since my 1 > stamp is from August. > > > > 天火狐 > > I have two records for this

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2017-09-26 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Sep 26, 2017, at 11:25 AM, Josh T wrote: > > I haven't been credited with it, so I assumed it has failed, since my 1 stamp > is from August. > > 天火狐 I have two records for this: 2017-08-23 ! 天火狐 created a stamp 2017-09-08 ! 天火狐 created a stamp However, you lost one to Gaelan’s stamp-de

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2017-09-26 Thread Josh T
I haven't been credited with it, so I assumed it has failed, since my 1 stamp is from August. 天火狐 On 26 September 2017 at 10:14, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > On Sep 26, 2017, at 6:46 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < > p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > I purchase a stam

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2017-09-26 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Sep 26, 2017, at 6:46 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > I purchase a stamp for 1 shiny. You last created a Stamp on Sept. 4th, which is within the same Agoran Month as this attempt. I _think_ this was ineffective: > Once per month, a player MAY [sic], by announcement, tra

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Secretary] Weekly Report (revision 2)

2017-09-25 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Sep 26, 2017, at 12:10 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > > On Mon, 2017-09-25 at 23:59 -0400, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> As Secretary, I destroy the organization “Agoran Betting Market”, as >> its Income is below the Income Floor of 50. >> >> If anyone feels like reinstating it, its final charter is re

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2017-09-25 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2017-09-25 at 23:59 -0400, Owen Jacobson wrote: > As Secretary, I destroy the organization “Agoran Betting Market”, as > its Income is below the Income Floor of 50. > > If anyone feels like reinstating it, its final charter is reproduced > below. About time too, I guess; its charter was b

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2017-09-12 Thread Cuddle Beam
Oy Owen, that same argument can be given to anyone who has set the Agora Balance to below 50. On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 4:47 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > Personally I don't care. Cuddlebeam is fine to keep it if e wants. > > On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > >> On Sep 12, 2017,

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2017-09-12 Thread VJ Rada
Personally I don't care. Cuddlebeam is fine to keep it if e wants. On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 12:43 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > >> On Sep 12, 2017, at 2:20 AM, VJ Rada wrote: >> >> I cause myself to receive a welcome package > > For obvious reasons, I believe this actually failed. > > However, I als

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2017-09-12 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Sep 12, 2017, at 2:20 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > > I cause myself to receive a welcome package For obvious reasons, I believe this actually failed. However, I also believe it nominally failed, even if the rules were as they should have been. CuddleBeam’s, ah, creative application of rules 869

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2017-09-12 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I’m sorry, why does it sudden;y become a problem, when you aren’t benefitting from it. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Sep 12, 2017, at 2:24 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > > Formal CoE: This report is a tissue of lies. > > If we aren't fixing it by ratific

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2017-09-11 Thread Aris Merchant
We are fixing it by ratification this week (or at least the floating value, see G.'s RWO), and the fix proposal has been distributed. It's only a matter of time before someone does the "fix everything" ratification too. I recommend that this CoE be denied (note that that would not actually violate

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2017-09-11 Thread Cuddle Beam
You can't, there's no money left (would what I have done succeeded) On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 8:20 AM, VJ Rada wrote: > I cause myself to receive a welcome package > > On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > As Secretary, I flip the Floating Value to 114. > > > > This week: > >

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2017-09-11 Thread VJ Rada
JK JK I don't. On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 4:20 PM, VJ Rada wrote: > I cause myself to receive a welcome package > > On Tue, Sep 12, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> As Secretary, I flip the Floating Value to 114. >> >> This week: >> >> * Pending a proposal costs 1 AP or 6 sh. >> * Calling f

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2017-08-16 Thread Aris Merchant
On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 10:24 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > On Aug 17, 2017, at 1:20 AM, Aris Merchant > wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 10:18 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >>> On Aug 17, 2017, at 1:17 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: Secretary's Weekly Report Balances:

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2017-08-16 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Aug 17, 2017, at 1:20 AM, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 10:18 PM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >> >>> On Aug 17, 2017, at 1:17 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: >>> >>> Secretary's Weekly Report >>> >>> Balances: >>> >>> 85 Shinies Agora >> >> As Secretary, I flip the Floating

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2017-07-29 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2017-07-29 at 00:34 -0400, Owen Jacobson wrote: > On Jul 28, 2017, at 9:55 AM, Nic Evans wrote: > > Real idea: Ratify the Ruleset every Read the Ruleset Week. > Seconded. I like this idea, but it should be a tradition that we do so via proposal, as opposed to something automatic in the ru

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2017-07-28 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Jul 28, 2017, at 9:55 AM, Nic Evans wrote: > > On 07/27/2017 08:30 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: >> I note that GII disturbingly requires the SLR to be _accurate_ for any of >> the actions to happen. What's the likelihood of that, when (according to >> itself) it hasn't been ratified in 3 yea

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2017-07-28 Thread Nic Evans
On 07/27/2017 08:30 PM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: I note that GII disturbingly requires the SLR to be _accurate_ for any of the actions to happen. What's the likelihood of that, when (according to itself) it hasn't been ratified in 3 years... Greetings, Ørjan. Real idea: Ratify the Ruleset ever

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2017-07-27 Thread V.J Rada
Surely it should be presumed accurate until somebody finds an inaccuracy On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > On Wed, 26 Jul 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > On Jul 26, 2017, at 9:48 PM, Nic Evans wrote: >>> >>> CoE: Gaelan paid me 2 shinies (through GII, when I published the

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2017-07-27 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Wed, 26 Jul 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: On Jul 26, 2017, at 9:48 PM, Nic Evans wrote: CoE: Gaelan paid me 2 shinies (through GII, when I published the Rulekeepor report). Note the report’s effective date. (Sorry - I was out of town on short notice.) That payment will appear in this week’

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2017-07-26 Thread Owen Jacobson
> On Jul 26, 2017, at 9:48 PM, Nic Evans wrote: > > CoE: Gaelan paid me 2 shinies (through GII, when I published the Rulekeepor > report). Note the report’s effective date. (Sorry - I was out of town on short notice.) That payment will appear in this week’s report. -o signature.asc Descri

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2017-06-15 Thread Quazie
You're gonna break that pledge, aren't you? On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 20:23 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Secretary's Weekly Report > > I pledge that I SHALL NOT deny any CoE concerning this alleged report. > > I note that I do NOT give any willful consent to

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2017-06-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 16 Jun 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2017-06-15 at 20:04 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > This logic (the Secretary's Report can only be published by the  > > Secretary) would still break the whole purpose of allowing anyone to > > do it in times when the Secretary is uncertain, I think.

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2017-06-15 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2017-06-15 at 20:04 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > This logic (the Secretary's Report can only be published by the  > Secretary) would still break the whole purpose of allowing anyone to > do it in times when the Secretary is uncertain, I think. Well, you could do it via RWO if you know that

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2017-06-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 16 Jun 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2017-06-15 at 18:23 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > On Fri, 16 Jun 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > > > there's at least one error in it. Thus, in order to block ratification, > > > I picked the mistake in the report that was a) most clearly a mistake,

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2017-06-15 Thread V.J Rada
Unless "e SHALL either impose summary judgement on a player" means he must only do it to one player to be absolved of this rule. The card rules are badly written. On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 11:51 AM, V.J Rada wrote: > Fun fact about cards " > > As part of the Referee's weekly duties, e SHALL

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2017-06-15 Thread V.J Rada
Fun fact about cards " As part of the Referee's weekly duties, e SHALL either impose Summary Judgment on a player or truthfully announce that e believes that there are no rules violations in the preceding Agoran week for which a Card has not already been issued." conflicts

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2017-06-15 Thread Owen Jacobson
On Jun 15, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Thu, 15 Jun 2017, Alex Smith wrote: >> On Thu, 2017-06-15 at 07:49 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> Secretary's Weekly Report >> >> Just to make absolutely sure: >> >> CoE: You are not the Secretary. > > C'mon now. You just said yourself that t

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2017-06-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 16 Jun 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > there's at least one error in it. Thus, in order to block ratification, > I picked the mistake in the report that was a) most clearly a mistake, > and b) hardest for you to correct. But I don't need to correct that for this particular self-ratification

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2017-06-15 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2017-06-15 at 16:14 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Thu, 15 Jun 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > > On Thu, 2017-06-15 at 07:49 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Secretary's Weekly Report > >  > > Just to make absolutely sure: > >  > > CoE: You are not the Secretary. > > C'mon now.  You just said

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2017-06-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 15 Jun 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2017-06-15 at 07:49 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Secretary's Weekly Report > > Just to make absolutely sure: > > CoE: You are not the Secretary. C'mon now. You just said yourself that the rule was designed so that anyone could do it. CoEing t

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2017-06-14 Thread Owen Jacobson
Gameplay note: On Jun 14, 2017, at 3:23 AM, Quazie wrote: > COE - I paid 30 shinies to pend my 5 oroposals In the interests of friendliness and expedience, I choose to interpret > For each proposal submitted above, of which there are 5, I N shinies to Agora > to pend the proposal, where N is