Re: [petsc-dev] VecGetArrayAndMemType

2021-06-24 Thread Jed Brown
https://gitlab.com/petsc/petsc/-/commit/d7dd068b66a8daa3a37c9e1556b34bd8def54922 On Thu, Jun 24, 2021, at 11:40 AM, Mark Adams wrote: > How does one view a commit on gitlab? > I would like to look at d7dd068b66a8daa3a37c9e1556b34bd8def54922 > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 9:58 AM Mark Adams wrote:

Re: [petsc-users] Tracking a NaN in FVM gradient computation

2021-06-20 Thread Jed Brown
Looks like this is the relevant code. for (d = 0; d < dim; ++d) { if (cgrad[0]) cgrad[0][pd*dim+d] += fg->grad[0][d] * delta; if (cgrad[1]) cgrad[1][pd*dim+d] -= fg->grad[1][d] * delta; } I ran in a debugger and found there was already nan here: Thread 1 "ex11"

Re: [Vo]:Some ICCF-23 videos uploaded already

2021-06-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
This has been brought up to date every day. On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 5:41 PM Jed Rothwell wrote: > See: > > http://ikkem.com/iccf-23_oralab.php >

[Vo]:Some ICCF-23 videos uploaded already

2021-06-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://ikkem.com/iccf-23_oralab.php

[tw5] Re: Simple authentication options for Bob

2021-06-07 Thread Jed Carty
I never used basic auth with Bob on nginx, but other people have and the thing that is probably missing is proxying websockets. The information here should cover it http://nginx.org/en/docs/http/websocket.html I am hoping that the day job will slow down enough soon so I can get back to

Re: looking for any suggestions on strong IPhone cables.

2021-06-06 Thread Jed Barton
I'll ahve to look it up, but it's often called amazon basic cables. it has like a rope coating around the outside, and it outlasts everything I've ver had. On 6/6/21, Joshua Hendrickson wrote: > Anker also makes great iPhone cables as well. > > On 6/5/21, Don Ball wrote: >> you can find good

[Vo]:Reminder: ICCF23 starts June 8 (or June 9)

2021-06-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
ICCF23 starts on June 8, 2021, or on June 9, depending on your time zone. The preliminary program is here: http://ikkem.com/iccf-23_program.php Registration is free, but you have to register to see the presentations.

Re: [petsc-users] reproducibility

2021-05-28 Thread Jed Brown
Matthew Knepley writes: > On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 12:05 PM Mark Adams wrote: > >> On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 11:53 AM Lawrence Mitchell wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> > On 28 May 2021, at 16:51, Mark Adams wrote: >>> > >>> > It sounds like I should get one branch settled, use it, and keep that >>> branch

Re: [petsc-dev] links from manual pages to users manual

2021-05-27 Thread Jed Brown
Patrick Sanan writes: >> Am 26.05.2021 um 18:39 schrieb Jed Brown : >> >> Patrick Sanan mailto:patrick.sa...@gmail.com>> >> writes: >> >>>> Am 25.05.2021 um 22:58 schrieb Barry Smith : >>>> >>>> >>>>

Re: [Rust] [Discuss] proposal to redesign Arrow crate to resolve safety violations

2021-05-27 Thread Jed Brown
Andy Grove writes: > > Looking at this purely from the DataFusion/Ballista point of view, what I > would be interested in would be having a branch of DF that uses arrow2 and > once that branch has all tests passing and can run queries with performance > that is at least as good as the original

Re: [petsc-dev] links from manual pages to users manual

2021-05-26 Thread Jed Brown
Patrick Sanan writes: >> Am 25.05.2021 um 22:58 schrieb Barry Smith : >> >> >> Now that the users manual is html and we can properly link into it, it >> would be great to have links from the manual pages to appropriate locations >> in the users manual. For example SNESSetFunction.html

Re: Dave Beaty Re: [Vo]:ufo report to be coming out in a month

2021-05-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Michael Foster wrote: > Everyone just assumes that these visitors must be from civilizations far > advanced from our own. That may or may not be true. > If they are actually visitors from other civilizations, they have to be far advanced. They cannot be from anywhere in the solar system. Our

Re: Dave Beaty Re: [Vo]:ufo report to be coming out in a month

2021-05-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > I think there is no likelihood aliens would need help from us, and no > likelihood they crashed or their equipment failed. A technology capable of > crossing interstellar space with devices as large as this would be > "indistinguishable from magic" (Clarke) and it would be hundreds or

Re: Dave Beaty Re: [Vo]:ufo report to be coming out in a month

2021-05-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: In that case, the most likely thing ET would need to continue their mission > is replacement of advanced chips and electronics. To get these parts, > however, they might first need to intervene somehow in the normal process > of R on earth by influencing progress and directing

Re: [petsc-users] Using SNES to solve Non linear elasticity, passing matrix to form function

2021-05-19 Thread Jed Brown
You may be interested in discussion of computing and representing Newton linearizations for hyperelasticity starting here: https://libceed.readthedocs.io/en/latest/examples/solids/#id4 Kaushik Vijaykumar writes: > Thanks Matt, for pointing me in the right direction. > > > > On Wed, May 19,

Re: [petsc-dev] git worktree

2021-05-18 Thread Jed Brown
I don't follow the advantage over lightweight clones, such as: $ git clone --branch=release --reference petsc gitlab:petsc/petsc petsc-release Cloning into 'petsc-release'... remote: Enumerating objects: 261, done. remote: Counting objects: 100% (261/261), done. remote: Compressing objects: 100%

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Airflow Helm Chart 1.0.0 based on 1.0.0rc2

2021-05-17 Thread Jed Cunningham
several combinations using the index.html "dev" > source > * airflow works out-of-the box in all those combinations > > I also see the changes coming from Jed which are fixing the documentation > about the env vars which look really good. > > Fantastic job! > &

[tw5] Announcing: Cloud-Enabled TiddlyBlock WikiChain 3.0, IoT Edition, bringing the power of blockchain to your wiki.

2021-05-11 Thread Jed Carty
If you wish to skip to the working demo where you can https://ooktech-tw.gitlab.io/plugins/tiddly-block-wiki-chain/ By popular demand I have created a TiddlyWiki-based blockchain that runs completely inside your browser: the *Coud-Enabled TiddlyBlock WikiChain 3.0, IoT Edition*, the worlds

Re: [tw5] Is blockchain still not for TW?

2021-05-10 Thread Jed Carty
ated. > > Cheers, > Hans > > On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 5:14:52 AM UTC-4 inmy...@gmail.com wrote: > >> or perhaps I am being too hard on the idea. Instead if you all want I can >> add blockchain to tiddlywiki and sell NFTs pointing to wikis that I made, >> like

Re: [tw5] Is blockchain still not for TW?

2021-05-10 Thread Jed Carty
or perhaps I am being too hard on the idea. Instead if you all want I can add blockchain to tiddlywiki and sell NFTs pointing to wikis that I made, like the original twederation wiki or the interaction fiction wiki. On Monday, May 10, 2021 at 10:54:03 AM UTC+2 Jed Carty wrote: >

Re: [tw5] Is blockchain still not for TW?

2021-05-10 Thread Jed Carty
Yes, the central question is could blockchain be useful to tiddlywiki. And so far the only answer has been to use it as a proof of existence by storing what is in one blockchain (file hashes in git) in a different from in another block chain. Also, traceability in a blockchain is guaranteed

Re: [tw5] Is blockchain still not for TW?

2021-05-08 Thread Jed Carty
The first, and really only, question about all of this is, what would be improved by adding a blockchain or NFTs? And then, if somehow there is something to improve, is the improvement get us more than the cost in complexity and real-word resources required to build and maintain the chain?

Re: [VOTE] Airflow Providers - release prepared 2021-05-01

2021-05-05 Thread Jed Cunningham
+1 (non-binding) On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 1:21 PM Kaxil Naik wrote: > +1 (binding) > > On Wed, May 5, 2021, 20:11 wrote: > >> +1 >> >> śr., 5 maj 2021 o 20:59 Tomasz Urbaszek >> napisał(a): >> > >> > +1, checked checksums, signatures and licenses >> > >> > On Wed, 5 May 2021 at 20:50,

Re: [Vo]:nuclear salt water reactor for propulsion in space

2021-05-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > Ed Storms worked on the conventional fission rockets shown in this video. > I asked him if he thinks this is plausible. > He does not think it is plausible, for reasons too complicated to describe briefly. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:nuclear salt water reactor for propulsion in space

2021-05-04 Thread Jed Rothwell
I like it! Ed Storms worked on the conventional fission rockets shown in this video. I asked him if he thinks this is plausible. The paper is linked from the video discussion, here: https://arc.aiaa.org/doi/abs/10.2514/6.1990-2371

[Vo]:How Pfizer Makes Its Covid-19 Vaccine

2021-04-28 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is a *fascinating* look at the Pfizer production lines. Amazing! It looks a lot like a top-quality experiment. Which it is. See: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/health/pfizer-coronavirus-vaccine.html This has both text and short, high resolution video portions. It shows close-ups

Re: [petsc-users] VecDeviceGetArray?

2021-04-27 Thread Jed Brown
https://petsc.org/main/docs/manualpages/Vec/VecGetArrayAndMemType.html Mark Adams writes: > Have we abstracted VecCUDAGetArray[Read] ? > > VecDeviceGetArray? > > Mark

Re: [petsc-dev] empty space on left side of website pages

2021-04-26 Thread Jed Brown
t's on > the front page - in the interests of simplicity and focusing on getting the > build stable, I haven't been focusing on it, but there is still discussion to > be had about whether and how to make a prettier front/landing page. > >> Am 26.04.2021 um 21:05 schrieb Jed Brown : >

Re: [petsc-dev] empty space on left side of website pages

2021-04-26 Thread Jed Brown
The sphinx-pydata-theme has great mobile support and lots of development energy behind it. I don't want to switch themes again based on a sidebar sizing concern. If the sidebar width is super important, we can adjust the CSS. The standard CSS has this, which I think is what we'd want to adjust.

A Mayberry Scene

2021-04-20 Thread Jed McCann
in them though to continue to the next generation I’m sure many of you will feel blessed to know. Thanks Jed Mocksville, NC Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 13, 2021, at 12:39 PM, wbmutbb-requ...@wbmutbb.com wrote: > > Send WBMUTBB mailing list submissions to >wbmutbb

Re: [VOTE] Release Airflow 2.0.2 from RC1

2021-04-19 Thread Jed Cunningham
+1 (non-binding). Ran through some simple scenarios with LocalExecutor and KubernetesExecutor. On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 9:04 AM Daniel Imberman wrote: > +1 (Binding) > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 6:31 AM, Elad Kalif wrote: > > +1 non binding > tested on several of my dags > > On Mon, Apr 19,

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Copying Rust components to new repositories

2021-04-18 Thread Jed Brown
Andy Grove writes: > We started looking at the documentation for git filter-branch and it > recommends not to use it. It states that "git-filter-branch is riddled with > gotchas resulting in various ways to easily corrupt repos or end up with a > mess worse than what you started with:". I've

Re: [petsc-dev] how do people manage projects that require two or more PETSc branches

2021-04-17 Thread Jed Brown
One option is to work on the throw-away combined branch as above, keep your commits for the two topics distinct, then cherry-pick out into the separate topic branches. If you are committing in the topics and respinning the throw-away branch, I would recommend rerere, so you don't have to

Re: [petsc-users] Understanding streams test on AMD EPYC 7502

2021-04-16 Thread Jed Brown
Blaise A Bourdin writes: > Thanks for the reference timing. I can use this to talk to the vendor (or > switch vendor…). > > I am on a 2 socket system. It looks like the node the vendor built for me has > 4 DIMMS, possibly all connected to the same socket? > > [amduser@gigi ~]$ numactl -H >

Re: Discussion on Airflow Multi-Tenancy

2021-04-16 Thread Jed Cunningham
sure you see that thread and can join if you are able. Jed On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 4:18 PM Alexander Ursu wrote: > Hi, I was encouraged to send a message to this mailing list in a > discussion I opened on the Airflow GitHub here > https://github.com/apache/airflow/discussions/14936 >

Re: [petsc-users] Understanding streams test on AMD EPYC 7502

2021-04-16 Thread Jed Brown
Blaise A Bourdin writes: > Hi, > > I am test-driving hardware for a new machine for my group and having a hard > time making sense the output of the stream test: > > I am attaching the results and my reference (xeon 8260 nodes on QueenBee 3 at > LONI). > > If I understand correctly, on the AMD

Re: CI feedback time

2021-04-15 Thread Jed Brown
Wes McKinney writes: > I think we should take a more serious look at Buildkite for some of our CI. > > * First of all, it's very easy to connect self-hosted workers and > supports ephemeral cloud workers in a way that would be difficult or > impossible with GHA. No need to have Infra fiddle with

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Carbon monoxide alarm

2021-04-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
The furnace is in the crawlspace, so I don't know if a leak from the flu would come into the house. It sure would if the furnace were installed in a closet in the house. Anyway, they replaced the whole kit and caboodle. I prefer it that way. I now have faith in the CO alarm, but not too much

Re: [Vo]:OFF TOPIC Carbon monoxide alarm

2021-04-07 Thread Jed Rothwell
bobcook39...@hotmail.com wrote: Did your old furnace have a closed combustion system with a separate > fresh air pipe and combustion gas exhaust? > They all do, as far as I know. I don't recall the model and it is now out the door. The new one is a Trane S8B1:

[Vo]:OFF TOPIC Carbon monoxide alarm

2021-04-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
I strongly recommend that readers equip their houses with alarms for smoke and carbon monoxide. A carbon monoxide alarm may have saved my life a few days ago. Some of the things it did surprised me, and made me think it was a false alarm, so let me describe what happened. If you ignore what you

Re: [Vo]:OT: Nissan e-POWER technology explained

2021-04-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: > There are no gas stations in the middle of nowhere either. Granted, gas > stations are much more prevalent than chargers. Also, when a gasoline car > runs out of fuel, you can park it somewhere, get a ride to a gas station, > bring back a gallon of fuel in a plastic tank, and refuel

Re: [Vo]:OT: Nissan e-POWER technology explained

2021-04-06 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: There's virtually no maintenance...just brakes and tires and very little of > the former. > The brakes do not wear down because they have regenerative braking. Prius brakes last a long time for the same reason.

Re: [Vo]:OT: Nissan e-POWER technology explained

2021-04-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
CB Sites wrote: It's interesting Jed, there is a 12V car battery in the back of the car > that is charged from the Li batteries, which is charged from the engine. > The 12V is used for the car electronics. I did see a youtube video of a > guy that used a 2000W 12V inverter for emerge

Re: [Vo]:OT: Nissan e-POWER technology explained

2021-04-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
CB Sites wrote: > When home, I plug it in with the 115V charger device that plugs into a > standard 3 prong outlet. Nothing special. It takes about 6-8 hrs for a > full charge. Most commutes for me are about 30miles so I never see the > gas engine. Last year my TOTAL gas consumption for

Re: [Vo]:OT: Nissan e-POWER technology explained

2021-04-05 Thread Jed Rothwell
AlanG wrote: I think a better question is how the Nissan is better than the Chevy Volt, > which was discontinued after 5 years for disappointing sales, possibly from > failing to meet efficiency expectations. > It has not been discontinued. It is still for sale:

Re: [petsc-dev] [petsc-users] [EXTERNAL] Re: Question about periodic conditions

2021-04-01 Thread Jed Brown
Matthew Knepley writes: > We use it to identify that the mesh is periodic and in what directions, and > use the length if we have to figure out the coordinates. > >> Jed may argue that he wants you to retain the far point and use L2G to >> eliminate it, but that sounds

Re: [petsc-dev] Tag name v3.15

2021-03-31 Thread Jed Brown
Satish Balay via petsc-dev writes: > On Wed, 31 Mar 2021, Lisandro Dalcin wrote: > >> On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 at 18:07, Satish Balay wrote: >> >> > And we just use 2 level workflow, and have branches for each of the >> > 'releases' [as we move from one to the other] >> > >> >> Maybe I'm not

Re: [petsc-dev] Tag name v3.15

2021-03-31 Thread Jed Brown
Satish Balay via petsc-dev writes: > > https://semver.org/ > > Given a version number MAJOR.MINOR.PATCH, increment the: > > MAJOR version when you make incompatible API changes, > MINOR version when you add functionality in a backwards compatible > manner, and > PATCH version

Re: [petsc-users] Code speedup after upgrading

2021-03-28 Thread Jed Brown
t; --Junchao Zhang > > > On Sun, Mar 28, 2021 at 3:34 PM Jed Brown wrote: > >> I take it this was using MAT_SUBSET_OFF_PROC_ENTRIES. I implemented that >> to help performance of PHASTA and other applications that assemble matrices >> that are relatively cheap to solve (s

Re: [petsc-users] Code speedup after upgrading

2021-03-28 Thread Jed Brown
I take it this was using MAT_SUBSET_OFF_PROC_ENTRIES. I implemented that to help performance of PHASTA and other applications that assemble matrices that are relatively cheap to solve (so assembly cost is significant compared to preconditioner setup and KSPSolve) and I'm glad it helps so much

Re: [petsc-users] DMPlex: vtk/vtu support for labels

2021-03-26 Thread Jed Brown
Cameron Smith writes: > Hello, > > I'm debugging our use of DMLabel to mark the mesh vertices in a 2d > triangular mesh on the geometric model boundary. > > From what I understand, the latex/tikz and glvis viewers support > rendering user labels via the following options: > > tikz: > -dm_view

[Vo]:Whether Cold Fusion or Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions, U.S. Navy Researchers Reopen Case

2021-03-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
News report: https://spectrum.ieee.org/tech-talk/energy/nuclear/cold-fusion-or-low-energy-nuclear-reactions-us-navy-researchers-reopen-case Whether Cold Fusion or Low-Energy Nuclear Reactions, U.S. Navy Researchers Reopen Case Spurred on by continued anomalous nuclear results, multiple labs now

Re: [petsc-dev] Petsc "make test" have more failures for --with-openmp=1

2021-03-19 Thread Jed Brown
Matthew Knepley writes: >> PetscSectionSetUp currently calculates offsets by walking the points in >> order. I'd like to be able to walk them in a different ordering, perhaps >> specified via an IS permutation, which could be computed using >> MATORDERINGRCM or directly via BFS of a closure

Re: [petsc-users] Petsc on AMD EPYC

2021-03-19 Thread Jed Brown
e same test on LSU > machines (Xeon 8260). > Blaise > > > On Mar 19, 2021, at 10:27 AM, Jed Brown > mailto:j...@jedbrown.org>> wrote: > > Blaise A Bourdin mailto:bour...@lsu.edu>> writes: > > Hi, > > I am pricing out a new small cluster for my group a

Re: [petsc-dev] Petsc "make test" have more failures for --with-openmp=1

2021-03-19 Thread Jed Brown
Matthew Knepley writes: > On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 2:21 PM Jed Brown wrote: > >> Matthew Knepley writes: >> >> >> Notice how the permutations are contained within the vertices {0, ..., >> 8}, >> >> edges {9, ..., 24}, and cells {25, ..., 32}. I

Re: [petsc-dev] Petsc "make test" have more failures for --with-openmp=1

2021-03-19 Thread Jed Brown
Matthew Knepley writes: >> Notice how the permutations are contained within the vertices {0, ..., 8}, >> edges {9, ..., 24}, and cells {25, ..., 32}. I would like to get rid of >> that restriction, but you've said it would have significant non-local >> consequences so I haven't tried. >> > >

Re: [petsc-dev] Petsc "make test" have more failures for --with-openmp=1

2021-03-19 Thread Jed Brown
Lawrence Mitchell writes: >> On 19 Mar 2021, at 14:21, Jed Brown wrote: >> >> Notice how the permutations are contained within the vertices {0, ..., 8}, >> edges {9, ..., 24}, and cells {25, ..., 32}. I would like to get rid of that >> restriction, but you've

Re: [petsc-dev] Petsc "make test" have more failures for --with-openmp=1

2021-03-19 Thread Jed Brown
Matthew Knepley writes: > On Fri, Mar 19, 2021 at 7:30 AM Lawrence Mitchell wrote: > >> > On 19 Mar 2021, at 03:51, Jed Brown wrote: >> > >> > It's a notable weakness of DMPlex that it does not apply such an >> ordering of dofs and I've complained to Mat

Re: [petsc-dev] Petsc "make test" have more failures for --with-openmp=1

2021-03-18 Thread Jed Brown
Note that this is specific to the node numbering, and that node numbering tends to produce poor results even for MatMult due to poor cache reuse of the vector. It's good practice after partitioning to use a locality-preserving ordering of dofs on a process (e.g., RCM if you use MatOrdering).

Re: [DISCUSS] How to describe computation on Arrow data?

2021-03-18 Thread Jed Brown
I'm interested in providing some path to make this extensible. To pick an example, suppose the user wants to compute the first k principle components. We've talked [1] about the possibility of incorporating richer communication semantics in Ballista (a la MPI sub-communicators) and numerical

Re: an accessible driving game

2021-03-17 Thread Jed Barton
Hey guys, So right off the bat I'm having an issue with this blind drive game. It said something about sign out of game center. I click on the OK button, and it does nothing. Any ideas? On 3/17/21, Johna Gravitt wrote: > Also if you search the ap store for blind fold games the app will come up

Re: [petsc-dev] Argonne GPU Virtual Hackathon - Accepted

2021-03-12 Thread Jed Brown
Barry Smith writes: >> On Mar 12, 2021, at 6:58 PM, Jed Brown wrote: >> >> Barry Smith writes: >> >>> I think we should start porting the PetscFE infrastructure, numerical >>> integrations, vector and matrix assembly to GPUs soon. It i

Re: [petsc-dev] Argonne GPU Virtual Hackathon - Accepted

2021-03-12 Thread Jed Brown
Barry Smith writes: > I think we should start porting the PetscFE infrastructure, numerical > integrations, vector and matrix assembly to GPUs soon. It is dog slow on CPUs > and should be able to deliver higher performance on GPUs. IMO, this comes via interfaces to libCEED, not rolling

Re: [petsc-dev] Argonne GPU Virtual Hackathon - Accepted

2021-03-12 Thread Jed Brown
writes: > Jed, > > Thanks for the insight. > > Maybe Hong and his Ellpack format? Or his independent set algorithm? > > Maybe Stefano and his COO matrix assembly on GPUs? > > Others? > > Barry > > >> On Mar 12, 2021, at 4:37 P

Re: [petsc-dev] Fwd: Argonne GPU Virtual Hackathon - Accepted

2021-03-12 Thread Jed Brown
I helped with one of these a couple years ago. It's important to go in with a well-defined problem and mini-app. If "PETSc" is the topic, then you should start with a representative benchmark problem that runs in no more than a couple minutes. It could be two problems, one that we think is good

Re: [petsc-dev] Are pipelines down?

2021-03-11 Thread Jed Brown
Says the pipeline was canceled. The branch comes from a fork so it should need approval to run. https://gitlab.com/petsc/petsc/-/merge_requests/3707 Matthew Knepley writes: > https://gitlab.com/danfinn/petsc/-/pipelines/269297070 > > Thanks, > > Matt > > -- > What most experimenters

Re: [petsc-users] DMPlex in Firedrake: scaling of mesh distribution

2021-03-07 Thread Jed Brown
There is some use of Iscatterv in SF implementations (though it looks like perhaps not PetscSFBcast where the root nodes are consolidated on a root rank). We should perhaps have a function that analyzes the graph to set the type rather than requiring the caller to PetscSFSetType. Barry Smith

Re: [petsc-dev] plan to transition to new documentation and webpages?

2021-03-06 Thread Jed Brown
The one value-add that comes from ReadTheDocs is its version switcher, which we'd need to do ourselves. I've been using this strategy (for stand-alone preview) on a different project and it's working great. We can decide how to merge it (i.e., where the doc job should run).

Re: [petsc-dev] Commit squashing in MR

2021-03-04 Thread Jed Brown
If you're in Emacs, Magit (https://github.com/magit/magit) is excellent for much the same things, and works over remote (i.e., I'm editing "ssh:thathost:path/to/file.c" and invoke magit). There's also a (partial) magit clone for vscode.

Re: [petsc-dev] Case TS005062693 - XLF: ICE in xlfentry compiling a module with 358 subroutines

2021-03-03 Thread Jed Brown
I wonder if gfortran has a similar "bug" but larger capacity that would explain why it's so much more expensive to compile the Fortran interface files than to compile all of PETSc. Barry Smith writes: >PETSc stacks the Fortran modules in the same way it stacks the C include > files. So

Re: [petsc-dev] Commit squashing in MR

2021-03-02 Thread Jed Brown
Satish Balay via petsc-dev writes: > On Wed, 3 Mar 2021, Blaise A Bourdin wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> This is not technically a petsc question. >> It would be great to have a short section in the PETSc integration workflow >> document explaining how to squash commits in a MR for git-impaired >>

Re: [Vo]:Many years later...

2021-02-26 Thread Jed Rothwell
Don't fret about it. We have thick skin in this business. Welcome back! On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 10:10 PM Kyle Mcallister wrote: > Hello again, Vortexians. > > It's been a long time, perhaps 10 years or so since I've been here. I > can't recall exactly, but that was another life. You'd be

Re: [petsc-users] Preconditioner for LSC

2021-02-24 Thread Jed Brown
split_1_lsc_pc_type mat" ? > > Elena > > Il giorno mer 24 feb 2021 alle ore 06:04 Jed Brown ha > scritto: > >> If you've already attached a MatShell, you could presumably use >> -fieldsplit_1_lsc_pc_type mat to just call its MatMult. >> >> T

Re: [petsc-users] Preconditioner for LSC

2021-02-23 Thread Jed Brown
If you've already attached a MatShell, you could presumably use -fieldsplit_1_lsc_pc_type mat to just call its MatMult. The sense I've gotten when I wrote PCLSC and was experimenting with these methods is that the main selling point of LSC (for most discretizations) is that it's more algebraic

Re: [Vo]:It Might Be Over This Spring

2021-02-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Note that one of the NYT projections also shows April as the date herd immunity begins. Look at the graph with three choices labeled "CHOSE A SCENARIO." Select the third choice: Huge supply increase 5 million shots per day The text changes to: It’s a stretch, but if the pace increases to 5

Re: [Vo]:It Might Be Over This Spring

2021-02-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: Taking into account one thing and another, the WSJ and the NYT estimates > are not far apart. > WSJ predicts April, NYT predicts July. A 3-month difference is not gigantic given all the unknowns. For example, what percent of the population will it take for herd immunity to begin? The

Re: [Vo]:It Might Be Over This Spring

2021-02-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Taking into account one thing and another, the WSJ and the NYT estimates are not far apart. Herd immunity is not an absolute condition, and it does not turn on all at once over a certain threshold. The gradations in orange color at the top of the NYT graph show that it emerges gradually.

Re: [Vo]:It Might Be Over This Spring

2021-02-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
The WSJ article is behind a paywall. I hope this doctor is right. Other estimates put herd immunity sometime around August. See: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/02/20/us/us-herd-immunity-covid.html (I think this NYT article is not behind the paywall.) On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 9:13 PM

Re: [petsc-dev] Understanding Vecscatter with Kokkos Vecs

2021-02-19 Thread Jed Brown
Patrick Sanan writes: > Aside: it's been on the list of good things to do, docs-wise, to be able to > label parts of the API as more or less stable, so I'm hoping we'll get to > that (though I think it makes sense to wait until we've finished some of the > current migrations tasks). Yes, I

Re: [petsc-dev] Understanding Vecscatter with Kokkos Vecs

2021-02-19 Thread Jed Brown
ISCUDA isn't even right (perhaps ISGENERALCUDA, ISBLOCKCUDA). I agree that this isn't a priority, but I could see it being needed in the next few years to avoid bottlenecks in adaptive mesh refinement or other adaptive algorithms. It's not a small amount of work, but I think all the index

[petsc-users] RSE and Postdoc openings at CU Boulder

2021-02-18 Thread Jed Brown
My research group has openings for a Research Software Engineer and a Postdoc. Details and application links below; feel free to email me with questions. ## Research Software Engineer CU Boulder’s PSAAP Multidisciplinary Simulation Center for Micromorphic Multiphysics Porous and Particulate

[petsc-dev] RSE and Postdoc openings at CU Boulder

2021-02-18 Thread Jed Brown
My research group has openings for a Research Software Engineer and a Postdoc. Details and application links below; feel free to email me with questions. ## Research Software Engineer CU Boulder’s PSAAP Multidisciplinary Simulation Center for Micromorphic Multiphysics Porous and Particulate

Re: [petsc-users] Explicit linking to OpenMP results in performance drop and wrong results

2021-02-17 Thread Jed Brown
Roland Richter writes: > Hei, > > the compilation line is (as shown below) > > //usr/lib64/mpi/gcc/openmpi3/bin/mpicxx -DBOOST_ALL_NO_LIB > -DBOOST_FILESYSTEM_DYN_LINK -DBOOST_MPI_DYN_LINK > -DBOOST_PROGRAM_OPTIONS_DYN_LINK -DBOOST_SERIALIZATION_DYN_LINK > -DUSE_CUDA >

[Vo]:Re: CMNS: Physics Today does not allow references to peer-reviewed cold fusion literature

2021-02-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
There is no getting through to people like the editors at Physics Today. I expect that even if everyone here were to write to them, they would reject every message. They think of themselves as fair, objective and open minded. Perhaps they are open minded about some subjects, but not cold fusion.

Re: [petsc-users] Explicit linking to OpenMP results in performance drop and wrong results

2021-02-17 Thread Jed Brown
It's entirely possible, especially if libgomp is being mixed with libiomp. Roland hasn't show us the compilation line (just linker), because `omp parallel` shouldn't do anything with just -fopenmp-simd and no -fopenmp. Matthew Knepley writes: > Jed, is it possi

[Vo]:Physics Today does not allow references to peer-reviewed cold fusion literature

2021-02-17 Thread Jed Rothwell
the right kind of scientists to be doing the work. In neither case was it enough, at the time, simply to say the results weren’t replicated, even though that is how we describe it in retrospect." I posted the following response, which was removed. Jed Rothwell <https://disqus.com/by/disqu

Re: [petsc-users] Explicit linking to OpenMP results in performance drop and wrong results

2021-02-17 Thread Jed Brown
Roland Richter writes: > Hei, > > I replaced the linking line with > > //usr/lib64/mpi/gcc/openmpi3/bin/mpicxx  -march=native -fopenmp-simd > -DMKL_LP64 -m64 > CMakeFiles/armadillo_with_PETSc.dir/Unity/unity_0_cxx.cxx.o -o > bin/armadillo_with_PETSc  >

Re: [petsc-users] Explicit linking to OpenMP results in performance drop and wrong results

2021-02-17 Thread Jed Brown
You're using an MKL linked to Intel's OpenMP. I could imagine there being symbol conflicts causing MKL to compute wrong results if libgomp symbols are picked up. Note that -fopenmp-simd does not require linking -- it just gives the compiler hints about how to vectorize. So you can probably

Re: [petsc-dev] Rebuilding pets-library only

2021-02-17 Thread Jed Brown
make libs should do that. Blaise A Bourdin writes: > Hi, > > Is there a way to rebuild the petsc library only, skipping rebuilding mpi4py > and petsc4py if petsc is configured with them? I know I can ctrl-C this step > if all I want is to rebuild the lib, but I would not mind a more elegant

Re: [petsc-dev] error with flags PETSc uses for determining AVX

2021-02-15 Thread Jed Brown
Pierre Jolivet writes: > I’m playing the Devil’s advocate since the beginning, we’ve had a > --enable-generic (off by default) which turns -march=native into > -march=generic for 20+ years (I’m seeing references to PPC7450 and Intel > Coppermine in our configure…). > We turn this flag on when

Re: [petsc-dev] error with flags PETSc uses for determining AVX

2021-02-14 Thread Jed Brown
Jacob Faibussowitsch writes: >> working out dispatch in MatCreate_XXX() instead of for each function. > > Or use compiler extensions for multiversioned functions (I recall GCC has > something similar): > https://clang.llvm.org/docs/AttributeReference.html#target >

Re: [petsc-dev] error with flags PETSc uses for determining AVX

2021-02-14 Thread Jed Brown
Barry Smith writes: >> On Feb 14, 2021, at 12:13 PM, Jed Brown wrote: >> >> Barry Smith writes: >> >>>> This is a reasonable message to print on the screen, but I don’t think >>>> this is a reasonable flag to impose by default. >>>>

Re: [petsc-dev] error with flags PETSc uses for determining AVX

2021-02-14 Thread Jed Brown
Barry Smith writes: >My feeling is 90+% of users don't care about portability, they want to get > fast performance on the machine they are compiling with (or a collection of > machines they have around). This is an exclusionary view of users. PETSc could and would be used in more

Re: [petsc-dev] error with flags PETSc uses for determining AVX

2021-02-14 Thread Jed Brown
Barry Smith writes: >> This is a reasonable message to print on the screen, but I don’t think this >> is a reasonable flag to impose by default. >> You are basically asking all package managers to add a new flag >> (-march=generic) which was previously not needed. > > This is a tough

Re: [petsc-dev] error with flags PETSc uses for determining AVX

2021-02-14 Thread Jed Brown
(yet trivial to implement) option might also be to just alert the >>> user that these flags exist in the usual message about using default >>> optimization flags. Something like this would encourage users to do what >>> Jed is doing: >>> >>> *

Re: [petsc-dev] error with flags PETSc uses for determining AVX

2021-02-13 Thread Jed Brown
er. > > Barry > > I run ./configure --with-debugging=0 and I get none of the stuff added by > Intel for 15+ years? > > >> On Feb 13, 2021, at 11:26 PM, Jed Brown wrote: >> >> Use -march=native or similar. The default target is basic x86_64, which has &

Re: [petsc-dev] error with flags PETSc uses for determining AVX

2021-02-13 Thread Jed Brown
Use -march=native or similar. The default target is basic x86_64, which has only SSE2. Barry Smith writes: > PETSc source has code like defined(__AVX2__) in the source but it does not > seem to be able to find any of these macros (icc or gcc) on the petsc-02 > system > > Are these macros

Re: [VO]:Sobering Energy Stats

2021-02-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
U.S. wind generation sets new daily and hourly records at end of 2020 https://www.renewableenergyworld.com/wind-power/u-s-wind-generation-sets-new-daily-and-hourly-records-at-end-of-2020/ QUOTE: On April 10, 2019, daily electricity generation from wind turbines in the United States (excluding

Re: [petsc-users] SNES-norm is zero all the time

2021-02-03 Thread Jed Brown
Sepideh Kavousi writes: > I am not running an specific example. Attached is my code. and when I wun > with > ./step5.out -snes_monitor -snes_fd_color -ts_monitor -snes_converged_reason > -pc_type lu > > it seems it does not solve anything because the output is like: > > 0 SNES Function

Re: [petsc-users] SNES-norm is zero all the time

2021-02-03 Thread Jed Brown
Sepideh Kavousi writes: > Hello, > I have a very stupid problem that I am really ashamed of asking but it has > been with me for days and I do not know what to do. I want to solve the > Javier stokes equation with finite difference method. Could you run with -snes_monitor

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