[CBLX] pts versus tty ?

[Aldo]

Bonjour à vous tous.

sur mon tout nouveau portable Clevo doté d'Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTS je rencontre la 
bizarrerie suivante:

lorsque je suis en mode utilisateur je suis dans un tty, ce qui est normal,
mais dès que je passe en sudo su (root) je suis non pas sous tty3 ou tty4 mais 
bien en pts/
Es-ce suite à une astuce voir fantaisie de l'installateur ? Es-ce résolvable ? 
Si oui comment ?

J'ai du coup déjà subit l'effet colattéral de cela: en effet les "flags" par 
ex. dans la commande setleds +num d'un script Bash, ne sont pas lisibles / 
interprétables 
et du coup le script échoue (exit): 
es-ce là aussi résolvable ? 

Par avance merci,

Aldo.

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[CBLX] accessibilité figée ...

[Aldo]

Bonjour.

Je souhaite tracer l'origine d'un problème qui me "turlupine": 

pourquoi, sous la nouvelle distrib du nouvel ordi Clevo - récemment reçu par la 
poste - j'ai  Orca  qui se contente d'afficher juste le jour suivit par le
Bouton, mais rien de plus ne s'affiche, et qui plus est je n'ai accès au menu 
en-dessous, où je trouvais auparavant Firefox etc ! 

   Pour l'instant je vois juste par ex.:

   05  Bouton 

Es-ce dû à ma version actu, cad Ubuntu 22.04 qui aurait du mal à supporter
Orca ?
Ou es-ce dû à Gdm ou Lightdm, dont l'un ou l'utre fais de la rétention à
l'entrée sur le bureau graphique ? 

Lorsque j'ouvre un terminal avec ctrl+t, j'entend la voix énoncer, mais le
braille reste figé;
mais bizarremetn j'arrive à lancer Links2 et là j'ai le braille et le vocal
qui suivent nickel.

Coment débroussailler tout cela pour en trouver l'origine ete résoudre ce
problème majeur ?

Par avance merci,

Bàv,

Aldo.


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[dolphin] [Bug 450944] Dolphin git plugin doesn't show the files status badges until you open a new tab

[Aldo Latino]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450944

Aldo Latino  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 CC||aldo.lat...@mailbox.org

--- Comment #2 from Aldo Latino  ---
(In reply to Hosameldin from comment #1)
> > Open a new tab (or split-screen), and see the badge appear again in the 
> > newly opened window and also the related options.
> 
> I think the accurate description is this when opening a new Dolphin window
> and the location happens to be a git folder, it shows the badges normally.
> This could happen whether you open Dolphin from a git folder location, a new
> tab, or a split-screen. When opening Dolphin from a non-git location, the
> issue appears.

In my installation this problem occurs when Dolphin is opened from my home
folder. If Dolphin is opened showing any other folder, I see the badges in a
Git-controlled directory.

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[dolphin] [Bug 483080] Git icons appear only if a new Dolphin tab is opened

[Aldo Latino]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483080

--- Comment #8 from Aldo Latino  ---
(In reply to Nikolai Krasheninnikov from comment #7)
> Cannot reproduce, always works as expected
> Reopen?

If it works correctly in your computer, the problem is in my installation.
So this is not a bug, I think. :-)

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[dolphin] [Bug 483080] Git icons appear only if a new Dolphin tab is opened

[Aldo Latino]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483080

--- Comment #6 from Aldo Latino  ---
Going further in this investigation, I noticed that, if I open Dolphin directly
in a folder different from my home, the green check marks appear regularly. If
I open Dolphin directly in my home directory, they don't appear.

So it's not a matter of what option is chosen in Dolphin preferences. The
situation is that home folder must not be opened immediately when you open
Dolphin.

Steps to reproduce:

1) open Dolphin
2) make sure you have activated the option to open the last directory when you
close Dolphin
3) close all tabs, leaving only a single tab
4) go to your home directory
4) close Dolphin
5) reopen Dolphin (it should be in your home directory)
6) go to a directory under Git control
7) the green check marks are not displayed

Now another test:

1) open Dolphin
2) make sure you have activated the option to open the last directory when you
close Dolphin
3) close all tabs, leaving only a single tab
4) go to any directory different from your home (for example go to Desktop)
5) close Dolphin
6) open Dolphin (it should show your last folder, for example, your Desktop)
7) go to a directory under Git control
8) the green check marks are displayed

This is what happens in my installation.

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[dolphin] [Bug 483080] Git icons appear only if a new Dolphin tab is opened

[Aldo Latino]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483080

--- Comment #4 from Aldo Latino  ---
(In reply to Nikolai Krasheninnikov from comment #3)
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450944 looks same, may also be closed

Sure, it's the same "bug" report.

In the meantime, I found an interesting thing. In Dolphin, if you activate the
option to show your home as starting directory when you open a new instance of
Dolphin, the green check marks don't appear over the files in a directory under
Git control. If you setup another directory (e.g, /home/user/Desktop), the
green check marks appear. And they appear also if you leave active the first
option to remember last opened directory and tabs.

In other words, if in dolphinrc config file we have these options together:
HomeUrl=/home/aldo/any-folder
RememberOpenedTabs=false
the green check marks appear.

If we have this option only without "HomeUrl"
RememberOpenedTabs=false
the green check marks don't appear.

Can you confirm this behavior?

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[dolphin] [Bug 483080] Git icons appear only if a new Dolphin tab is opened

[Aldo Latino]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483080

Aldo Latino  changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Resolution|--- |NOT A BUG
 Status|REPORTED|RESOLVED

--- Comment #2 from Aldo Latino  ---
I close this bug because, after the Nikolai's comment, I tested the plugin in a
brand new installation and it works as expected. So the problem is in another
place, perhaps a conflict with some other setting.

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[Logica-l] Beth Dissertation Prize

[Aldo Figallo-Orellano]

https://www.facebook.com/share/p/pivjrzf8DXedKZdB/?mibextid=oFDknk

Larry Moss:

Do you know someone who wrote a terrific PhD dissertation in topics
relevant to the Beth Dissertation Award?  (See below for the areas covered
by this interdisciplinary prize.)  If so, please tell them about this!

And a thank-you to my friends here who are on the selection committee.

——--
Since 2002, the Association for Logic, Language, and Information (FoLLI)
has been awarding the annual E.W. Beth Dissertation Prize to outstanding
Ph.D. dissertations in Logic, Language, and Information with financial
support of the E.W. Beth Foundation.  Nominations are now invited for the
best dissertation in these areas resulting in a Ph.D. degree awarded in
2023.
——--
Qualifications:

 - A Ph.D. dissertation on a topic concerning Logic, Language, or
Information is eligible for the Beth Dissertation Prize 2024, if the degree
was awarded  between January 1st and December 31st, 2023.
 - There are no restrictions on the nationality, ethnicity, age, gender or
employment status of the author of the nominated dissertation, nor on the
university, academic department or scientific institution formally
conferring the Ph.D. degree, nor on the language in which the dissertation
has originally been written.
 -  In accordance with the aim of the Beth Foundation to continue and
extend the work of the Dutch logician Evert Willem Beth, nominations are
invited of excellent dissertations on topics in the broad remit of ESSLLI,
including current topics in philosophical and mathematical logic, computer
science logic, philosophy of science, philosophy of language, history of
logic, history of the philosophy of science and scientific philosophy in
general, as well as the current theoretical and foundational developments
in information and computation, language, and cognition. Dissertations with
results more broadly impacting various research areas in their
interdisciplinary investigations are especially solicited.
 -  If a nominated dissertation has originally been written in a language
other than English, its dossier should still contain the required 10 page
English abstract, see below. If the committee decides that a nominated
dissertation in a language other than English requires translation to
English for proper evaluation, the committee can transfer its nomination to
the competition in 2025. The English translation must in such cases be
submitted before the deadline of the call for nominations in 2025. The
committee may recommend the Beth Foundation to consider supporting such
nominated dissertations for English translation, upon request by the author
of the dissertation.

The prize consists of:
 - a certificate
 - a donation of 3000 euros, provided by the E.W. Beth Foundation. In case
two dissertations are selected, the prize will be split between the winners.
 - an invitation to submit the dissertation, possibly after revision, for
publication in FoLLI Publications on Logic, Language and Information
(Springer).

Only digital submissions are accepted, without exception. Hard copy
submissions are not allowed. The following documents are to be submitted in
the nomination dossier:
 - The original dissertation in pdf format (ps/doc/rtf etc. not acceptable).
 - A ten-page English abstract of the dissertation, presenting the main
results of each chapter.
 - A letter of nomination from the dissertation supervisor, which concisely
describes the scope and significance of the dissertation, stating when the
degree was officially awarded and the members of the Ph.D. committee.
Nominations should contain the address, phone and email details of the
nominator.
 - Two additional letters of support, including at least one from a referee
not affiliated with the academic institution that awarded the Ph.D. degree,
nor otherwise related to the nominee (e.g. former teachers, supervisors,
co-authors, publishers or relatives) or the dissertation.
 - Self-nominations are not possible.

All pdf documents must be submitted electronically, *as one pdf file*, via
EasyChair by following the link

https://easychair.org/conferences/?conf=beth24

***The deadline is April 30, 2024.***

In case of any problems or questions please contact the chair of the
committee Elaine Pimentel (e.pimen...@ucl.ac.uk).

The prize will be awarded by the chair of the FoLLI board at a ceremony
during the 35th ESSLLI summer school in Leuven, Belgium, 29 July - 9 August
2024.

Beth dissertation prize committee 2024 (more TBA):

Guy Emerson (University of Cambridge)
Chris Fermüller (TU-Wien)
Herman Geuvers (Radboud University Nijmegen)
Erich Grädel (RWTH Aachen University)
Sandra Kiefer (University of Oxford)
Laura Kovacs (TU Wien)
Clemens Kupke (University of Strathclyde)
Larry Moss (Indiana University Bloomington)
Reinhard Muskens (ILLC, University of Amsterdam)
Alberto Naibo (IHPST - Université Paris 1 Panthéon-Sorbonne)
Elaine Pimentel (University College London, 

[Freesurfer] Support for GPU on Freesurfer

[Camargo, Aldo]

External Email - Use Caution

Hi there,

I was wondering if there is support for GPU on FreeSurfer. I really would like 
to use it on GPU because is taking 9 hours per subject to recon-all.

Thanks a lot and have a nice day,

Aldo Camargo
Senior Postdoctoral Fellow at the University of Maryland, Baltimore


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Re: [Logica-l] [OUF!] seis milhões de judeos exterminados durante a segunda guerra mundial

[Aldo Figallo-Orellano]

aldofigallo saiu do grupo

Em sex., 29 de mar. de 2024, 22:26, yuri lumer 
escreveu:

> Eu acho que antissionismo é quase sempre um verniz para o antissemitismo,
> mas isso obviamente não tem relação com críticas a Israel de maneira geral.
>
> A questão é que no debate público deformaram o conceito de sionismo
> atribuindo a ele uma carga pejorativa a priori e alienando completamente
> este conceito de uma representação real para poder se declarar contra os
> judeus sem ser racista.
>
> Tem um vídeo curtinho do prof. Michel Gherman que considero interessante e
> bem didático sobre a multiplicidade do conceito.
>
> https://youtu.be/tl1i9BmIEAM?feature=shared
>
>
> Sei que este é um debate longo e se for procurar, encontrá na Internet
> centenas de artigos dizendo que sim , que não é que depende.
>
> O Guga Chacra escreveu um coluna no Globo onde ele faz uma demarcação que
> me parece fazer sentido e que para efeitos práticos é o que eu adoto.
>
>
> https://oglobo.globo.com/blogs/guga-chacra/post/2024/03/criticas-a-israel-x-antissemitismo.ghtml
>
>
>
> Eu tambem acho a reacao de Israel brutal e preocupante no aspecto
> hunanitario, mas sempre refleti o que deveria ter sido feito. Este artigo
> do David Brooks no NYT me pareceu interessante neste sentido e compartilho
> aqui também para quem tiver interesse .
>
>
>
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/24/opinion/gaza-israel-war.html?unlocked_article_code=1.fU0.E8dH.LoZ_UqS18-_k=nytcore-ios-share=articleShare=m
>
>
>
>
>
> Em qui., 28 de mar. de 2024 15:22, Mayk Alves de Andrade <
> andrade.m...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>> Essa história é muito complexa, então vou me ater a alguns fatos simples.
>>
>> 1. Antissemitismo segue existindo, assim como islamofobia.
>>
>> 2. Somos contra os nazistas não porque eles erram alemães, germânicos ou
>> cristãos, mas porque fizeram atrocidade desumanas.
>>
>> 3. Existe um movimento contra Israel que não está baseado no fato de ser
>> um país judeu, mas sim pelos crimes contra a humanidade que estão
>> cometendo. Ou seja, existe uma diferença enorme entre antissemitismo e
>> antissionismo.
>>
>> 4. Ser contra os crimes de Israel não é equivalente a ser a favor do
>> Hamas. A existência do antissemitismo não justifica a existência do
>> sionismo e vice-versa.
>>
>> 5. A ideia de nação é uma invenção moderna, um mito. O nacionalismo
>> bélico, portanto, nunca é justificável. Misture a ideia de raça, nação e
>> religião em uma disputa de controle territorial ou de mercado e você terá a
>> receita perfeita para o nascimento do fascismo.
>>
>> Abraços.
>>
>> On Thu, 28 Mar 2024 at 14:00 Frode Alfson Bjørdal <
>> bjordal.fr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> «Não é a minha dramaturgia Frode» - Caracterizei o texto que você
>>> vinculou, e supus que foi escrito por você. Não é responsável?
>>>
>>> «se desenvolveu a maior onda de antisemitismo depois da segunda guerra
>>> mundial» - Indubitavelmente, e desenvolveu-se pelas autoridades do Israel.
>>>
>>> https://fb.watch/r5m1HV1nOU/
>>>
>>> torsdag 28. mars 2024 kl. 08:33:35 UTC-3 skrev jyb:
>>>
>>> Não é a minha dramaturgia Frode, é a realidade!
>>> é importante lembrar disso no momento
>>> que depois dos ataques do Hamas a Israel
>>> em particular ligados a um festa brasileira
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5sI6mIBPAc
>>> se desenvolveu a maior onda de antisemitismo depois da segunda guerra
>>> mundial
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbfccVBo9tE
>>> JYB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 7:40 PM Frode Alfson Bjørdal <
>>> bjorda...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Inegavelmente, mas não creio que a sua dramaturgia seja ética, dadas as
>>> circunstâncias dos dias de hoje.
>>>
>>>
>>> Professor emérito em filosofia, Universitetet i Oslo
>>>
>>> Frode Alfson Bjørdal
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2024 at 2:45 PM jean-yves beziau 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> seis milhões de judeus exterminados durante a segunda guerra mundial
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsTQKcHC2qg
>>> les enfants d'israël
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cu2Z-_aAhN8
>>> JYB
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[Logica-l] Re: CFP: REACTS'24 - International Workshop on Reconfigurable Transition Systems, Aveiro, Nov 5, 2024

[Aldo Figallo-Orellano]

==
>
> TBA
>
>
> ==
> PROGRAM COMMITTEE
> ==
>
> Carlos Areces, Universidad Nacional de Córdoba and CONICET (Argentina)
> Luis Soares Barbosa, Universidade Do Minho (Portugal)
> Mario Benevides, Universidade Federal do Rio de Janeiro (Brazil)
> Johan van Benthem, ILLC, University of Amsterdam (The Netherlands) &
> Stanford University (USA)
> Patrick Blackburn, University of Roskilde (Denmark)
> Valentin Cassano, Universidad Nacional de Río Cuarto and CONICET
> (Argentina)
> Madalena Chaves, Centre Inria d'Université Côte d'Azur (France)
> Diana Costa, Universidade de Lisboa (Portugal)
> Stéphane Demri, CNRS, Université Paris-Saclay (France)
> Hans van Ditmarsch, CNRS, University of Toulouse (France)
> Daniel Figueiredo, University of Aveiro (Portugal)
> Sabine Frittella, Université d'Orleans (France)
> Sujata Gosh, Indian Statistical Institute, Chennai (India)
> Andreas Herzig, CNRS, Université Paul Sabatier (France)
> Juha Kontinen, University of Helsinki (Finland)
> Sergio Marcelino, Universidade de Lisboa (Portugal)
> Regivan Santiago, Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Norte (Brazil)
> François Schwarzentruber, ENS Rennes (France)
> Igor Sedlár, Czech Academy of Sciences (Czech Republic)
> Sonja Smets, ILLC, University of Amsterdam (The Netherlands)
> Ionuț Țuțu, Simion Stoilow Institute of Mathematics of the Romanian
> Academy (Romania)
> Fernando R. Velázquez-Quesada, University of Bergen (Norway)
> Fan Yang, Utrecht University (The Netherlands)
>
>
>
> ==
> PUBLICATION
> ==
>
> Accepted regular papers will be published after the Workshop by Springer
> in a volume of Lecture Notes in Computer Science (
> http://www.springer.com/lncs),
> which will collect contributions to some workshops co-located with SEFM
> 2024.
>
> Condition for inclusion in the post-proceedings is that at least one of
> the co-authors has presented the paper at the Workshop.
>
> ==
> IMPORTANT DATES
> ==
>
> Paper submission:  20 august 2024 (AoE)
>
> Author notification: 20 September 2024
>
> Workshop: 5 November 2024
>
>
> ==
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>
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[Logica-l] Re: Becas de Posdoctorado

[Aldo Figallo-Orellano]

Hola!
Dadas las preguntas me enviaron aclaró que las becas no son solo para
lógicos y el deadline es que sigue abajo.

Saludos

Aldo

Yablonowsky Fellowship

Postdoctoral fellowship

The Yablonowsky Postdoctoral Fellowship aims to attract young researchers
in all areas of Mathematics, including Applied Mathematics, Statistics, and
Computer Science who have concluded a doctorate in other institutions of
excellence and recognized in the area, to develop research at IME-USP, for
a period of up to two years. The research grant is funded by the
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Announcement

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El dom, 17 mar 2024 a la(s) 7:20 p.m., Aldo Figallo-Orellano (
aldofiga...@gmail.com) escribió:

> Hola a todes,
>
> Los interesados en aplicar a la beca tienen tiempo hasta el 15 de mayo.
>
> https://www.ime.usp.br/en/yablonowsky-fellowship/
>
> Saludos
>
> Aldo
>
>
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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[Logica-l] Re: XX SLALM - 20th Latin American Symposium on Mathematical Logic

[Aldo Figallo-Orellano]

ch 30 at 23:59 GMT-3 (Uruguay time).
>
> Acceptance or rejection of grant application will be notified by April 15.
>
>
>
>
> VENUE
>
> =
>
>
>
> Information on the venue will be provided soon.
>
>
>
> SCIENTIFIC COMMITTEE
>
> 
>
>
>
> Cristina Brech, Universidade de São Paulo, Brazil
>
> Manuela Busaniche, Universidad Nacional del Litoral, Argentina
>
> Andrés Caicedo, University of Michigan, USA
>
> Xavier Caicedo Ferrer, Universidad de los Andes, Colombia
>
> Russell Miller, University of New York, USA
>
> Lourdes del Carmen González Huesca, Universidad Nacional Autónoma de
> México, México
>
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[dolphin] [Bug 483080] Git icons appear only if a new Dolphin tab is opened

[Aldo Latino]

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[dolphin] [Bug 483080] New: Git icons appear only if a new Dolphin tab is opened

[Aldo Latino]

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=483080

Bug ID: 483080
   Summary: Git icons appear only if a new Dolphin tab is opened
Classification: Applications
   Product: dolphin
   Version: 24.02.0
  Platform: Arch Linux
OS: Linux
Status: REPORTED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: NOR
 Component: plugins: git
  Assignee: sebast...@sebastian-doerner.de
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SUMMARY
When you open a Dolphin window and go inside a directory that is under Git
control, the "green check marks" do not appear over the files icons. In order
to see these "green check marks", you have to open a new tab in the same window
and the green icons (or other icons according to their Git status) appear over
the files.

STEPS TO REPRODUCE
1. In Dolphin activate the Git plugin.
2. Open a new Dolphin window.
3. Go inside a directory that is under Git control.
4. The green check marks (or other Git status marks) are not shown.
5. In the same window open a new tab (press CTRL+T).
6. The green check marks (and other status marks) are now correctly shown.

OBSERVED RESULT
Opening a directory that is under Git control does not show the status of the
files and directories in the repository using the various marks (green checks,
orange up arrow, etc.) according to their status.

EXPECTED RESULT
Opening a directory that is under Git control should show the status of the
various files in the repository.

SOFTWARE/OS VERSIONS
Linux/KDE Plasma: Arch Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 6.0.1
KDE Frameworks Version: 6.0.0
Qt Version: 6.6.2
Graphic platform: X11

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[dolphin] [Bug 447530] Untracked empty folders in a git repo are wrongly shown with the 'up-to-date' icon

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Re: [QGIS-it-user] plugin per le serie temporali di EGMS (Aldo Piombino)

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grazie. 
Abbiamo un miglioramento: il secondo CSV viene creato con i campi giusti ma 
rimane vuoto senza record al suo interno...

piomb

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[CBLX] nmcli et plusieurs utilisateurs

[Aldo]

Bonjour. 

Je voulais savoir si avec nmcli:
a) il y a moyen de voir si une conf a déjà été faite récemment ?
   (je ne vois pas d'option  status  par ex.) ? 
b) et s'il y en a déjà une de conf, via quel outil (en mode graphique par ex.)
   cela a été fait ?
c) ou, si ça n'a aucune importance et qu'on peut de toute façon la
   faire/refaire avec nmcli, sans causer de problèmes 
   (harmonisation de la conf / fichiers communs) ?
d) Enfin, parmi trois utilisateurs, es-ce à l'utilisateur Mon_Revendeur ou
   n'importe, Aldo, Pierre, Paul, ... à faire cette conf avec nmcli ?
   ( sur cet ordi seul Mon_Revendeur et Aldo sont aussi su )

Je cherche à éviter les ennuis mais je suppose que ce type de problèmes est
géré d'une façon ou d'une autre,
c bon de savoir / comprendre comment ?

Merci,
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Re: [QGIS-it-user] plugin per le serie temporali di EGMS (Aldo Piombino)

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rettifica: il file è egms.awk. eccolo
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Description: Binary data


Il giorno 3 mar 2024, alle ore 23:07, Aldo Piombino via QGIS-it-user  ha scritto:Natan, grazie ancora ma ancora non ci siamo…. Ho installato Alacrity perchè Cygwyn è solo per windowspurtroppo ancora niente. il CSV di output è ancora vuoto.al comando gawk -F, -f file.awk EGMS_L2b_022_0819_IW2_VV_2018_2022_1.csv > EGMS_L2b_022_0819_IW2_VV_2018_2022_12.csvMi restituisce questa rispostagawk: file.awk:1: BEGIN{getline; for (i=1;igawk: file.awk:1:                             ^ syntax errorAllego il file egms.awk scritto con txtsaluti piomb
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Re: [QGIS-it-user] plugin per le serie temporali di EGMS (Aldo Piombino)

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Natan, grazie ancora ma ancora non ci siamo…. Ho installato Alacrity perchè Cygwyn è solo per windowspurtroppo ancora niente. il CSV di output è ancora vuoto.al comando gawk -F, -f file.awk EGMS_L2b_022_0819_IW2_VV_2018_2022_1.csv > EGMS_L2b_022_0819_IW2_VV_2018_2022_12.csvMi restituisce questa rispostagawk: file.awk:1: BEGIN{getline; for (i=1;igawk: file.awk:1:                             ^ syntax errorAllego il file egms.awk scritto con txtsaluti piomb
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Re: [QGIS-it-user] plugin per le serie temporali di EGMS (Aldo Piombino)

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purtroppo niente da fare. Ho provato sia con macOS che con ubuntu (su windows non ho neanche capito come istallare GAWK…)Ti allego le prime righe, compresi i campi.In pratica quando lancio gawk gawk -F, -f add_D.awk EGMS_L2b_044_0254_IW1_VV_2018_2022_1.csv > EGMS_L2b_044_0254_IW1_VV_2018_2022_12.csvmi crea il secondo file ma è vuoto.La risposta che mi viene  gawk: fatale: non riesco ad aprire file sorgente `add_D.awk' in lettura: No such file or directorysalutipiombDr. Aldo Piombinoaldo.piomb...@tiscali.itScienzeedintorni: www.aldopiombino.blogspot.it Il giorno 1 mar 2024, alle ore 14:46, Aldo Piombino via QGIS-it-user <qgis-it-user@lists.osgeo.org> ha scritto:Apetta, Natan. Credo di aver capito il problema ma lo vedo stasera o domattina. Poi ti so direIl giorno 1 mar 2024, alle ore 12:18, natanb via QGIS-it-user <qgis-it-user@lists.osgeo.org> ha scritto:Salve!questo è l'header del dbfNORTH,N,24,15	EAST,N,24,15	DN,N,24,15	DE,N,24,15	DISP,N,24,15	D20191204,N,24,15 ..    D20210220,N,24,15se mi mandi le prime tre righe del csv provo a inviarti uno script gawk.natanb pid,mp_type,latitude,longitude,easting,northing,height,height_wgs84,line,pixel,rmse,temporal_coherence,amplitude_dispersion,incidence_angle,track_angle,los_east,los_north,los_up,mean_velocity,mean_velocity_std,acceleration,acceleration_std,seasonality,seasonality_std,20180101,20180107,20180113,20180119,20180125,20180131,20180206,20180218,20180224,20180302,20180308,20180314,20180320,20180326,20180401,20180407,20180413,20180419,20180425,20180501,20180507,20180513,20180519,20180525,20180531,20180606,20180612,20180618,20180630,20180712,20180718,20180724,20180730,20180805,20180811,20180817,20180823,20180829,20180904,20180910,20180916,20180922,20180928,20181004,20181010,20181016,20181022,20181028,20181109,20181115,20181121,20181127,20181203,20181209,20181215,20181221,20181227,20190102,20190108,20190114,20190120,20190126,20190201,20190207,20190213,20190219,20190225,20190303,20190309,20190321,20190327,20190402,20190408,20190414,20190420,20190426,20190502,20190508,20190514,20190520,20190526,20190601,20190607,20190613,20190619,20190625,20190701,20190707,20190713,20190719,20190725,20190731,20190806,20190812,20190818,20190824,20190830,20190905,20190911,20190917,20190923,20191005,20191011,20191017,20191023,20191029,20191104,20191110,20191116,20191122,20191128,20191204,20191210,20191216,20191222,20191228,20200103,20200109,20200115,20200121,20200127,20200202,20200208,20200214,20200220,20200226,20200303,20200309,20200315,20200321,20200402,20200408,20200420,20200426,20200502,20200508,20200514,20200520,20200526,20200601,20200607,20200613,20200619,20200625,20200701,20200707,20200713,20200719,20200725,20200731,20200806,20200812,20200818,20200824,20200830,20200905,20200911,20200917,20200923,20200929,20201005,20201011,20201017,20201023,20201029,20201104,20201110,20201116,20201122,20201128,20201204,20201210,20201216,20201222,20201228,20210103,20210109,20210115,20210121,20210127,20210202,20210208,20210214,20210220,20210226,20210304,20210310,20210316,20210322,20210328,20210403,20210409,20210415,20210421,20210427,20210503,20210509,20210521,20210527,20210602,20210608,20210614,20210620,20210626,20210702,20210708,20210714,20210720,20210726,20210801,20210807,20210813,20210819,20210825,20210831,20210906,20210912,20210918,20210930,20211006,20211012,20211018,20211024,20211030,20211105,2021,2027,20211123,20211129,20211205,20211211,20211217,20211223,20211229,20220110,20220122,20220215,20220227,20220311,20220323,20220404,20220416,20220428,20220510,20220522,20220603,20220627,20220709,20220721,20220802,20220814,20220826,20220907,20220919,20221001,20221013,20221106,20221118,20221130,20221212,20221224
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Re: [QGIS-it-user] plugin per le serie temporali di EGMS (Aldo Piombino)

[Aldo Piombino via QGIS-it-user]

Apetta, Natan. Credo di aver capito il problema ma lo vedo stasera o domattina. 
Poi ti so dire

> Il giorno 1 mar 2024, alle ore 12:18, natanb via QGIS-it-user 
>  ha scritto:
> 
> 
> Salve!
> questo è l'header del dbf
> NORTH,N,24,15 EAST,N,24,15DN,N,24,15  DE,N,24,15  DISP,N,24,15
> D20191204,N,24,15 ..D20210220,N,24,15
> 
> se mi mandi le prime tre righe del csv provo a inviarti uno script gawk.
> 
> natanb
> 
>> Il 01/03/2024 09:03 CET qgis-it-user-requ...@lists.osgeo.org ha scritto:
>> 
>> 
>> Invia le richieste di iscrizione alla lista QGIS-it-user all'indirizzo
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>> Se rispondi a questo messaggio, per favore edita la linea dell'oggetto
>> in modo che sia più utile di un semplice "Re: Contenuti del digest
>> della lista QGIS-it-user..."
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>> Argomenti del Giorno:
>> 
>>   1. Re: plugin per le serie temporali di EGMS (Aldo Piombino)
>>  (Aldo Piombino)
>>   2. Re: plugin per le serie temporali di EGMS (Iacopo Borsi)
>> 
>> 
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Thu, 29 Feb 2024 21:44:41 +0100
>> From: Aldo Piombino 
>> To: Utenti QGIS it 
>> Subject: Re: [QGIS-it-user] plugin per le serie temporali di EGMS
>>  (Aldo Piombino)
>> Message-ID: <1e2f4b3e-564f-4f22-bbc8-550610dd5...@tiscali.it>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> @natanb grazie.
>> Ho usato GAVK ma quando ho provato a ridenomiare i campi del CSV, GAWK mi ha 
>> dato un errore. 
>> 
>> piomb
>> 
>> Dr. Aldo Piombino
>> aldo.piomb...@tiscali.it
>> Scienzeedintorni: www.aldopiombino.blogspot.it 
>> 
>> 
>>> Il giorno 29 feb 2024, alle ore 07:58, natan_b via QGIS-it-user 
>>>  ha scritto:
>>> 
>>> Buongiorno,
>>> 
>>> la prima cosa che mi viene in mente è che potresti cambiare i nomi degli 
>>> attributi e renderli conformi a quelli che si aspetta il plugin  PS Time 
>>> Series.
>>> Se non ricordo male sono del tipo
>>> D30240312. 
>>> 
>>> natanb
>>> 
>>>  Messaggio originale 
>>> Da: qgis-it-user-requ...@lists.osgeo.org
>>> Data: 28/02/24 21:00 (GMT+01:00)
>>> A: qgis-it-user@lists.osgeo.org
>>> Oggetto: Digest di QGIS-it-user, Volume 99, Numero 26
>>> 
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>>> in modo che sia più utile di un semplice "Re: Contenuti del digest
>>> della lista QGIS-it-user..."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Argomenti del Giorno:
>>> 
>>>   1. plugin per le serie temporali di EGMS (Aldo Piombino)
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 12:46:39 +0100
>>> From: Aldo Piombino 
>>> To: Utenti QGIS it 
>>> Subject: [QGIS-it-user] plugin per le serie temporali di EGMS
>>> Message-ID: <7f0c6f68-0f43-48e9-a0f0-ea5e547a7...@tiscali.it>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> 
>>> Buongorno a tutti.
>>> 
>>> Ho scaricato i dati dell?European Ground motion System che vengono resi 
>>> visibili su Qgis tramite file CSV.
>>> A parte che ti danno tutto l?inviluppo comprendente l?area scelta e quindi 
>>> un file che pesa un casino e quindi per visualizzarlo mi ci vuole un bel pò 
>>> (sarebbe simpatico riuscissi a fare un file della sola area di interesse 

Re: [QGIS-it-user] plugin per le serie temporali di EGMS (Aldo Piombino)

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@natanb grazie.
Ho usato GAVK ma quando ho provato a ridenomiare i campi del CSV, GAWK mi ha 
dato un errore. 

piomb

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> Il giorno 29 feb 2024, alle ore 07:58, natan_b via QGIS-it-user 
>  ha scritto:
> 
> Buongiorno,
> 
> la prima cosa che mi viene in mente è che potresti cambiare i nomi degli 
> attributi e renderli conformi a quelli che si aspetta il plugin  PS Time 
> Series.
> Se non ricordo male sono del tipo
> D30240312. 
> 
> natanb
> 
>  Messaggio originale 
> Da: qgis-it-user-requ...@lists.osgeo.org
> Data: 28/02/24 21:00 (GMT+01:00)
> A: qgis-it-user@lists.osgeo.org
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> Subject: [QGIS-it-user] plugin per le serie temporali di EGMS
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> Buongorno a tutti.
> 
> Ho scaricato i dati dell?European Ground motion System che vengono resi 
> visibili su Qgis tramite file CSV.
> A parte che ti danno tutto l?inviluppo comprendente l?area scelta e quindi un 
> file che pesa un casino e quindi per visualizzarlo mi ci vuole un bel pò 
> (sarebbe simpatico riuscissi a fare un file della sola area di interesse ma 
> le mie capacità informatiche sono ?non eccezionali??. ) ho un problema: non 
> sono riuscito a trovare un plugin per leggere le serie temporali
> Sapete se esiste e dove si trova?
> 
> PS: io ho ovviamente il PS Time Series Viewer (al quale ho fatto adattare per 
> forza un fornitore tempo fa ??) e che ovviamente non può funzionare con i 
> campi di EGMS. Ho provato con EO Time series viewer ma anche qui ci sono dei 
> parametri errati.
> 
> saluti
> piomb
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[Qgis-user] time series viewer for EGMS

[Aldo Piombino via QGIS-User]

Hi all,
I have a problem.
I have downloaded some data from the European Ground Motion Service (EGMS). The 
data consist of persistent scatteres and the history of their distance from the 
satellite.
The data are available with a CSV file accompanied by a xml file.

The problem is taht I have not found a time series viewer plugin

Is there someone who knows if this plugs exist?

thanks
Aldo


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[CBLX] gtts-cli, aide

[Aldo]

Bonjour le forum!

Je suis entrain de remettre un ordi sur pied *après un crash sur mon ordi de
travail / disque SSD vieux de 2 ans pile* !

Je réinstalle du coup sur cet ordi de secours mes applis préférées;

mais j'ai un souci avec gtts-cli:

j'ai bien installé python3-gtts et python3-gtts-token
(pas le pack pip ni autre pack snap)
mais ça ne fais que me redonner le prompt lorsque je tente une conversion de
fichier texte ou lui refile un Hello.

Qq'un a-t-il/elle un retour d'experience ?
(distrib = Ubuntu 20.04 LTS,
typescript d'essai en bas du mail) 

Merci, @+ 

Aldo.

# Script started on 2024-02-29 06:15:19+01:00 [TERM="linux" TTY="/dev/tty4" 
COLUMNS="170" LINES="48"]

aldo@mediamonster-HP-ProBook-450-G4:/tmp$ which gtts-cli
/usr/bin/gtts-cli

aldo@mediamonster-HP-ProBook-450-G4:/tmp$ dpkg -l |grep gtts
ii  python3-gtts   2.0.3-1  
   all  Wrapper and CLI utility for the Google TTS 
(Text-to-Speech) API (Python 3)
ii  python3-gtts-token 1.1.3-1  
   all  Calculates a token to run the Google Translate text to 
speech (Python 3)

aldo@mediamonster-HP-ProBook-450-G4:/tmp$ gtts-cli Hello
gtts.tts - WARNING - Unable to get language list: 'NoneType' object is not 
subscriptable
Usage: gtts-cli [OPTIONS] 

Error: Unable to find token seed! Did https://translate.google.com change?

aldo@mediamonster-HP-ProBook-450-G4:/tmp$ gtts-cli "Hello"
gtts.tts - WARNING - Unable to get language list: 'NoneType' object is not 
subscriptable
Usage: gtts-cli [OPTIONS] 

Error: Unable to find token seed! Did https://translate.google.com change?

aldo@mediamonster-HP-ProBook-450-G4:/tmp$ snap find gtts
Aucun snap correspondant à "gtts"

aldo@mediamonster-HP-ProBook-450-G4:/tmp$ 

# Script done on 2024-02-29 06:18:01+01:00 [COMMAND_EXIT_CODE="0"]

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# Script started on 2024-02-29 06:15:19+01:00 [TERM="linux" TTY="/dev/tty4" 
COLUMNS="170" LINES="48"]

aldo@mediamonster-HP-ProBook-450-G4:/tmp$ which gtts-cli
/usr/bin/gtts-cli

aldo@mediamonster-HP-ProBook-450-G4:/tmp$ dpkg -l |grep gtts
ii  python3-gtts   2.0.3-1  
   all  Wrapper and CLI utility for the Google TTS 
(Text-to-Speech) API (Python 3)
ii  python3-gtts-token 1.1.3-1  
   all  Calculates a token to run the Google Translate text to 
speech (Python 3)

aldo@mediamonster-HP-ProBook-450-G4:/tmp$ gtts-cli Hello
gtts.tts - WARNING - Unable to get language list: 'NoneType' object is not 
subscriptable
Usage: gtts-cli [OPTIONS] 

Error: Unable to find token seed! Did https://translate.google.com change?

aldo@mediamonster-HP-ProBook-450-G4:/tmp$ gtts-cli "Hello"
gtts.tts - WARNING - Unable to get language list: 'NoneType' object is not 
subscriptable
Usage: gtts-cli [OPTIONS] 

Error: Unable to find token seed! Did https://translate.google.com change?

aldo@mediamonster-HP-ProBook-450-G4:/tmp$ snap find gtts
Aucun snap correspondant à "gtts"

aldo@mediamonster-HP-ProBook-450-G4:/tmp$ 

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[CBLX] gtts-cli, aide (cf. typescript-with-debug en pj)

[Aldo]

Re moi!

Je renvois une sortie typescript d'essai avec gtts-cli 
mais j'y ai ajouté l'option --debug
pour que vous ayiez + d'éléments!

Merci,
@+
Aldo.
 
Script started on 2024-02-29 07:02:13+01:00 [TERM="linux" TTY="/dev/tty3" 
COLUMNS="170" LINES="48"]
aldo@mediamonster-HP-ProBook-450-G4:/tmp$ gtts-cli "Hello" -l 'en' -o hello.mp3
gtts.tts - WARNING - Unable to get language list: 'NoneType' object is not 
subscriptable
Usage: gtts-cli [OPTIONS] 

Error: Unable to find token seed! Did https://translate.google.com change?
aldo@mediamonster-HP-ProBook-450-G4:/tmp$ gtts-cli --debug
Usage: gtts-cli [OPTIONS] 

Error: Invalid value for "":  or -f/--file  required
aldo@mediamonster-HP-ProBook-450-G4:/tmp$ gtts-cli --debug"Hello" -l 
'en' -o hello.mp3 --debug
gtts - DEBUG - Unable to get language list: 'NoneType' object is not 
subscriptable
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gtts/lang.py", line 36, in tts_langs
langs.update(_fetch_langs())
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gtts/lang.py", line 62, in _fetch_langs
js_path = soup.find(src=re.compile(JS_FILE))['src']
TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not subscriptable

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gtts/cli.py", line 68, in validate_lang
if lang not in tts_langs():
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gtts/lang.py", line 41, in tts_langs
raise RuntimeError("Unable to get language list: %s" % str(e))
RuntimeError: Unable to get language list: 'NoneType' object is not 
subscriptable
gtts.tts - DEBUG - text: Hello
gtts.tts - DEBUG - lang: en
gtts.tts - DEBUG - slow: False
gtts.tts - DEBUG - lang_check: True
gtts.tts - DEBUG - pre_processor_funcs: [, , , ]
gtts.tts - DEBUG - tokenizer_func: , , , ]>
gtts.tts - DEBUG - Unable to get language list: 'NoneType' object is not 
subscriptable
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gtts/lang.py", line 36, in tts_langs
langs.update(_fetch_langs())
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gtts/lang.py", line 62, in _fetch_langs
js_path = soup.find(src=re.compile(JS_FILE))['src']
TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not subscriptable

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gtts/tts.py", line 119, in __init__
langs = tts_langs()
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/gtts/lang.py", line 41, in tts_langs
raise RuntimeError("Unable to get language list: %s" % str(e))
RuntimeError: Unable to get language list: 'NoneType' object is not 
subscriptable
gtts.tts - WARNING - Unable to get language list: 'NoneType' object is not 
subscriptable
gtts.tts - DEBUG - pre-processing: 
gtts.tts - DEBUG - pre-processing: 
gtts.tts - DEBUG - pre-processing: 
gtts.tts - DEBUG - pre-processing: 
gtts.tts - DEBUG - text_parts: 1
Usage: gtts-cli [OPTIONS] 

Error: Unable to find token seed! Did https://translate.google.com change?
aldo@mediamonster-HP-ProBook-450-G4:/tmp$ exit
exit

Script done on 2024-02-29 07:05:47+01:00 [COMMAND_EXIT_CODE="2"]

[QGIS-it-user] plugin per le serie temporali di EGMS

[Aldo Piombino via QGIS-it-user]

Buongorno a tutti.

Ho scaricato i dati dell’European Ground motion System che vengono resi 
visibili su Qgis tramite file CSV.
A parte che ti danno tutto l’inviluppo comprendente l’area scelta e quindi un 
file che pesa un casino e quindi per visualizzarlo mi ci vuole un bel pò 
(sarebbe simpatico riuscissi a fare un file della sola area di interesse ma le 
mie capacità informatiche sono “non eccezionali”…. ) ho un problema: non sono 
riuscito a trovare un plugin per leggere le serie temporali
Sapete se esiste e dove si trova?

PS: io ho ovviamente il PS Time Series Viewer (al quale ho fatto adattare per 
forza un fornitore tempo fa ) e che ovviamente non può funzionare con i campi 
di EGMS. Ho provato con EO Time series viewer ma anche qui ci sono dei 
parametri errati.

saluti
piomb


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[Freesurfer] Temporal lobe mask

[Camargo, Aldo]

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Hi there,

I would like to know where I can find a mask in MNI space for the temporal lobe.

Thanks a lot in advance for your help,

Aldo Camargo

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[Kernel-packages] [Bug 2054297] [NEW] package nvidia-driver-390 390.157-0ubuntu0.22.04.2 failed to install/upgrade: problemi con le dipendenze - lasciato non configurato

[Aldo Sambarino]

Public bug reported:

Ubuntu 22.04.4 LTS

ProblemType: Package
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 22.04
Package: nvidia-driver-390 390.157-0ubuntu0.22.04.2
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 6.5.0-17.17~22.04.1-generic 6.5.8
Uname: Linux 6.5.0-17-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.20.11-0ubuntu82.5
Architecture: amd64
CasperMD5CheckResult: pass
Date: Mon Feb 19 10:16:57 2024
ErrorMessage: problemi con le dipendenze - lasciato non configurato
InstallationDate: Installed on 2022-08-17 (550 days ago)
InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 22.04.1 LTS "Jammy Jellyfish" - Release amd64 
(20220809.1)
Python3Details: /usr/bin/python3.10, Python 3.10.12, python3-minimal, 
3.10.6-1~22.04
PythonDetails: N/A
RelatedPackageVersions:
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SourcePackage: nvidia-graphics-drivers-390
Title: package nvidia-driver-390 390.157-0ubuntu0.22.04.2 failed to 
install/upgrade: problemi con le dipendenze - lasciato non configurato
UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

** Affects: nvidia-graphics-drivers-390 (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
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Status in nvidia-graphics-drivers-390 package in Ubuntu:
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Bug description:
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  ProblemType: Package
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  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 6.5.0-17.17~22.04.1-generic 6.5.8
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Re: [fpc-pascal] Floating point question

[Ern Aldo via fpc-pascal]

Am 16.02.2024 um 08:32 schrieb Florian Kl?mpfl via fpc-pascal:

Am 16.02.2024 um 08:23 schrieb Ern Aldo via fpc-pascal:
Compile-time math needs to be as correct as possible. RUN-time math can 
worry about performance. 
So you are saying when constant propagation is on, an expression should have 
a different result than with constant propagation off? 

Bernd: I don't know exactly, what you mean by constant propagation.
I believe this question is a red herring. In case "constant propagation" is an 
optimization aimed primarily at run-time program code (this is mainly why 
compilers exist) then it doesn't exactly apply to compile-time math, aka 
compile-time execution of non-program code. In other words, compile-time 
execution for the purpose of solving compiler math (not program math) could be 
done entirely without any optimizations at all. If this would preserve 
compiler-math correctness and/or make it match run-time program-math 
correctness then it would yes be worth doing.


James Richters: The result of math when using constants MUST be the same as 
the result of identical math using variables.

Agree.


if the developer explicitly wants reduced precision, then [that's fine].

Agree.


But reduced precision should not come unexpectedly

Agree.

It is possible math is being done differently by the compiler than by programs? 
For math-related source code, the compiler compiles the instructions and writes 
them to the program file for execution at runtime. For compile-time constant 
calculations that produce run-time constant values, one would expect the 
compiler to compile the instructions, execute them during compilation, and 
write the resulting value to the program file for use at runtime. Such 
instructions are discarded, because the program does not need them. If math is 
being compiled differently for program-executed calculations versus 
compiler-executed calculations, then that would be a problem.
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[fpc-pascal] Floating point question

[Ern Aldo via fpc-pascal]

Compile-time math needs to be as correct as possible. RUN-time math can worry 
about performance. The whole point of computer programming is to let the 
machine do the hard work up front.


Regarding optimizations for speed at the expense of mathematical correctness, 
they need to default to Off, and be switchable to ON for compile-time math. 
Runtime math *maybe* could default to On, but since this is a change in 
correctness for program output, it needs to be announced as a much bigger deal 
as far as source-compatibility with existing code.


On 2024-02-13 06:00, fpc-pascal-requ...@lists.freepascal.org wrote:
the compiler math is ... reducing each term of an expression ... and the answer 
is not coming out right.


this would result in less efficient code, since all the math will then be done 
at full precision, which is slower. it is a trade-off between size (=precision) 
and speed.


[in] compile time math, performance doesn't count
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Re: [CBLX] elinks et les liens numérotés...

[Aldo]

Salut Philippe,

et meilleurs voeux à tous.

J'ai surtout comme souci qu'avec Links2 il y a un param qu'on met On pour
avoir les liens numérotés, puis quand on veut sauver ça ne le fais pas: à
chaque relance on a pas la modif dedant.

Aldo. 


On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 07:02:31PM +0100, Philippe Delavalade wrote:
> Salut Aldo et tous.
> 
> Tout d'abord, une très bonne année à tous.
> 
> Aldo, je n'utilise pas elinks mais je me dis que tu as certainement un
> fichier elinks.cfg quelque part et que tu peux peut-être intervenir dedans.
> 
> Bonne chance.
> 
> -- 
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> 
> 
> Le jeudi 18 janvier à 16:06, Aldo a écrit :
> > Hello le forum,
> > 
> > qq'un utilisant le navigateur web elinks, sait-il m'expliquer comment on
> > fixe le param qui consiste à avoir des numéros aux liens ? J'ai beau aller
> > vers le bouton supposé sauver l'option modifiée, rien n'y fais.
> > Sous links2 ça le fais.
> > 
> > Merci,
> > 
> > Aldo. 
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[CBLX] faire taire Orca sous un terminal

[Aldo]

Hello le groupe,

j'utilise principalement les consoles mais voudrais pouvoir utiliser Firefox
en le lançant depuis un terminal, sans la voix intempestive d'Orca: comment
le faire taire, en gardant uniquement le braille ?

Aldo.

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[CBLX] elinks et les liens numérotés...

[Aldo]

Hello le forum,

qq'un utilisant le navigateur web elinks, sait-il m'expliquer comment on
fixe le param qui consiste à avoir des numéros aux liens ? J'ai beau aller
vers le bouton supposé sauver l'option modifiée, rien n'y fais.
Sous links2 ça le fais.

Merci,

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   http://www.mail-archive.com/carrefourblinux@lists.tuxfamily.org/

Re: [Lynx-dev] Lynx access to Cyclos

[Osvaldo La rosa aka Aldo]

Thank you for your advise.
I've once tried long time ago Edbrowse but wasn't able to do anything with it
since it is unfortunately too hard & not intuitive enough.
Maybe I'll try it again but I need some examples of usage and not only a man
page.

Regards,

Osvaldo / Aldo.
 

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 06:06:33AM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> Lynx would need a complete rewrite to support javascript which is why it
> hasn't happened and won't happen.  I don't know your ability with linux,
> but there is a package called edbrowse and it's in the git repository.
> That package does handle some javascript but only the parts that make
> sense for use in terminals.  This has a learning curve to use but may get
> you useable access.
> 
> 
> --
>  Jude 
>  "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo.
>  Please use in that order."
>  Ed Howdershelt 1940.
> 
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2024, Osvaldo La rosa aka Aldo wrote:
> 
> > Hello dear Lynx group,
> >
> > I'm using the Lynx distro binary version 2.9.0dev.5 under Ubuntu Linux OS.
> >
> > I encounter difficulties to access my local LETS (Local Exchange and Trading
> > System help-community) since they recently changed from eLAND then another
> > system to Cyclos.
> > The one and only I can see when surfing to the website is:
> >
> > ###
> >
> >(BUTTON)
> >
> >This application requires JavaScript, but your browser either doesn't 
> > support it or has disabled it.
> >Please, enable JavaScript if possible, or use another browser.
> >
> > ###
> >
> > I experienced for years and years this problem and would like to know
> > - if there is a recent solution to it
> > - if yes why not implementing it or why not implemeent a feature that could
> > be used from within the Linux terminal.
> > (NB: I tried the same site with Links2, it doesn't work too)
> >
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Osvaldo La Rosa  aka  Aldo - Belgium - Europe
> >
> >

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[Lynx-dev] Lynx access to Cyclos

[Osvaldo La rosa aka Aldo]

Hello dear Lynx group,

I'm using the Lynx distro binary version 2.9.0dev.5 under Ubuntu Linux OS.

I encounter difficulties to access my local LETS (Local Exchange and Trading
System help-community) since they recently changed from eLAND then another
system to Cyclos.
The one and only I can see when surfing to the website is: 

###

   (BUTTON)

   This application requires JavaScript, but your browser either doesn't 
support it or has disabled it.
   Please, enable JavaScript if possible, or use another browser.

### 

I experienced for years and years this problem and would like to know
- if there is a recent solution to it
- if yes why not implementing it or why not implemeent a feature that could
be used from within the Linux terminal.
(NB: I tried the same site with Links2, it doesn't work too)

Greetings,

Osvaldo La Rosa  aka  Aldo - Belgium - Europe

Re: [Logica-l] Café com Lógica (12/01/2024): evento em comemoração ao Dia Mundial da Lógica (WLD)

[Aldo Figallo-Orellano]

Oi Rafael,
Obrigado pela resposta. Devo ter ignorado as mensagens.

Abraços

Aldo

Em qua., 10 de jan. de 2024 20:55, Rafael Ongaratto 
escreveu:

> Olá, Aldo. Foi enviado um e-mail para o lógica l por mim no dia 11 de
> dezembro fazendo a chamada, e outra chamada pelo Walter 22 de dezembro.
>
> Abraços, Rafael Ongaratto
>
> Em qua., 10 de jan. de 2024 às 19:23, Aldo Figallo-Orellano <
> aldofiga...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>> Uma pena que não avisaram antes que estava aberto a submissões.
>>
>>
>> Em qua., 10 de jan. de 2024 18:48, Rafael Ongaratto <
>> ongarattor...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>>
>>> Olá, pessoal, em comemoração ao *Dia Mundial da Lógica*, que ocorrerá
>>> 14 de janeiro, o Centro de Lógica, Epistemologia e História da Ciência, da
>>> UNICAMP, promoverá o evento *Café com Lógica* no dia 12 de janeiro. O
>>> evento será transmitido on-line através do canal do CLE
>>> <https://www.youtube.com/@CLE-Unicamp> no Youtube. O caderno de resumos
>>> já está disponível no site: *Café com Lógica
>>> <https://cafecomlogica.my.canva.site/about-pt-br>.*
>>>
>>> Abraços, Rafael Ongaratto e Walter Carnielli
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Re: [Logica-l] Café com Lógica (12/01/2024): evento em comemoração ao Dia Mundial da Lógica (WLD)

[Aldo Figallo-Orellano]

Uma pena que não avisaram antes que estava aberto a submissões.

Em qua., 10 de jan. de 2024 18:48, Rafael Ongaratto 
escreveu:

> Olá, pessoal, em comemoração ao *Dia Mundial da Lógica*, que ocorrerá 14
> de janeiro, o Centro de Lógica, Epistemologia e História da Ciência, da
> UNICAMP, promoverá o evento *Café com Lógica* no dia 12 de janeiro. O
> evento será transmitido on-line através do canal do CLE
>  no Youtube. O caderno de resumos
> já está disponível no site: *Café com Lógica
> .*
>
> Abraços, Rafael Ongaratto e Walter Carnielli
>
> --
> LOGICA-L
> Lista acadêmica brasileira dos profissionais e estudantes da área de
> Lógica 
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Re: [weewx-user] Is WeeWx 5.0 beta stable enough for non-experts to fool around with?

[Aldo B]

Hi,
this would be very interesting to include in the main program, if I 
understand correctly you found a solution to Fine Offset lock-ups?

Il giorno venerdì 24 novembre 2023 alle 22:14:29 UTC+1 Greg from Oz ha 
scritto:


One issue I have is the USB drops sometimes but I have set up monit program 
to check and restart.

ERROR weewx.drivers.fousb: get_observations failed: [Errno 19] No such 
device (it may have been disconnected)


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[jira] [Commented] (CASSANDRA-19178) Cluster upgrade 3.x -> 4.x fails due to IP change

[Aldo (Jira)]

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Aldo commented on CASSANDRA-19178:
--

{quote}One way out may be to add a new node to the cluster that knows about 
cassandra7 and cassandra9 that can "introduce" those nodes to each other once 
it knows about their correct addresses. It may not even need to complete 
bootstrapping for this to happen.
{quote}
Good to know, thanks. To be honest, my 3-nodes scenario is a test environment 
where I'm simulating the 3.x->4.x upgrade. The real production environment is a 
5-nodes scenario, with RF=3. So, given the fact that I can temporarily "accept" 
the quick downtime of 2 nodes out of 5, I can probably:
 # select a seed node X for upgrade: such node will restart, receive a new IP, 
and stay of the cluster until another node will discover its IP and communicate 
with its inbound
 # select another node Y and just restart it (without upgrade) but giving to it 
the full list of all 5 nodes as seeds: in this way Y will resolve the 
hostnames->IP of all the 5 nodes (including X) thus "introducing" X back into 
the cluster, according to your suggestion

I will repeat 1-2 for all the 5 nodes until everything is upgraded to 4.x. 
Moreover, after the first 1-2 steps on the very first node, the next iterations 
of the 1-2 steps can be simplified: maybe I can use your other suggestion 
(nodetool reloadseeds) and perform the step #2 by selecting a Y node of type 
4.x and executing "nodetool reloadseeds".

> Cluster upgrade 3.x -> 4.x fails due to IP change
> -
>
> Key: CASSANDRA-19178
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-19178
> Project: Cassandra
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Cluster/Gossip
>Reporter: Aldo
>Priority: Normal
> Attachments: cassandra7.downgrade.log, cassandra7.log
>
>
> I have a Docker swarm cluster with 3 distinct Cassandra services (named 
> {_}cassandra7{_}, {_}cassandra8{_}, {_}cassandra9{_}) running on 3 different 
> servers. The 3 services are running the version 3.11.16, using the official 
> Cassandra image 3.11.16 on Docker Hub. The first service is configured just 
> with the following environment variables
> {code:java}
> CASSANDRA_LISTEN_ADDRESS="tasks.cassandra7"
> CASSANDRA_SEEDS="tasks.cassandra7,tasks.cassandra9" {code}
> which in turn, at startup, modifies the {_}cassandra.yaml{_}. So for instance 
> the _cassandra.yaml_ for the first service contains the following (and the 
> rest is the image default):
> {code:java}
> # grep tasks /etc/cassandra/cassandra.yaml
>           - seeds: "tasks.cassandra7,tasks.cassandra9"
> listen_address: tasks.cassandra7
> broadcast_address: tasks.cassandra7
> broadcast_rpc_address: tasks.cassandra7 {code}
> Other services (8 and 9) have a similar configuration, obviously with a 
> different {{CASSANDRA_LISTEN_ADDRESS }}(\{{{}tasks.cassandra8}} and 
> {{{}tasks.cassandra9{}}}).
> The cluster is running smoothly and all the nodes are perfectly able to 
> rejoin the cluster whichever event occurs, thanks to the Docker Swarm 
> {{tasks.cassandraXXX}} "hostname": i can kill a Docker container waiting for 
> Docker swarm to restart it, force update it in order to force a restart, 
> scale to 0 and then 1 the service, restart an entire server, turn off and 
> then turn on all the 3 servers. Never found an issue on this.
> I also just completed a full upgrade of the cluster from version 2.2.8 to 
> 3.11.16 (simply upgrading the Docker official image associated with the 
> services) without issues. I was also able, thanks to a 2.2.8 snapshot on each 
> server, to perform a full downgrade to 2.2.8 and back to 3.11.16 again. I 
> finally issued a {{nodetool upgradesstables}} on all nodes, so my SSTables 
> have now the {{me-*}} prefix.
>  
> The problem I'm facing right now is the upgrade from 3.11.16 to 4.x. The 
> procedure that I follow is very simple:
>  # I start from the _cassandra7_ service (which is a seed node)
>  # {{nodetool drain}}
>  # Wait for the {{DRAINING ... DRAINED}} messages to appear in the log
>  # Upgrade the Docker image of _cassandra7_ to the official 4.1.3 version
> The procedure is exactly the same I followed for the upgrade 2.2.8 --> 
> 3.11.16, obviously with a different version at step 4. Unfortunately the 
> upgrade 3.x --> 4.x is not working, the _cassandra7_ service restarts and 
> attempts to communicate with the other seed node ({_}cassandra9{_}) but the 
> log of _cassandra7_ shows the following:
> {code:java}

[jira] [Commented] (CASSANDRA-19178) Cluster upgrade 3.x -> 4.x fails due to IP change

[Aldo (Jira)]

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Aldo commented on CASSANDRA-19178:
--

{quote}Is the seed list on cassandra9 up to date with cassandra7?
{quote}
Is there a way to dynamically update the seed list in a living node? In my 
configuration I have:
 * cassandra 7, just upgraded with 4.x but out-of-the-cluster until it is able 
to properly communicate with other peers
 * cassandra 8, running with 3.x and paired with cassandra 9. Don't know the 
new IP of cassandra7
 * cassandra 9, running with 3.x and paired with cassandra 8. Don't know the 
new IP of cassandra7

If I can trigger some kind of live seed list refresh on cassandra 9 or 8, this 
will result in what you described: cassandra7 will learn the 8 & 9 messaging 
version when they communicate with it. But to do it one between 9 or 8 must be 
triggered in order to use the new cassandra7 IP. "Triggered" to me means "live 
trigger": it's unaccettable to restart another node (8 or 9) when the 7 is 
already out of the cluster. Is it possible? Through JMX or something similar ?

 

> Cluster upgrade 3.x -> 4.x fails due to IP change
> -
>
> Key: CASSANDRA-19178
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-19178
> Project: Cassandra
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Cluster/Gossip
>Reporter: Aldo
>Priority: Normal
> Attachments: cassandra7.downgrade.log, cassandra7.log
>
>
> I have a Docker swarm cluster with 3 distinct Cassandra services (named 
> {_}cassandra7{_}, {_}cassandra8{_}, {_}cassandra9{_}) running on 3 different 
> servers. The 3 services are running the version 3.11.16, using the official 
> Cassandra image 3.11.16 on Docker Hub. The first service is configured just 
> with the following environment variables
> {code:java}
> CASSANDRA_LISTEN_ADDRESS="tasks.cassandra7"
> CASSANDRA_SEEDS="tasks.cassandra7,tasks.cassandra9" {code}
> which in turn, at startup, modifies the {_}cassandra.yaml{_}. So for instance 
> the _cassandra.yaml_ for the first service contains the following (and the 
> rest is the image default):
> {code:java}
> # grep tasks /etc/cassandra/cassandra.yaml
>           - seeds: "tasks.cassandra7,tasks.cassandra9"
> listen_address: tasks.cassandra7
> broadcast_address: tasks.cassandra7
> broadcast_rpc_address: tasks.cassandra7 {code}
> Other services (8 and 9) have a similar configuration, obviously with a 
> different {{CASSANDRA_LISTEN_ADDRESS }}(\{{{}tasks.cassandra8}} and 
> {{{}tasks.cassandra9{}}}).
> The cluster is running smoothly and all the nodes are perfectly able to 
> rejoin the cluster whichever event occurs, thanks to the Docker Swarm 
> {{tasks.cassandraXXX}} "hostname": i can kill a Docker container waiting for 
> Docker swarm to restart it, force update it in order to force a restart, 
> scale to 0 and then 1 the service, restart an entire server, turn off and 
> then turn on all the 3 servers. Never found an issue on this.
> I also just completed a full upgrade of the cluster from version 2.2.8 to 
> 3.11.16 (simply upgrading the Docker official image associated with the 
> services) without issues. I was also able, thanks to a 2.2.8 snapshot on each 
> server, to perform a full downgrade to 2.2.8 and back to 3.11.16 again. I 
> finally issued a {{nodetool upgradesstables}} on all nodes, so my SSTables 
> have now the {{me-*}} prefix.
>  
> The problem I'm facing right now is the upgrade from 3.11.16 to 4.x. The 
> procedure that I follow is very simple:
>  # I start from the _cassandra7_ service (which is a seed node)
>  # {{nodetool drain}}
>  # Wait for the {{DRAINING ... DRAINED}} messages to appear in the log
>  # Upgrade the Docker image of _cassandra7_ to the official 4.1.3 version
> The procedure is exactly the same I followed for the upgrade 2.2.8 --> 
> 3.11.16, obviously with a different version at step 4. Unfortunately the 
> upgrade 3.x --> 4.x is not working, the _cassandra7_ service restarts and 
> attempts to communicate with the other seed node ({_}cassandra9{_}) but the 
> log of _cassandra7_ shows the following:
> {code:java}
> INFO  [Messaging-EventLoop-3-3] 2023-12-06 17:15:04,727 
> OutboundConnectionInitiator.java:390 - Failed to connect to peer 
> tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.196:7000(tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.196:7000)
> io.netty.channel.unix.Errors$NativeIoException: readAddress(..) failed: 
> Connection reset by peer{code}
> The relevant port of the log, related to the missing internode communication, 
> is attached in _cass

[jira] [Commented] (CASSANDRA-19178) Cluster upgrade 3.x -> 4.x fails due to IP change

[Aldo (Jira)]

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Aldo commented on CASSANDRA-19178:
--

Unfortunately the answer is no: cassandra7 just restarted and got a brand new 
IP from Docker Swarm. So there is not way for cassandra9 to contact cassandra7 
by itself. It is cassandra7 that, just restarted, must communicate with 
cassandra9. And according to the code I studied in my last comment above, it 
should work. But it instead, in my environment, the cassandra9 answer is 
completely masked by the connection reset by peer.

> Cluster upgrade 3.x -> 4.x fails due to IP change
> -
>
> Key: CASSANDRA-19178
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-19178
> Project: Cassandra
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Cluster/Gossip
>Reporter: Aldo
>Priority: Normal
> Attachments: cassandra7.downgrade.log, cassandra7.log
>
>
> I have a Docker swarm cluster with 3 distinct Cassandra services (named 
> {_}cassandra7{_}, {_}cassandra8{_}, {_}cassandra9{_}) running on 3 different 
> servers. The 3 services are running the version 3.11.16, using the official 
> Cassandra image 3.11.16 on Docker Hub. The first service is configured just 
> with the following environment variables
> {code:java}
> CASSANDRA_LISTEN_ADDRESS="tasks.cassandra7"
> CASSANDRA_SEEDS="tasks.cassandra7,tasks.cassandra9" {code}
> which in turn, at startup, modifies the {_}cassandra.yaml{_}. So for instance 
> the _cassandra.yaml_ for the first service contains the following (and the 
> rest is the image default):
> {code:java}
> # grep tasks /etc/cassandra/cassandra.yaml
>           - seeds: "tasks.cassandra7,tasks.cassandra9"
> listen_address: tasks.cassandra7
> broadcast_address: tasks.cassandra7
> broadcast_rpc_address: tasks.cassandra7 {code}
> Other services (8 and 9) have a similar configuration, obviously with a 
> different {{CASSANDRA_LISTEN_ADDRESS }}(\{{{}tasks.cassandra8}} and 
> {{{}tasks.cassandra9{}}}).
> The cluster is running smoothly and all the nodes are perfectly able to 
> rejoin the cluster whichever event occurs, thanks to the Docker Swarm 
> {{tasks.cassandraXXX}} "hostname": i can kill a Docker container waiting for 
> Docker swarm to restart it, force update it in order to force a restart, 
> scale to 0 and then 1 the service, restart an entire server, turn off and 
> then turn on all the 3 servers. Never found an issue on this.
> I also just completed a full upgrade of the cluster from version 2.2.8 to 
> 3.11.16 (simply upgrading the Docker official image associated with the 
> services) without issues. I was also able, thanks to a 2.2.8 snapshot on each 
> server, to perform a full downgrade to 2.2.8 and back to 3.11.16 again. I 
> finally issued a {{nodetool upgradesstables}} on all nodes, so my SSTables 
> have now the {{me-*}} prefix.
>  
> The problem I'm facing right now is the upgrade from 3.11.16 to 4.x. The 
> procedure that I follow is very simple:
>  # I start from the _cassandra7_ service (which is a seed node)
>  # {{nodetool drain}}
>  # Wait for the {{DRAINING ... DRAINED}} messages to appear in the log
>  # Upgrade the Docker image of _cassandra7_ to the official 4.1.3 version
> The procedure is exactly the same I followed for the upgrade 2.2.8 --> 
> 3.11.16, obviously with a different version at step 4. Unfortunately the 
> upgrade 3.x --> 4.x is not working, the _cassandra7_ service restarts and 
> attempts to communicate with the other seed node ({_}cassandra9{_}) but the 
> log of _cassandra7_ shows the following:
> {code:java}
> INFO  [Messaging-EventLoop-3-3] 2023-12-06 17:15:04,727 
> OutboundConnectionInitiator.java:390 - Failed to connect to peer 
> tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.196:7000(tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.196:7000)
> io.netty.channel.unix.Errors$NativeIoException: readAddress(..) failed: 
> Connection reset by peer{code}
> The relevant port of the log, related to the missing internode communication, 
> is attached in _cassandra7.log_
> In the log of _cassandra9_ there is nothing after the abovementioned step #4. 
> So only _cassandra7_ is saying something in the logs.
> I tried with multiple versions (4.0.11 but also 4.0.0) but the outcome is 
> always the same. Of course when I follow the steps 1..3, then restore the 3.x 
> snapshot and finally perform the step #4 using the official 3.11.16 version 
> the node 7 restarts correctly and joins the cluster. I attached the relevant 
> part of the log (see {_}cassandra7.downgrade.log{_}) where you can see th

[jira] [Commented] (CASSANDRA-19178) Cluster upgrade 3.x -> 4.x fails due to IP change

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Aldo commented on CASSANDRA-19178:
--

I read carefully the code of _IncomingTcpConnection.java_ (trunk 3.11.16). The 
[receiveMessages|https://github.com/apache/cassandra/blob/681b6ca103d91d940a9fecb8cd812f58dd2490d0/src/java/org/apache/cassandra/net/IncomingTcpConnection.java#L142]
 method seems to do two things:
 # write and flush its current version (11)
 # throw an IOException

The IOException results in the socket to be closed.

On the other side, the caller is busy on the _OutboundConnectionInitiator.java_ 
(trunk 4.1.3). It *for sure* enters the 
[decode|https://github.com/apache/cassandra/blob/2a4cd36475de3eb47207cd88d2d472b876c6816d/src/java/org/apache/cassandra/net/OutboundConnectionInitiator.java#L263C27-L263C27]
 method and proceeds to [line 
267|https://github.com/apache/cassandra/blob/2a4cd36475de3eb47207cd88d2d472b876c6816d/src/java/org/apache/cassandra/net/OutboundConnectionInitiator.java#L267]
 where it *should* decode the message, discover the version 11, print 
{{received second handshake message from peer}} as per [line 
273|https://github.com/apache/cassandra/blob/2a4cd36475de3eb47207cd88d2d472b876c6816d/src/java/org/apache/cassandra/net/OutboundConnectionInitiator.java#L273]
 and then re-contact the peer this time with version 11. But according to my 
log snippet of cassandra7 above, the _OutboundConnectionInitiator.decode()_ 
method instead is unable to execute the code at line 267, which result in an 
exception being thrown and catched at [line 
363|https://github.com/apache/cassandra/blob/2a4cd36475de3eb47207cd88d2d472b876c6816d/src/java/org/apache/cassandra/net/OutboundConnectionInitiator.java#L363].
 From there the 
[exceptionCaught|https://github.com/apache/cassandra/blob/2a4cd36475de3eb47207cd88d2d472b876c6816d/src/java/org/apache/cassandra/net/OutboundConnectionInitiator.java#L368]
 method is invoked and we can see the exception log with {{{}Failed to connect 
to peer ... Connection reset by peer{}}}.

I wonder what is causing this kind of behavior:
 # Is it a good practice, in version 3.11.16, write and flush the correct 
messaging version (11) and then abruptly close the socket?
 # How can the caller (4.1.3) be guaranteed to receive the few bytes indicating 
the correct messaging? In my environment it seems that the socket abruptly 
closed by the other peer is "winning" over such few response bytes.
 # Is there something at netty-level (some kind of System properties) able to 
mitigate such kind of behavior, either in the 4.1.3 node or on the 3.11.16 node?
 # Is it possible that my environment (AWS servers, Docker Swarm) triggered 
something similar to what is documented at [line 
372|https://github.com/apache/cassandra/blob/2a4cd36475de3eb47207cd88d2d472b876c6816d/src/java/org/apache/cassandra/net/OutboundConnectionInitiator.java#L372]?
 The comment relates to {{SslClosedEngineException}} (which is not my case), 
but the reference to {{io.netty.channel.unix.Errors$NativeIoException: 
readAddress(..) }}is matching my logs.

> Cluster upgrade 3.x -> 4.x fails due to IP change
> -
>
> Key: CASSANDRA-19178
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-19178
> Project: Cassandra
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Cluster/Gossip
>Reporter: Aldo
>Priority: Normal
> Attachments: cassandra7.downgrade.log, cassandra7.log
>
>
> I have a Docker swarm cluster with 3 distinct Cassandra services (named 
> {_}cassandra7{_}, {_}cassandra8{_}, {_}cassandra9{_}) running on 3 different 
> servers. The 3 services are running the version 3.11.16, using the official 
> Cassandra image 3.11.16 on Docker Hub. The first service is configured just 
> with the following environment variables
> {code:java}
> CASSANDRA_LISTEN_ADDRESS="tasks.cassandra7"
> CASSANDRA_SEEDS="tasks.cassandra7,tasks.cassandra9" {code}
> which in turn, at startup, modifies the {_}cassandra.yaml{_}. So for instance 
> the _cassandra.yaml_ for the first service contains the following (and the 
> rest is the image default):
> {code:java}
> # grep tasks /etc/cassandra/cassandra.yaml
>           - seeds: "tasks.cassandra7,tasks.cassandra9"
> listen_address: tasks.cassandra7
> broadcast_address: tasks.cassandra7
> broadcast_rpc_address: tasks.cassandra7 {code}
> Other services (8 and 9) have a similar configuration, obviously with a 
> different {{CASSANDRA_LISTEN_ADDRESS }}(\{{{}tasks.cassandra8}} and 
> {{{}tasks.cassandra9{}}}).
> The cluster is running smoothly and all the nodes are perfectly able to 
> rejoin the cluster whichever event occ

[jira] [Updated] (CASSANDRA-19178) Cluster upgrade 3.x -> 4.x fails due to IP change

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Aldo updated CASSANDRA-19178:
-
Summary: Cluster upgrade 3.x -> 4.x fails due to IP change  (was: Cluster 
upgrade 3.x -> 4.x fails with no internode encryption)

> Cluster upgrade 3.x -> 4.x fails due to IP change
> -
>
> Key: CASSANDRA-19178
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-19178
> Project: Cassandra
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Cluster/Gossip
>Reporter: Aldo
>Priority: Normal
> Attachments: cassandra7.downgrade.log, cassandra7.log
>
>
> I have a Docker swarm cluster with 3 distinct Cassandra services (named 
> {_}cassandra7{_}, {_}cassandra8{_}, {_}cassandra9{_}) running on 3 different 
> servers. The 3 services are running the version 3.11.16, using the official 
> Cassandra image 3.11.16 on Docker Hub. The first service is configured just 
> with the following environment variables
> {code:java}
> CASSANDRA_LISTEN_ADDRESS="tasks.cassandra7"
> CASSANDRA_SEEDS="tasks.cassandra7,tasks.cassandra9" {code}
> which in turn, at startup, modifies the {_}cassandra.yaml{_}. So for instance 
> the _cassandra.yaml_ for the first service contains the following (and the 
> rest is the image default):
> {code:java}
> # grep tasks /etc/cassandra/cassandra.yaml
>           - seeds: "tasks.cassandra7,tasks.cassandra9"
> listen_address: tasks.cassandra7
> broadcast_address: tasks.cassandra7
> broadcast_rpc_address: tasks.cassandra7 {code}
> Other services (8 and 9) have a similar configuration, obviously with a 
> different {{CASSANDRA_LISTEN_ADDRESS }}(\{{{}tasks.cassandra8}} and 
> {{{}tasks.cassandra9{}}}).
> The cluster is running smoothly and all the nodes are perfectly able to 
> rejoin the cluster whichever event occurs, thanks to the Docker Swarm 
> {{tasks.cassandraXXX}} "hostname": i can kill a Docker container waiting for 
> Docker swarm to restart it, force update it in order to force a restart, 
> scale to 0 and then 1 the service, restart an entire server, turn off and 
> then turn on all the 3 servers. Never found an issue on this.
> I also just completed a full upgrade of the cluster from version 2.2.8 to 
> 3.11.16 (simply upgrading the Docker official image associated with the 
> services) without issues. I was also able, thanks to a 2.2.8 snapshot on each 
> server, to perform a full downgrade to 2.2.8 and back to 3.11.16 again. I 
> finally issued a {{nodetool upgradesstables}} on all nodes, so my SSTables 
> have now the {{me-*}} prefix.
>  
> The problem I'm facing right now is the upgrade from 3.11.16 to 4.x. The 
> procedure that I follow is very simple:
>  # I start from the _cassandra7_ service (which is a seed node)
>  # {{nodetool drain}}
>  # Wait for the {{DRAINING ... DRAINED}} messages to appear in the log
>  # Upgrade the Docker image of _cassandra7_ to the official 4.1.3 version
> The procedure is exactly the same I followed for the upgrade 2.2.8 --> 
> 3.11.16, obviously with a different version at step 4. Unfortunately the 
> upgrade 3.x --> 4.x is not working, the _cassandra7_ service restarts and 
> attempts to communicate with the other seed node ({_}cassandra9{_}) but the 
> log of _cassandra7_ shows the following:
> {code:java}
> INFO  [Messaging-EventLoop-3-3] 2023-12-06 17:15:04,727 
> OutboundConnectionInitiator.java:390 - Failed to connect to peer 
> tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.196:7000(tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.196:7000)
> io.netty.channel.unix.Errors$NativeIoException: readAddress(..) failed: 
> Connection reset by peer{code}
> The relevant port of the log, related to the missing internode communication, 
> is attached in _cassandra7.log_
> In the log of _cassandra9_ there is nothing after the abovementioned step #4. 
> So only _cassandra7_ is saying something in the logs.
> I tried with multiple versions (4.0.11 but also 4.0.0) but the outcome is 
> always the same. Of course when I follow the steps 1..3, then restore the 3.x 
> snapshot and finally perform the step #4 using the official 3.11.16 version 
> the node 7 restarts correctly and joins the cluster. I attached the relevant 
> part of the log (see {_}cassandra7.downgrade.log{_}) where you can see that 
> node 7 and 9 can communicate.
> I suspect this could be related to the port 7000 now (with Cassandra 4.x) 
> supporting both encrypted and unencrypted traffic. As stated previously I'm 
> using the untouched official Cassandra images so all my cluster, inside the 
> Docker Swarm, is not (and has never been) conf

[jira] [Comment Edited] (CASSANDRA-19178) Cluster upgrade 3.x -> 4.x fails with no internode encryption

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Aldo edited comment on CASSANDRA-19178 at 12/6/23 11:06 PM:


I apologize in advance if reopening is not the correct behavior, please tell me 
if I need to open a new issue. 
I think I've discovered the source cause of the issue, and wonder if it's a bug 
or it's caused by a misconfiguration on my side.
 
Using {{nodetool setlogginglevel org.apache.cassandra TRACE}} on both the 4.x 
upgraded node (cassandra7) and on the running 3.x seed node (cassandra9) I was 
able to isolate the relevant logs:
 
On cassandra7:
 
 
{code:java}
TRACE [Messaging-EventLoop-3-3] 2023-12-06 22:16:56,410 
EndpointMessagingVersions.java:67 - Assuming current protocol version for 
tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.92:7000 
TRACE [Messaging-EventLoop-3-3] 2023-12-06 22:16:56,410 
OutboundConnectionInitiator.java:131 - creating outbound bootstrap to peer: 
(tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.92:7000, tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.92:7000), framing: 
CRC, encryption: unencrypted, requestVersion: 12
TRACE [Messaging-EventLoop-3-3] 2023-12-06 22:16:56,411 
OutboundConnectionInitiator.java:236 - starting handshake with peer 
tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.92:7000(tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.92:7000), msg = 
Initiate(request: 12, min: 10, max: 12, type: URGENT_MESSAGES, framing: true, 
from: tasks.cassandra7/10.0.2.137:7000) 
INFO  [Messaging-EventLoop-3-3] 2023-12-06 22:16:56,412 
OutboundConnectionInitiator.java:390 - Failed to connect to peer 
tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.92:7000(tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.92:7000) 
io.netty.channel.unix.Errors$NativeIoException: readAddress(..) failed: 
Connection reset by peer  {code}
 
On cassandra9:
 
{code:java}
TRACE [ACCEPT-tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.92] 2023-12-06 22:16:56,411 
MessagingService.java:1315 - Connection version 12 from /10.0.2.137
TRACE [MessagingService-Incoming-/10.0.2.137] 2023-12-06 22:16:56,412 
IncomingTcpConnection.java:111 - IOException reading from socket; closing
java.io.IOException: Peer-used messaging version 12 is larger than max 
supported 11
        at 
org.apache.cassandra.net.IncomingTcpConnection.receiveMessages(IncomingTcpConnection.java:153)
        at 
org.apache.cassandra.net.IncomingTcpConnection.run(IncomingTcpConnection.java:98)
TRACE [MessagingService-Incoming-/10.0.2.137] 2023-12-06 22:16:56,412 
IncomingTcpConnection.java:125 - Closing socket 
Socket[addr=/10.0.2.137,port=45680,localport=7000] - isclosed: false {code}
 
So it seems there is a mismatch on this {_}messaging version{_}.

 I'm trying to understand the behaviour of _EndpointMessagingVersions.java_ and 
_OutboundConnectionInitiator.java_ on the 4.1.x trunk and it seems that there 
are few facts:
 # the internal map of _EndpointMessagingVersions_ on the node just restarted 
(cassandra7) for sure doesn't include information about the existing node 
(cassandra9). This because on my network configuration cassandra7 (or more 
precisely the tasks.cassandra7 hostname) changed IP due to the restart. So 
cassandra9 (the 3.x running node) cannot send its messaging version (=11) to 
the newest cassandra7 until the handshake completes.
 # therefore inside _OutboundConnectionInitiator_ the messaging version for the 
cassandra7–> cassandra9 handshake is assumed equal to the current (=12)
 # when the 3.x node (cassandra9) determines the messaging version mismatch it 
throws an IOException and closed the connection
 # the 4.x node (cassandra7) just sees a connection reset by peer and seems not 
capable of downgrade the messaging version and retry the handshake

I can again state that a similar upgrade path, with different involved versions 
(2.2.8 --> to 3.11.16) on the same exact architecture, involving the same 
Docker swarm services, the same IP-changing behaviour, etc... worked like a 
charm. So I think something changed on the source code and breaked that 
behavior when the upgrade is 3.11.16 --> 4.1.3.


was (Author: JIRAUSER303409):
I apologize in advance if reopening is not the correct behavior, please tell me 
if I need to open a new issue. 
I think I've discovered the source cause of the issue, and wonder if it's a bug 
or it's caused by a misconfiguration on my side.
 
Using {{nodetool setlogginglevel org.apache.cassandra TRACE}} on both the 4.x 
upgraded node (cassandra7) and on the running 3.x seed node (cassandra9) I was 
able to isolate the relevant logs:
 
On cassandra7:
 
 
{code:java}
TRACE [Messaging-EventLoop-3-3] 2023-12-06 22:16:56,410 
EndpointMessagingVersions.java:67 - Assuming current protocol version for 
tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.92:7000 
TRACE [Messaging-EventLoop-3-3] 2023-12-06 22:16:56,410 
OutboundConnectionInitiator.java:131 - creating outbound bootstrap to peer: 
(tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.92:7000, tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.92:7000), framing: 
CRC, encryption: unencrypted, requestVersion:

[jira] [Updated] (CASSANDRA-19178) Cluster upgrade 3.x -> 4.x fails with no internode encryption

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Aldo updated CASSANDRA-19178:
-
Resolution: (was: Invalid)
Status: Open  (was: Resolved)

> Cluster upgrade 3.x -> 4.x fails with no internode encryption
> -
>
> Key: CASSANDRA-19178
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-19178
> Project: Cassandra
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Cluster/Gossip
>Reporter: Aldo
>Priority: Normal
> Attachments: cassandra7.downgrade.log, cassandra7.log
>
>
> I have a Docker swarm cluster with 3 distinct Cassandra services (named 
> {_}cassandra7{_}, {_}cassandra8{_}, {_}cassandra9{_}) running on 3 different 
> servers. The 3 services are running the version 3.11.16, using the official 
> Cassandra image 3.11.16 on Docker Hub. The first service is configured just 
> with the following environment variables
> {code:java}
> CASSANDRA_LISTEN_ADDRESS="tasks.cassandra7"
> CASSANDRA_SEEDS="tasks.cassandra7,tasks.cassandra9" {code}
> which in turn, at startup, modifies the {_}cassandra.yaml{_}. So for instance 
> the _cassandra.yaml_ for the first service contains the following (and the 
> rest is the image default):
> {code:java}
> # grep tasks /etc/cassandra/cassandra.yaml
>           - seeds: "tasks.cassandra7,tasks.cassandra9"
> listen_address: tasks.cassandra7
> broadcast_address: tasks.cassandra7
> broadcast_rpc_address: tasks.cassandra7 {code}
> Other services (8 and 9) have a similar configuration, obviously with a 
> different {{CASSANDRA_LISTEN_ADDRESS }}(\{{{}tasks.cassandra8}} and 
> {{{}tasks.cassandra9{}}}).
> The cluster is running smoothly and all the nodes are perfectly able to 
> rejoin the cluster whichever event occurs, thanks to the Docker Swarm 
> {{tasks.cassandraXXX}} "hostname": i can kill a Docker container waiting for 
> Docker swarm to restart it, force update it in order to force a restart, 
> scale to 0 and then 1 the service, restart an entire server, turn off and 
> then turn on all the 3 servers. Never found an issue on this.
> I also just completed a full upgrade of the cluster from version 2.2.8 to 
> 3.11.16 (simply upgrading the Docker official image associated with the 
> services) without issues. I was also able, thanks to a 2.2.8 snapshot on each 
> server, to perform a full downgrade to 2.2.8 and back to 3.11.16 again. I 
> finally issued a {{nodetool upgradesstables}} on all nodes, so my SSTables 
> have now the {{me-*}} prefix.
>  
> The problem I'm facing right now is the upgrade from 3.11.16 to 4.x. The 
> procedure that I follow is very simple:
>  # I start from the _cassandra7_ service (which is a seed node)
>  # {{nodetool drain}}
>  # Wait for the {{DRAINING ... DRAINED}} messages to appear in the log
>  # Upgrade the Docker image of _cassandra7_ to the official 4.1.3 version
> The procedure is exactly the same I followed for the upgrade 2.2.8 --> 
> 3.11.16, obviously with a different version at step 4. Unfortunately the 
> upgrade 3.x --> 4.x is not working, the _cassandra7_ service restarts and 
> attempts to communicate with the other seed node ({_}cassandra9{_}) but the 
> log of _cassandra7_ shows the following:
> {code:java}
> INFO  [Messaging-EventLoop-3-3] 2023-12-06 17:15:04,727 
> OutboundConnectionInitiator.java:390 - Failed to connect to peer 
> tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.196:7000(tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.196:7000)
> io.netty.channel.unix.Errors$NativeIoException: readAddress(..) failed: 
> Connection reset by peer{code}
> The relevant port of the log, related to the missing internode communication, 
> is attached in _cassandra7.log_
> In the log of _cassandra9_ there is nothing after the abovementioned step #4. 
> So only _cassandra7_ is saying something in the logs.
> I tried with multiple versions (4.0.11 but also 4.0.0) but the outcome is 
> always the same. Of course when I follow the steps 1..3, then restore the 3.x 
> snapshot and finally perform the step #4 using the official 3.11.16 version 
> the node 7 restarts correctly and joins the cluster. I attached the relevant 
> part of the log (see {_}cassandra7.downgrade.log{_}) where you can see that 
> node 7 and 9 can communicate.
> I suspect this could be related to the port 7000 now (with Cassandra 4.x) 
> supporting both encrypted and unencrypted traffic. As stated previously I'm 
> using the untouched official Cassandra images so all my cluster, inside the 
> Docker Swarm, is not (and has never been) configured with encryption.
> I can also add 

[jira] [Commented] (CASSANDRA-19178) Cluster upgrade 3.x -> 4.x fails with no internode encryption

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Aldo commented on CASSANDRA-19178:
--

I apologize in advance if reopening is not the correct behavior, please tell me 
if I need to open a new issue. 
I think I've discovered the source cause of the issue, and wonder if it's a bug 
or it's caused by a misconfiguration on my side.
 
Using {{nodetool setlogginglevel org.apache.cassandra TRACE}} on both the 4.x 
upgraded node (cassandra7) and on the running 3.x seed node (cassandra9) I was 
able to isolate the relevant logs:
 
On cassandra7:
 
 
{code:java}
TRACE [Messaging-EventLoop-3-3] 2023-12-06 22:16:56,410 
EndpointMessagingVersions.java:67 - Assuming current protocol version for 
tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.92:7000 
TRACE [Messaging-EventLoop-3-3] 2023-12-06 22:16:56,410 
OutboundConnectionInitiator.java:131 - creating outbound bootstrap to peer: 
(tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.92:7000, tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.92:7000), framing: 
CRC, encryption: unencrypted, requestVersion: 12
TRACE [Messaging-EventLoop-3-3] 2023-12-06 22:16:56,411 
OutboundConnectionInitiator.java:236 - starting handshake with peer 
tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.92:7000(tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.92:7000), msg = 
Initiate(request: 12, min: 10, max: 12, type: URGENT_MESSAGES, framing: true, 
from: tasks.cassandra7/10.0.2.137:7000) 
INFO  [Messaging-EventLoop-3-3] 2023-12-06 22:16:56,412 
OutboundConnectionInitiator.java:390 - Failed to connect to peer 
tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.92:7000(tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.92:7000) 
io.netty.channel.unix.Errors$NativeIoException: readAddress(..) failed: 
Connection reset by peer  {code}
 
On cassandra9:
 
{code:java}
TRACE [ACCEPT-tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.92] 2023-12-06 22:16:56,411 
MessagingService.java:1315 - Connection version 12 from /10.0.2.137
TRACE [MessagingService-Incoming-/10.0.2.137] 2023-12-06 22:16:56,412 
IncomingTcpConnection.java:111 - IOException reading from socket; closing
java.io.IOException: Peer-used messaging version 12 is larger than max 
supported 11
        at 
org.apache.cassandra.net.IncomingTcpConnection.receiveMessages(IncomingTcpConnection.java:153)
        at 
org.apache.cassandra.net.IncomingTcpConnection.run(IncomingTcpConnection.java:98)
TRACE [MessagingService-Incoming-/10.0.2.137] 2023-12-06 22:16:56,412 
IncomingTcpConnection.java:125 - Closing socket 
Socket[addr=/10.0.2.137,port=45680,localport=7000] - isclosed: false {code}
 
So it seems there is a mismatch on this {_}messaging version{_}.
 

> Cluster upgrade 3.x -> 4.x fails with no internode encryption
> -
>
> Key: CASSANDRA-19178
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-19178
> Project: Cassandra
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Cluster/Gossip
>Reporter: Aldo
>Priority: Normal
> Attachments: cassandra7.downgrade.log, cassandra7.log
>
>
> I have a Docker swarm cluster with 3 distinct Cassandra services (named 
> {_}cassandra7{_}, {_}cassandra8{_}, {_}cassandra9{_}) running on 3 different 
> servers. The 3 services are running the version 3.11.16, using the official 
> Cassandra image 3.11.16 on Docker Hub. The first service is configured just 
> with the following environment variables
> {code:java}
> CASSANDRA_LISTEN_ADDRESS="tasks.cassandra7"
> CASSANDRA_SEEDS="tasks.cassandra7,tasks.cassandra9" {code}
> which in turn, at startup, modifies the {_}cassandra.yaml{_}. So for instance 
> the _cassandra.yaml_ for the first service contains the following (and the 
> rest is the image default):
> {code:java}
> # grep tasks /etc/cassandra/cassandra.yaml
>           - seeds: "tasks.cassandra7,tasks.cassandra9"
> listen_address: tasks.cassandra7
> broadcast_address: tasks.cassandra7
> broadcast_rpc_address: tasks.cassandra7 {code}
> Other services (8 and 9) have a similar configuration, obviously with a 
> different {{CASSANDRA_LISTEN_ADDRESS }}(\{{{}tasks.cassandra8}} and 
> {{{}tasks.cassandra9{}}}).
> The cluster is running smoothly and all the nodes are perfectly able to 
> rejoin the cluster whichever event occurs, thanks to the Docker Swarm 
> {{tasks.cassandraXXX}} "hostname": i can kill a Docker container waiting for 
> Docker swarm to restart it, force update it in order to force a restart, 
> scale to 0 and then 1 the service, restart an entire server, turn off and 
> then turn on all the 3 servers. Never found an issue on this.
> I also just completed a full upgrade of the cluster from version 2.2.8 to 
> 3.11.16 (simply upgrading the Docker official image associated with the 
> services) without issues. I was also able, thanks to a 2.2.8 snapshot o

[jira] [Commented] (CASSANDRA-19178) Cluster upgrade 3.x -> 4.x fails with no internode encryption

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Aldo commented on CASSANDRA-19178:
--

Thanks, I moved the question on StackExchange 
[here|https://dba.stackexchange.com/questions/333799/cassandra-cluster-upgrade-3-x-4-x-fails-with-internode-encryption-none].

> Cluster upgrade 3.x -> 4.x fails with no internode encryption
> -
>
> Key: CASSANDRA-19178
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-19178
> Project: Cassandra
>  Issue Type: Bug
>  Components: Cluster/Gossip
>Reporter: Aldo
>Priority: Normal
> Attachments: cassandra7.downgrade.log, cassandra7.log
>
>
> I have a Docker swarm cluster with 3 distinct Cassandra services (named 
> {_}cassandra7{_}, {_}cassandra8{_}, {_}cassandra9{_}) running on 3 different 
> servers. The 3 services are running the version 3.11.16, using the official 
> Cassandra image 3.11.16 on Docker Hub. The first service is configured just 
> with the following environment variables
> {code:java}
> CASSANDRA_LISTEN_ADDRESS="tasks.cassandra7"
> CASSANDRA_SEEDS="tasks.cassandra7,tasks.cassandra9" {code}
> which in turn, at startup, modifies the {_}cassandra.yaml{_}. So for instance 
> the _cassandra.yaml_ for the first service contains the following (and the 
> rest is the image default):
> {code:java}
> # grep tasks /etc/cassandra/cassandra.yaml
>           - seeds: "tasks.cassandra7,tasks.cassandra9"
> listen_address: tasks.cassandra7
> broadcast_address: tasks.cassandra7
> broadcast_rpc_address: tasks.cassandra7 {code}
> Other services (8 and 9) have a similar configuration, obviously with a 
> different {{CASSANDRA_LISTEN_ADDRESS }}(\{{{}tasks.cassandra8}} and 
> {{{}tasks.cassandra9{}}}).
> The cluster is running smoothly and all the nodes are perfectly able to 
> rejoin the cluster whichever event occurs, thanks to the Docker Swarm 
> {{tasks.cassandraXXX}} "hostname": i can kill a Docker container waiting for 
> Docker swarm to restart it, force update it in order to force a restart, 
> scale to 0 and then 1 the service, restart an entire server, turn off and 
> then turn on all the 3 servers. Never found an issue on this.
> I also just completed a full upgrade of the cluster from version 2.2.8 to 
> 3.11.16 (simply upgrading the Docker official image associated with the 
> services) without issues. I was also able, thanks to a 2.2.8 snapshot on each 
> server, to perform a full downgrade to 2.2.8 and back to 3.11.16 again. I 
> finally issued a {{nodetool upgradesstables}} on all nodes, so my SSTables 
> have now the {{me-*}} prefix.
>  
> The problem I'm facing right now is the upgrade from 3.11.16 to 4.x. The 
> procedure that I follow is very simple:
>  # I start from the _cassandra7_ service (which is a seed node)
>  # {{nodetool drain}}
>  # Wait for the {{DRAINING ... DRAINED}} messages to appear in the log
>  # Upgrade the Docker image of _cassandra7_ to the official 4.1.3 version
> The procedure is exactly the same I followed for the upgrade 2.2.8 --> 
> 3.11.16, obviously with a different version at step 4. Unfortunately the 
> upgrade 3.x --> 4.x is not working, the _cassandra7_ service restarts and 
> attempts to communicate with the other seed node ({_}cassandra9{_}) but the 
> log of _cassandra7_ shows the following:
> {code:java}
> INFO  [Messaging-EventLoop-3-3] 2023-12-06 17:15:04,727 
> OutboundConnectionInitiator.java:390 - Failed to connect to peer 
> tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.196:7000(tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.196:7000)
> io.netty.channel.unix.Errors$NativeIoException: readAddress(..) failed: 
> Connection reset by peer{code}
> The relevant port of the log, related to the missing internode communication, 
> is attached in _cassandra7.log_
> In the log of _cassandra9_ there is nothing after the abovementioned step #4. 
> So only _cassandra7_ is saying something in the logs.
> I tried with multiple versions (4.0.11 but also 4.0.0) but the outcome is 
> always the same. Of course when I follow the steps 1..3, then restore the 3.x 
> snapshot and finally perform the step #4 using the official 3.11.16 version 
> the node 7 restarts correctly and joins the cluster. I attached the relevant 
> part of the log (see {_}cassandra7.downgrade.log{_}) where you can see that 
> node 7 and 9 can communicate.
> I suspect this could be related to the port 7000 now (with Cassandra 4.x) 
> supporting both encrypted and unencrypted traffic. As stated previously I'm 
> using the untouched

[jira] [Updated] (CASSANDRA-19178) Cluster upgrade 3.x -> 4.x fails with no internode encryption

[Aldo (Jira)]

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 ]

Aldo updated CASSANDRA-19178:
-
Description: 
I have a Docker swarm cluster with 3 distinct Cassandra services (named 
{_}cassandra7{_}, {_}cassandra8{_}, {_}cassandra9{_}) running on 3 different 
servers. The 3 services are running the version 3.11.16, using the official 
Cassandra image 3.11.16 on Docker Hub. The first service is configured just 
with the following environment variables
{code:java}
CASSANDRA_LISTEN_ADDRESS="tasks.cassandra7"
CASSANDRA_SEEDS="tasks.cassandra7,tasks.cassandra9" {code}
which in turn, at startup, modifies the {_}cassandra.yaml{_}. So for instance 
the _cassandra.yaml_ for the first service contains the following (and the rest 
is the image default):
{code:java}
# grep tasks /etc/cassandra/cassandra.yaml
          - seeds: "tasks.cassandra7,tasks.cassandra9"
listen_address: tasks.cassandra7
broadcast_address: tasks.cassandra7
broadcast_rpc_address: tasks.cassandra7 {code}
Other services (8 and 9) have a similar configuration, obviously with a 
different {{CASSANDRA_LISTEN_ADDRESS }}(\{{{}tasks.cassandra8}} and 
{{{}tasks.cassandra9{}}}).

The cluster is running smoothly and all the nodes are perfectly able to rejoin 
the cluster whichever event occurs, thanks to the Docker Swarm 
{{tasks.cassandraXXX}} "hostname": i can kill a Docker container waiting for 
Docker swarm to restart it, force update it in order to force a restart, scale 
to 0 and then 1 the service, restart an entire server, turn off and then turn 
on all the 3 servers. Never found an issue on this.

I also just completed a full upgrade of the cluster from version 2.2.8 to 
3.11.16 (simply upgrading the Docker official image associated with the 
services) without issues. I was also able, thanks to a 2.2.8 snapshot on each 
server, to perform a full downgrade to 2.2.8 and back to 3.11.16 again. I 
finally issued a {{nodetool upgradesstables}} on all nodes, so my SSTables have 
now the {{me-*}} prefix.

 

The problem I'm facing right now is the upgrade from 3.11.16 to 4.x. The 
procedure that I follow is very simple:
 # I start from the _cassandra7_ service (which is a seed node)
 # {{nodetool drain}}
 # Wait for the {{DRAINING ... DRAINED}} messages to appear in the log
 # Upgrade the Docker image of _cassandra7_ to the official 4.1.3 version

The procedure is exactly the same I followed for the upgrade 2.2.8 --> 3.11.16, 
obviously with a different version at step 4. Unfortunately the upgrade 3.x --> 
4.x is not working, the _cassandra7_ service restarts and attempts to 
communicate with the other seed node ({_}cassandra9{_}) but the log of 
_cassandra7_ shows the following:
{code:java}
INFO  [Messaging-EventLoop-3-3] 2023-12-06 17:15:04,727 
OutboundConnectionInitiator.java:390 - Failed to connect to peer 
tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.196:7000(tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.196:7000)
io.netty.channel.unix.Errors$NativeIoException: readAddress(..) failed: 
Connection reset by peer{code}
The relevant port of the log, related to the missing internode communication, 
is attached in _cassandra7.log_

In the log of _cassandra9_ there is nothing after the abovementioned step #4. 
So only _cassandra7_ is saying something in the logs.

I tried with multiple versions (4.0.11 but also 4.0.0) but the outcome is 
always the same. Of course when I follow the steps 1..3, then restore the 3.x 
snapshot and finally perform the step #4 using the official 3.11.16 version the 
node 7 restarts correctly and joins the cluster. I attached the relevant part 
of the log (see {_}cassandra7.downgrade.log{_}) where you can see that node 7 
and 9 can communicate.

I suspect this could be related to the port 7000 now (with Cassandra 4.x) 
supporting both encrypted and unencrypted traffic. As stated previously I'm 
using the untouched official Cassandra images so all my cluster, inside the 
Docker Swarm, is not (and has never been) configured with encryption.

I can also add the following: if I perform the 4 above steps also for the 
_cassandra9_ and _cassandra8_ services, in the end the cluster works. But this 
is not acceptable, because the cluster is unavailable until I finish the full 
upgrade of all nodes: I need to perform a step-update, one node after the 
other, where only 1 node is temporarily down and the other N-1 stay up.

Any idea on how to further investigate the issue? Thanks

 

  was:
I have a Docker swarm cluster with 3 distinct Cassandra services (named 
{_}cassandra7{_}, {_}cassandra8{_}, {_}cassandra9{_}) running on 3 different 
servers. The 3 services are running the version 3.11.16, using the official 
Cassandra image 3.11.16 on Docker Hub. The first service is configured just 
with the following environment variables
{code:java}
CASSANDRA_LISTEN_ADDRESS="tasks.cassandra7"
CASSANDRA_SEEDS="tasks.cassandra7

[jira] [Created] (CASSANDRA-19178) Cluster upgrade 3.x -> 4.x fails with no internode encryption

[Aldo (Jira)]

Aldo created CASSANDRA-19178:


 Summary: Cluster upgrade 3.x -> 4.x fails with no internode 
encryption
 Key: CASSANDRA-19178
 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CASSANDRA-19178
 Project: Cassandra
  Issue Type: Bug
  Components: Cluster/Gossip
Reporter: Aldo
 Attachments: cassandra7.downgrade.log, cassandra7.log

I have a Docker swarm cluster with 3 distinct Cassandra services (named 
{_}cassandra7{_}, {_}cassandra8{_}, {_}cassandra9{_}) running on 3 different 
servers. The 3 services are running the version 3.11.16, using the official 
Cassandra image 3.11.16 on Docker Hub. The first service is configured just 
with the following environment variables
{code:java}
CASSANDRA_LISTEN_ADDRESS="tasks.cassandra7"
CASSANDRA_SEEDS="tasks.cassandra7,tasks.cassandra9" {code}
which in turn, at startup, modifies the {_}cassandra.yaml{_}. So for instance 
the _cassandra.yaml_ for the first service contains the following (and the rest 
is the image default):
{code:java}
# grep tasks /etc/cassandra/cassandra.yaml
          - seeds: "tasks.cassandra7,tasks.cassandra9"
listen_address: tasks.cassandra7
broadcast_address: tasks.cassandra7
broadcast_rpc_address: tasks.cassandra7 {code}
Other services (8 and 9) have a similar configuration, obviously with a 
different {{CASSANDRA_LISTEN_ADDRESS }}({{{}tasks.cassandra8{}}} and 
{{{}tasks.cassandra9{}}}).

The cluster is running smoothly and all the nodes are perfectly able to rejoin 
the cluster whichever event occurs, thanks to the Docker Swarm 
{{tasks.cassandraXXX}} "hostname": i can kill a Docker container waiting for 
Docker swarm to restart it, force update it in order to force a restart, scale 
to 0 and then 1 the service, restart an entire server, turn off and then turn 
on all the 3 servers. Never found an issue on this.

I also just completed a full upgrade of the cluster from version 2.2.8 to 
3.11.16 (simply upgrading the Docker official image associated with the 
services) without issues. I was also able, thanks to a 2.2.8 snapshot on each 
server, to perform a full downgrade to 2.2.8 and back to 3.11.16 again. I 
finally issued a {{nodetool upgradesstables}} on all nodes, so my SSTables have 
now the {{me-*}} prefix.

 

The problem I'm facing right now is the upgrade from 3.11.16 to 4.x. The 
procedure that I follow is very simple:
 # I start from the _cassandra7_ service (which is a seed node)
 # {{nodetool drain}}
 # Wait for the {{DRAINING ... DRAINED}} messages to appear in the log
 # Upgrade the Docker image of _cassandra7_ to the official 4.1.3 version

The procedure is exactly the same I followed for the upgrade 2.2.8 --> 3.11.16, 
obviously with a different version at step 4. Unfortunately the upgrade 3.x --> 
4.x is not working, the _cassandra7_ service restarts and attempts to 
communicate with the other seed node ({_}cassandra9{_}) but the log of 
_cassandra7_ shows the following:
{code:java}
INFO  [Messaging-EventLoop-3-3] 2023-12-06 17:15:04,727 
OutboundConnectionInitiator.java:390 - Failed to connect to peer 
tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.196:7000(tasks.cassandra9/10.0.2.196:7000)
io.netty.channel.unix.Errors$NativeIoException: readAddress(..) failed: 
Connection reset by peer{code}
The relevant port of the log, related to the missing internode communication, 
is attached in _cassandra7.log_

In the log of _cassandra9_ there is nothing after the abovementioned step #4. 
So only _cassandra7_ is saying something in the logs.

I tried with multiple versions (4.0.11 but also 4.0.0) but the outcome is 
always the same. Of course when I follow the steps 1..3, then restore the 3.x 
snapshot and finally perform the step #4 using the official 3.11.16 version the 
node 7 restarts correctly and joins the cluster. I attached the relevant part 
of the log (see {_}cassandra7.downgrade.log{_}) where you can see that node 7 
and 9 can communicate.

I suspect this could be related to the port 7000 now (with Cassandra 4.x) 
supporting both encrypted and unencrypted traffic. As stated previously I'm 
using the untouched official Cassandra images so all my cluster, inside the 
Docker Swarm, is not (and has never been) configured with encryption.

Any idea on how to further investigate the issue? Thanks



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[it-users] Problemi inserimento campo data che cambia sempre

[Aldo Colamartino]

Ciao,

avevo personalizzato la barra degli strumenti di Writer inserendo il 
pulsante per immettere con un click la data FISSA, cioé la data di quel 
momento, e la mia intenzione quindi é che la data non venga aggirnata 
ogni volta che apro il documento.


Per intenderci, ho messo nella barra degli strumenti il pulsantino con 
l’icona del calendario con il numero “7”.


Ho un file dove scrivo appunti, mettendo ogni giorno la data con quel 
pulsantino: un appunto, la sua data.


Tutto é andato bene fino a fine settembre, ad Ottobre ho aggiornato 
Libre Office e il file si é modificato come segue:


- tutti gli appunti inseriti fino al 24 Settembre hanno la data corretta

- tutti gli appunti inseriti dopo il 24 Settembre hanno la data 
attuale,del momento in cui io apro il documento.



Come faccio a far sí che quel pulsantino con l’icona del “7” faccia quel 
che prima faceva, ossia inserisca la data FISSA?


So che potrei fare inserisci comando di campo → altri campi → data 
fissa, ma io vogli farlo con un click solo, col pulsantino.


Prima funzionava.

Grazie.


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Re: [CBLX] Orca et tkinter de Python

[Aldo]

Bonjour Pierre.

Pour le Français il existe Cicero, projet de Nicolas Pitre (CA), j'ignore où
c'en est au point de vue développement, parcontre je sais que ça tournait
sous Python,
cf. CiceroTTS.

Aldo.


On Wed, Sep 06, 2023 at 07:12:43PM +0200, Pierre ESTREm wrote:
> Bonjour la liste,
> 
> J'écris quelques interfaces avec tkinter et je constate que Orca ne vocalise
> pas ses widgets.
> 
> Je contourne cela en provoquant leurs vocalisations avec espeak (j'utilise
> un dictionnaire type dict()) suite à la capture des évènements souris ou
> clavier).
> 
> Mais connaissez-vous une alternative de lecture en français efficace incluse
> dans un module existant ?
> 
> pierre estrem
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Re: [CBLX] yt-dlp, le retour!!! de problèmes ..... !

[Aldo]

Yoh Jerem,

c sympa comme option, je vais l'ajouter,
mais comme déjà dit j'ai fait un yt-dlp -U en tant que user et ça l'a mis à
jour,
et du coup ça re fonctionne nickel;
j'etais juste un peu étonné de devoir faire ça en étant utilisateur.

Encore merci,

Aldo.

On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 01:59:52PM +0200, Jérémy Prego wrote:
> Bonjour,
> 
> on me souffle dans l'oreillette d'essayer en rajoutant le paramètre
> --geo-bypass dans la commande YTDLP.
> 
> après, peut être nous donner la version de YTDLP utilisé, afin qu'on puisse
> savoir de quel version on parle :) utiliser le paramètre --version.
> 
> Jerem
> Le 24/08/2023 à 13:16, Aldo a écrit :
> > Hello,
> > 
> > qq'un sait-il m'expliquer ce que ces msgs d'erreur signifient, et en passant
> > n'hésitez pas à essayer le lien (c pas récent mais c de la bonne zyc!)
> > 
> > A+ Aldo.
> > 
> > (je met en plus de la sortie des événements mon script basé sur yt-dlp en
> > pj, à toutes fins utiles et si ça peut servir ...)
> > 
> > ###
> > $ which yt-dlp
> > /home/aldo/bin/yt-dlp
> > 
> > $ which yt-dlp_to_mp3
> > /home/aldo/bin/yt-dlp_to_mp3
> > #(mon script perso, cf. pj, qui a tj fonctionné depuis longtemps!)
> > 
> > $ whereis yt-dlp
> > yt-dlp: /usr/bin/yt-dlp /home/aldo/bin/yt-dlp 
> > /usr/share/man/man1/yt-dlp.1.gz
> > 
> > # Essai 1:
> > $ yt-dlp_to_mp3 xqe6TF2y8i4
> > YT-DLP_to_MP3 !
> > Running yt-dlp_to_mp3 http://youtu.be/xqe6TF2y8i4
> > [youtube] Extracting URL: http://youtu.be/xqe6TF2y8i4
> > [youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading webpage
> > WARNING: [youtube] unable to extract initial player 
> > response; please report this issue on  
> > https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/issues?q= , filling out the appropriate 
> > issue template. Confirm you are on the latest version using  yt-dlp -U
> > [youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading android player API JSON
> > [youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading iframe API JS
> > [youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading player 21812a9c
> > [youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading web player API JSON
> > WARNING: [youtube] unable to extract yt initial data; 
> > please report this issue on  https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/issues?q= , 
> > filling out the appropriate issue template. Confirm you are on the latest 
> > version using  yt-dlp -U
> > [youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading initial data API JSON
> > [info] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading 1 format(s): 251
> > ERROR: unable to download video data: HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
> > # Evidemment la suite ne marche pas!...
> > MPlayer 1.3.0 (Debian), built with gcc-9 (C) 2000-2016 MPlayer Team
> > 
> > Playing ./*xqe6TF2y8i4*.mp3.
> > File not found: './*xqe6TF2y8i4*.mp3'
> > Failed to open ./*xqe6TF2y8i4*.mp3.
> > 
> > 
> > Exiting... (End of file)
> > 
> > $ clear
> > 
> > # Essai 2:
> > $ /usr/bin/yt-dlp xqe6TF2y8i4
> > [youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading webpage
> > [youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading android player API JSON
> > [youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading iframe API JS
> > [youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading player 21812a9c
> > [youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading web player API JSON
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/youtube.py", line 
> > 2479, in _decrypt_signature
> >  return func(s)
> >File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/youtube.py", line 
> > 2385, in 
> >  return lambda s: ''.join(s[i] for i in cache_spec)
> >File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/youtube.py", line 
> > 2385, in 
> >  return lambda s: ''.join(s[i] for i in cache_spec)
> > TypeError: string indices must be integers
> > 
> > During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:
> > 
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/common.py", line 
> > 617, in extract
> >  ie_result = self._real_extract(url)
> >File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/youtube.py", line 
> > 3320, in _real_extract
> >  live_broadcast_details, is_live, streaming_data, formats = 
> > self._list_formats(video_id, microformats, video_details, player_responses, 
> > player_url)
> >File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/youtube.py", line 
> > 3239, in _list_formats
> >  formats = list(self._extract_formats(streaming_data, video_id, 
> > player_url, is_live))
> >

Re: [Logica-l] Vitor Greati @ VCLA International Student Awards 2023

[Aldo Figallo-Orellano]

Parabéns para todos os envolvidos incluindo a UFRN






Aldo Figallo Orellano

Department of Mathematics

Institute of Mathematics and Statistics

University of São Paulo (USP), Brazil

https://sites.google.com/view/figallo


El mié, 30 ago 2023 a la(s) 15:19, Marcelo Finger (mfin...@ime.usp.br)
escribió:

> João.
>
> Parabéns a você e ao Vitor por mais essa realização.  E parabéns tb pela
> parceria transatlântica com o Sérgio, que aparentemente funcionou muito bem!
>
> []s
>
>
> Em qua., 30 de ago. de 2023 às 13:55, Joao Marcos 
> escreveu:
>
>> Estou muito orgulhoso de ter orientado Vitor Greati
>> (https://vitorgreati.me/) em sua excelente dissertação de mestrado,
>> "Hilbert-Style Formalism for Two-Dimensional Notions of Consequence":
>> https://www.vcla.at/events/award-ceremony/
>>
>> A dissertação, co-orientada por Sérgio Marcelino, pode ser encontrada
>> aqui:
>> https://repositorio.ufrn.br/handle/123456789/46792
>>
>> Joao Marcos
>>
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[resolved] - Re: [CBLX] yt-dlp, le retour!!! de problèmes ..... !

[Aldo]

Re moi.

Ce qui est fort bizarre, c qu'en tant que root je n'ai réussi à mettre à
jour /usr/bin/yt-dlp
tandis que lors la même mise à jour avec -U de ~/bin/yt-dlp ça a fonctionné
nickel;
et voici même le msg:

Latest version: 2023.07.06, Current version: 2023.02.17
Current Build Hash 
a666e88e7f313bf79bf5df1f7379cf80c2780211c41950f75fba1ddff5b5d6c0
Updating to version 2023.07.06 ...
Updated yt-dlp to version 2023.07.06 

Pourtant je n'etais pas su ou root ! ! !

Aldo.

On Thu, Aug 24, 2023 at 01:16:17PM +0200, Aldo wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> qq'un sait-il m'expliquer ce que ces msgs d'erreur signifient, et en passant
> n'hésitez pas à essayer le lien (c pas récent mais c de la bonne zyc!)
> 
> A+ Aldo.
> 
> (je met en plus de la sortie des événements mon script basé sur yt-dlp en
> pj, à toutes fins utiles et si ça peut servir ...)
> 
> ###
> $ which yt-dlp
> /home/aldo/bin/yt-dlp
> 
> $ which yt-dlp_to_mp3
> /home/aldo/bin/yt-dlp_to_mp3
> #(mon script perso, cf. pj, qui a tj fonctionné depuis longtemps!)
> 
> $ whereis yt-dlp
> yt-dlp: /usr/bin/yt-dlp /home/aldo/bin/yt-dlp /usr/share/man/man1/yt-dlp.1.gz
> 
> # Essai 1:
> $ yt-dlp_to_mp3 xqe6TF2y8i4
> YT-DLP_to_MP3 ! 
>  
> Running yt-dlp_to_mp3 http://youtu.be/xqe6TF2y8i4
>  
> [youtube] Extracting URL: http://youtu.be/xqe6TF2y8i4
> [youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading webpage
> WARNING: [youtube] unable to extract initial player response; 
> please report this issue on  https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/issues?q= , 
> filling out the appropriate issue template. Confirm you are on the latest 
> version using  yt-dlp -U
> [youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading android player API JSON
> [youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading iframe API JS
> [youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading player 21812a9c
> [youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading web player API JSON
> WARNING: [youtube] unable to extract yt initial data; 
> please report this issue on  https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/issues?q= , 
> filling out the appropriate issue template. Confirm you are on the latest 
> version using  yt-dlp -U
> [youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading initial data API JSON
> [info] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading 1 format(s): 251
> ERROR: unable to download video data: HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
> # Evidemment la suite ne marche pas!...
> MPlayer 1.3.0 (Debian), built with gcc-9 (C) 2000-2016 MPlayer Team
> 
> Playing ./*xqe6TF2y8i4*.mp3.
> File not found: './*xqe6TF2y8i4*.mp3'
> Failed to open ./*xqe6TF2y8i4*.mp3.
> 
> 
> Exiting... (End of file)
> 
> $ clear
> 
> # Essai 2: 
> $ /usr/bin/yt-dlp xqe6TF2y8i4
> [youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading webpage
> [youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading android player API JSON
> [youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading iframe API JS
> [youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading player 21812a9c
> [youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading web player API JSON
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/youtube.py", line 
> 2479, in _decrypt_signature
> return func(s)
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/youtube.py", line 
> 2385, in 
> return lambda s: ''.join(s[i] for i in cache_spec)
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/youtube.py", line 
> 2385, in 
> return lambda s: ''.join(s[i] for i in cache_spec)
> TypeError: string indices must be integers
> 
> During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:
> 
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/common.py", line 617, 
> in extract
> ie_result = self._real_extract(url)
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/youtube.py", line 
> 3320, in _real_extract
> live_broadcast_details, is_live, streaming_data, formats = 
> self._list_formats(video_id, microformats, video_details, player_responses, 
> player_url)
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/youtube.py", line 
> 3239, in _list_formats
> formats = list(self._extract_formats(streaming_data, video_id, 
> player_url, is_live))
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/youtube.py", line 
> 3069, in _extract_formats
> signature = self._decrypt_signature(sc['s'][0], video_id, player_url)
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/youtube.py", line 
> 2481, in _decrypt_signature
> raise ExtractorError('Signature extraction failed: ' + 
> traceback.format_exc(), cause=e)
> yt_dlp.utils.ExtractorError: Signature extraction failed: Traceback (most 
> recent call last):
>   File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/youtub

[CBLX] yt-dlp, le retour!!! de problèmes ..... !

[Aldo]

Hello,

qq'un sait-il m'expliquer ce que ces msgs d'erreur signifient, et en passant
n'hésitez pas à essayer le lien (c pas récent mais c de la bonne zyc!)

A+ Aldo.

(je met en plus de la sortie des événements mon script basé sur yt-dlp en
pj, à toutes fins utiles et si ça peut servir ...)

###
$ which yt-dlp
/home/aldo/bin/yt-dlp

$ which yt-dlp_to_mp3
/home/aldo/bin/yt-dlp_to_mp3
#(mon script perso, cf. pj, qui a tj fonctionné depuis longtemps!)

$ whereis yt-dlp
yt-dlp: /usr/bin/yt-dlp /home/aldo/bin/yt-dlp /usr/share/man/man1/yt-dlp.1.gz

# Essai 1:
$ yt-dlp_to_mp3 xqe6TF2y8i4
YT-DLP_to_MP3 ! 
 
Running yt-dlp_to_mp3 http://youtu.be/xqe6TF2y8i4
 
[youtube] Extracting URL: http://youtu.be/xqe6TF2y8i4
[youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading webpage
WARNING: [youtube] unable to extract initial player response; 
please report this issue on  https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/issues?q= , 
filling out the appropriate issue template. Confirm you are on the latest 
version using  yt-dlp -U
[youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading android player API JSON
[youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading iframe API JS
[youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading player 21812a9c
[youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading web player API JSON
WARNING: [youtube] unable to extract yt initial data; 
please report this issue on  https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/issues?q= , 
filling out the appropriate issue template. Confirm you are on the latest 
version using  yt-dlp -U
[youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading initial data API JSON
[info] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading 1 format(s): 251
ERROR: unable to download video data: HTTP Error 403: Forbidden
# Evidemment la suite ne marche pas!...
MPlayer 1.3.0 (Debian), built with gcc-9 (C) 2000-2016 MPlayer Team

Playing ./*xqe6TF2y8i4*.mp3.
File not found: './*xqe6TF2y8i4*.mp3'
Failed to open ./*xqe6TF2y8i4*.mp3.


Exiting... (End of file)

$ clear

# Essai 2: 
$ /usr/bin/yt-dlp xqe6TF2y8i4
[youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading webpage
[youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading android player API JSON
[youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading iframe API JS
[youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading player 21812a9c
[youtube] xqe6TF2y8i4: Downloading web player API JSON
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/youtube.py", line 2479, 
in _decrypt_signature
return func(s)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/youtube.py", line 2385, 
in 
return lambda s: ''.join(s[i] for i in cache_spec)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/youtube.py", line 2385, 
in 
return lambda s: ''.join(s[i] for i in cache_spec)
TypeError: string indices must be integers

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/common.py", line 617, 
in extract
ie_result = self._real_extract(url)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/youtube.py", line 3320, 
in _real_extract
live_broadcast_details, is_live, streaming_data, formats = 
self._list_formats(video_id, microformats, video_details, player_responses, 
player_url)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/youtube.py", line 3239, 
in _list_formats
formats = list(self._extract_formats(streaming_data, video_id, player_url, 
is_live))
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/youtube.py", line 3069, 
in _extract_formats
signature = self._decrypt_signature(sc['s'][0], video_id, player_url)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/youtube.py", line 2481, 
in _decrypt_signature
raise ExtractorError('Signature extraction failed: ' + 
traceback.format_exc(), cause=e)
yt_dlp.utils.ExtractorError: Signature extraction failed: Traceback (most 
recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/youtube.py", line 2479, 
in _decrypt_signature
return func(s)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/youtube.py", line 2385, 
in 
return lambda s: ''.join(s[i] for i in cache_spec)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/extractor/youtube.py", line 2385, 
in 
return lambda s: ''.join(s[i] for i in cache_spec)
TypeError: string indices must be integers
 (caused by TypeError('string indices must be integers')); please report this 
issue on  https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp , filling out the "Broken site" 
issue template properly. Confirm you are on the latest version using  yt-dlp -U

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/YoutubeDL.py", line 1389, in 
wrapper
return func(self, *args, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/yt_dlp/YoutubeDL.py", line 1459, in 
__extract_info
ie_result = ie.e

Re: [CBLX] résolu : podcast en console

[Aldo]

P-e qu'il faut aussi installer pip itself vaec pip install python3-pip
si c pas déjà présent...

Aldo.

On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 02:52:32PM +0200, Didier Spaier wrote:
> Salut
> Sur Slint, comme utilisateur lambda:
> pip install --user rsstail
> installe rsstail dans:
> /home/lambda/.local/bin
> 
> Bonne journée,
> Didier
> 
> Le 09/08/2023 à 14:27, Aldo a écrit :
> > Yoh,
> > 
> > si tu as un autre lecteur rss et que tu peux l'intégrer de façon à ce que ça
> > y ressemble, n'hésites pas!
> > Je vois que ce pack, rsstail, est un pack Python, l'ai donc vu sur PyPi mais
> > pas encore vu de HowTo pour Slackware.
> > 
> > Aldo.
> > 
> > On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 01:08:01PM +0200, Philippe Delavalade wrote:
> >> Re Aldo.
> >>
> >> Désolé mais chez slint/slackware pas de rsstail...
> >>
> >> Je vais essayer de trouver les sources et de compiler moi-même.
> >>
> >> -- 
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Re: [CBLX] résolu : podcast en console

[Aldo]

Yoh,

si tu as un autre lecteur rss et que tu peux l'intégrer de façon à ce que ça
y ressemble, n'hésites pas!
Je vois que ce pack, rsstail, est un pack Python, l'ai donc vu sur PyPi mais
pas encore vu de HowTo pour Slackware.

Aldo.

On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 01:08:01PM +0200, Philippe Delavalade wrote:
> Re Aldo.
> 
> Désolé mais chez slint/slackware pas de rsstail...
> 
> Je vais essayer de trouver les sources et de compiler moi-même.
> 
> -- 
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> 
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Re: [CBLX] résolu : podcast en console

[Aldo]

Re hello Philippe,

j'ai déjà fait un script rss.frmusique.aucoeurdelorchestre.pod que je colle ici 
en pj.

Pour que ça tourne nickel:
cp le fichier dans ~/bin/ ou ton /usr/local/bin/ ou l'endroit où tu déposes 
d'hab les scripts maison/perso ou pour tous les users,
vérifier qu'il soit bien en mode chmod +x (exécutable),
et voir que les applis quivantes soient bien présentes:
lynx  rsstail  wget  txt2html  mplayer ou un lecteur "clickable" depuis lynx
Et c tout!

Je l'ai mis sur 42 épisodes cad le maximum actu dispo,
et j'ai bien testé: sur mon ordi ça fonctionne !

Aldo.

(rss.frmusique.aucoeurdelorchestre.pod en pj)
 

On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 11:58:42AM +0200, Philippe Delavalade wrote:
> Salut Aldo.
> 
> L'url était dans le message d'origine mais la voici :
> 
> https://www.radiofrance.fr/francemusique/podcasts/au-coeur-de-l-orchestre/orchestrations-transcriptions-arrangements-2-4-du-clavier-a-l-orchestre-ii-8460841
> 
> Depuis, grâce à lynx j'ai récupéré les url des autres émissions de la série
> et je les ai téléchargées avec yt-dlp ; c'est vrai que ce sont des adresses
> très longues mais bon...
> 
> Merci pour le script dans l'autre message ; je l'essaierai à l'occasion.
> 
> -- 
> Philippe
> 
> Le mercredi 09 août à 11:21, Aldo a écrit :
> > Yooh Philippe,
> > 
> > ah ça je le savais pas; parcontre si tu n'as pas l'url du podcast qui bien
> > souvenet est hyper longue, là c + compliqué de la refiler à yt-dlp,
> > pour Radio France les podcasts sont sur  un serveur autre que france**.com
> > 
> > Du coup, as-tu un exemple d'URL d'émission à podcaster via yt-dlp ?
> > 
> > Aldo.
> > 
> > On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 02:36:59PM +0200, Philippe Delavalade wrote:
> > > Bonjour tout le monde.
> > > 
> > > J'ai eu une réponse en privé.
> > > 
> > > Ça fonctionne parfaitement avec :
> > > yt-dlp mon_url
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Philippe
> > > 
> > > Le jeudi 03 août à 19:03, Philippe Delavalade a écrit :
> > > > Bonjour.
> > > > 
> > > > Un ami m'a passé une adresse de podcast sur France-Musique mais je ne 
> > > > sais
> > > > pas comment l'écouter... Avec lynx j'arrive sur une page web mais là 
> > > > rien
> > > > ne fonctione.
> > > > 
> > > > Quelqu'un aurait-il un outil à me conseiller ?
> > > > 
> > > > À tout hasard voici l'url en question :
> > > > 
> > > > https://www.radiofrance.fr/francemusique/podcasts/au-coeur-de-l-orchestre/orchestrations-transcriptions-arrangements-2-4-du-clavier-a-l-orchestre-ii-8460841
> > > > 
> > > > Merci d'avnace.
> > > > 
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Re: [CBLX] résolu : podcast en console

[Aldo]

Merci pour l'url.

En fait, pour revenir sur le script:
- il rapatrie le ficheir rss_*.xml de frculture ou frinter ou autre,
il t'affiche ensuite dans lynx la page avec les titres des podcasts, qui
présente l'emission, durée et description;
puis lorsque tu fais q il t'ouvre une seconde page et là tu n'as plus que
les liens vers les fichiers mp3 l'un en dessous de l'autre,
et là soit tu fais ENTER pour écouter le podcast, soit tu fais d pour
télécharger le fichier (si tu juges l'émission/podcast super intéressant).
Tu fais q pour refermer le script.

Avant de me bricoler ces scripts j'avais jadis utilisé bashpodder, mais mon
disque dur était rempli en une semaine car là il s'agit de s'abonner au
podcast; tu fais ça avec cinq six podcast et ton disque dur déborde :-)
Bref pas un bon systme pour moi, du coup ici tu vois et tu fais ce que tu
veux, mais surtout je ne dois jamais, une fois le script fait, entrer la
moindre url, vu qu'il va t'afficher totu seul les titres des nouveaux
podcasts dispo, et puis des mp3 sur la page suivante, que tu reconnais au
numéro identique que sur la 1re page.

(Je reconnais que c un peu de la bricole Aldozienne, mais poru fonctionner
ça fonctionne;
seul hiq, si tu choisis dans la conf du script de mettre 20 podcasts à
lister alors qu'il n'y en a que 2 de dispo car nouvelle émission, là ça
crashe! Mais l'erreur est due à rsstail et pas à mon script, cf. doc de
rsstail).

Aldo.
  
On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 11:58:42AM +0200, Philippe Delavalade wrote:
> Salut Aldo.
> 
> L'url était dans le message d'origine mais la voici :
> 
> https://www.radiofrance.fr/francemusique/podcasts/au-coeur-de-l-orchestre/orchestrations-transcriptions-arrangements-2-4-du-clavier-a-l-orchestre-ii-8460841
> 
> Depuis, grâce à lynx j'ai récupéré les url des autres émissions de la série
> et je les ai téléchargées avec yt-dlp ; c'est vrai que ce sont des adresses
> très longues mais bon...
> 
> Merci pour le script dans l'autre message ; je l'essaierai à l'occasion.
> 
> -- 
> Philippe
> 
> Le mercredi 09 août à 11:21, Aldo a écrit :
> > Yooh Philippe,
> > 
> > ah ça je le savais pas; parcontre si tu n'as pas l'url du podcast qui bien
> > souvenet est hyper longue, là c + compliqué de la refiler à yt-dlp,
> > pour Radio France les podcasts sont sur  un serveur autre que france**.com
> > 
> > Du coup, as-tu un exemple d'URL d'émission à podcaster via yt-dlp ?
> > 
> > Aldo.
> > 
> > On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 02:36:59PM +0200, Philippe Delavalade wrote:
> > > Bonjour tout le monde.
> > > 
> > > J'ai eu une réponse en privé.
> > > 
> > > Ça fonctionne parfaitement avec :
> > > yt-dlp mon_url
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Philippe
> > > 
> > > Le jeudi 03 août à 19:03, Philippe Delavalade a écrit :
> > > > Bonjour.
> > > > 
> > > > Un ami m'a passé une adresse de podcast sur France-Musique mais je ne 
> > > > sais
> > > > pas comment l'écouter... Avec lynx j'arrive sur une page web mais là 
> > > > rien
> > > > ne fonctione.
> > > > 
> > > > Quelqu'un aurait-il un outil à me conseiller ?
> > > > 
> > > > À tout hasard voici l'url en question :
> > > > 
> > > > https://www.radiofrance.fr/francemusique/podcasts/au-coeur-de-l-orchestre/orchestrations-transcriptions-arrangements-2-4-du-clavier-a-l-orchestre-ii-8460841
> > > > 
> > > > Merci d'avnace.
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
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Re: [CBLX] résolu : podcast en console

[Aldo]

Yooh Philippe,

ah ça je le savais pas; parcontre si tu n'as pas l'url du podcast qui bien
souvenet est hyper longue, là c + compliqué de la refiler à yt-dlp,
pour Radio France les podcasts sont sur  un serveur autre que france**.com

Du coup, as-tu un exemple d'URL d'émission à podcaster via yt-dlp ?

Aldo.

On Sat, Aug 05, 2023 at 02:36:59PM +0200, Philippe Delavalade wrote:
> Bonjour tout le monde.
> 
> J'ai eu une réponse en privé.
> 
> Ça fonctionne parfaitement avec :
> yt-dlp mon_url
> 
> -- 
> Philippe
> 
> Le jeudi 03 août à 19:03, Philippe Delavalade a écrit :
> > Bonjour.
> > 
> > Un ami m'a passé une adresse de podcast sur France-Musique mais je ne sais
> > pas comment l'écouter... Avec lynx j'arrive sur une page web mais là rien
> > ne fonctione.
> > 
> > Quelqu'un aurait-il un outil à me conseiller ?
> > 
> > À tout hasard voici l'url en question :
> > 
> > https://www.radiofrance.fr/francemusique/podcasts/au-coeur-de-l-orchestre/orchestrations-transcriptions-arrangements-2-4-du-clavier-a-l-orchestre-ii-8460841
> > 
> > Merci d'avnace.
> > 
> > -- 
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Re: [CBLX] podcast en cole

[Aldo]

Bonjour Philippe.

J'ai de quoi te secourir:
j'ai créé mes propres scripts rss.frinter.*.pod et rss.frculture.*.pod,
ddonc pourquoi pas rss.frmusique.*.pod qui te permettent d'utilisere rsstail
et lynx pour ne pas t'abonner à un podcast mais pouvoir lire la liste quand
tu le souhaite, puis dans une sous-page télécharger le programme et
l'écouter en cliquant dessus avec lynx.
Je te mets le dernier script que je viens de realiser, à toi de t'en
inspirer, modifier et essayer;
sinon tu me donnes le nom de l'émission et je te trouve le lien rss pour ce
podcast /+ et me ferai un plaisir de t'envoyer le script prêt à
l'utilisation!

Aldo.

(en pj le rss de France Culture, émission La Science CQFD)


On Thu, Aug 03, 2023 at 07:03:16PM +0200, Philippe Delavalade wrote:
> Bonjour.
> 
> Un ami m'a passé une adresse de podcast sur France-Musique mais je ne sais
> pas comment l'écouter... Avec lynx j'arrive sur une page web mais là rien
> ne fonctione.
> 
> Quelqu'un aurait-il un outil à me conseiller ?
> 
> À tout hasard voici l'url en question :
> 
> https://www.radiofrance.fr/francemusique/podcasts/au-coeur-de-l-orchestre/orchestrations-transcriptions-arrangements-2-4-du-clavier-a-l-orchestre-ii-8460841
> 
> Merci d'avnace.
> 
> -- 
> Philippe

#!/bin/bash
# RaSTa - RsSTail Add-on script

#

# Vars:
NNN="14312"
URL="http://radiofrance-podcast.net/podcast09/rss_$NNN.xml; # URL var
XXX_YY="frculture.lasciencecqfd" # name.subname var
NR="158" # number of items/+links var

# Get rss function:
function getrss ()
{
#clear && echo "Monitoring RSS feeds (CTRL+C to abort):" && echo "   Retrieving 
RSS feed $URL" && rsstail -dl -u $URL |tee -a /tmp/rss.$XXX_YY.pod.url
clear && rsstail -n $NR -l -d -u $URL |tee -a /tmp/rss.$XXX_YY.pod.url
cd /tmp
wget -c $URL
cd -
}

# Access all listed links directly by web:
function webxs ()
{
clear
cd /tmp/
sleep 1
echo "
   http://radiofrance-podcast.net/podcast09/rss_$NNN.xml; 
>>/tmp/rss.$XXX_YY.pod.url
txt2html ./rss.$XXX_YY.pod.url >/tmp/rss.$XXX_YY.pod.html
lynx ./rss.$XXX_YY.pod.html
cd -
}

# Pod-urls (mp3) access: 
function podxs ()
{
clear
cd /tmp/
/bin/grep .mp3 /tmp/rss_$NNN.xml |grep url= >/tmp/pod.url
#/bin/grep ITEMA /tmp/rss_14934.xml >/tmp/pod.url
#/bin/grep n_14934 /tmp/rss_14934.xml >/tmp/pod.url
#txt2html ./rss.$XXX_YY.pod.url >/tmp/rss.$XXX_YY.pod.html
txt2html /tmp/pod.url >/tmp/pod.html
clear
#sleep 1
lynx -force_html /tmp/pod.html
cd -
}

#

# Running!!!

# Get rss titles ... and test ... 
rm -f /tmp/rss*$XXX_YY.*od.url # remove old one
rm -f /tmp/rss_*.xml # remove old one
rm -f /tmp/*od.ur* # remove old one
rm -f /tmp/*od.ht* # remove old one
getrss & # put in background
while (true); do
   count=`grep "Link:" /tmp/rss.$XXX_YY.pod.url | wc -l`
   if [ $count == $NR ]; then 
   echo " 
   "; break; fi
done
killall rsstail

# Run web-access + pod-access function ...
webxs
clear
podxs

# Exit! 
clear
exit

Re: [CBLX] Cherche mini distro accessible

[Aldo]

Salut Christophe.

J'espère qu'entretemps tu as trouvé ton bonheur/une mini distro de secours,
mais je voulais juste compléter ton info: il fut un temps où j'utilisais
pour toute récup ou manip la distro de Klaus Knopper, Knoppix, cf.
http://knoppix.net/
dont l'avantage était que tu n'as pas besoin de l'installer: juste graver un
CD/DVD, booter, créere les points de mountage, par ex. sous /mnt/
relier ton ddur à un disque externe ou clé USB, faire le boulot et puis
poweroff ! 
A l'époque la distro était basée sur les packs .deb, mais ça fais trop
longtemps que je n'ai plus suivit son évolution, mais je pense qu'une distro
dite "live" est le meilleur moyen de faire des travaux de type chirurgical!
:-)

Aldo.

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> Bonjour tous,
> 
> 
> Je cherche un petit linux à graver sur clé USB pour faire de la récup de
> système en cas de gros crash. En fait, j'en ai eu un avec l'outil de récup
> que je viens d'acheter. Mais vu qu'il n'embarque pas BRLTTY, compliqué de
> prendre la main dessus. Par contre, j'ai de la doc pour installer l'outil de
> récup système sur n'importe quelle distro linux. J'en cherche donc une qui
> tiendrait sur clé USB, tout en embarquant BRLTTY, voire qui saurait démarrer
> BRLTTY au boot.
> 
> 
> Merci infiniment. Bonne journée. @+ ChD
> 
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Re: [CBLX] transferwee et youtube-dl

[Aldo]

Yoh Jerem,

j'ai plutôt pris l'optio nde suivre Didier et Nicolas car ça recommence à
chaque fois les soucis avec youtube-dl, y compris, justement, avec les
binaires de yt-dl.org;
j'ai même dû régresser et prendre un bin plus ancien pour qu'il tourne sous
ma distrib.
Alors avec yt-dlp ça reprend vie et c bcp + rapide, dumoins via le script
que j'ai concocté.
Parcontre je prend le pack de ma distrib.

Aldo.


On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 11:36:42AM +0200, Jérémy Prego wrote:
> Bonjour,
> 
> je pense que pour un utilitaire comme ça, il ne faut pas s'embêter avec un
> paquet fourni par la distrib. perso j'ai télécharger le binaire sur le site
> du projet, et on peut le mettre à jour avec l'option -U et il est
> complètement indépendant. pour l'avoir dans son path il suffit de le mettre
> dans un des dossiers du path ou alors ajouter un dossier au path.
> 
> et pour la nostalgie, j'ai même fait un alias de youtube-dl, vu que se sont
> les mêmes commandes
> 
> Jerem
> 
> Le 21/06/2023 à 11:12, Didier Spaier a écrit :
> > J'ajoute que yt-dlp est non-seulement pérenne mais aussi très activement
> > développé. Le dernière version vent d'être publiée ce jour :)
> > https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/tags
> > 
> > Il n'y a vraiment plus aucune raison d'utiliser youtube-dl, sauf peut-être 
> > un
> > attachement sentimental ;)
> > 
> > S'il la version de yt-lp fournie par ta distribution devient trop ancienne 
> > tu
> > peux peut-être demander au mainteneur de ce paquet pour elle de le mettre à
> > jour, à moins qu'un outil de la dite te permette de re-construire le paquet
> > toi-même.
> > 
> > Le 21/06/2023 à 10:23, Philippe Delavalade a écrit :
> > > Salut Aldo.
> > > 
> > > Perso j'utilise yt-dlp à travers pipe-viewer et c'est ce dernier que l'on
> > > peut configurer pour qu'il donne du mp3 et pas du mkv ou webm ou je ne 
> > > sais
> > > quoi.
> > > 
> > > Pour ce qui est de ton script, il faut peut-être le modifier un peu à 
> > > cause
> > > de yt-dlp qui est sans doute un peu différent de youtube-dl.
> > > 
> > > yt-dlp, à ma connaissance, ne se met pas à jour tout seul ; chez moi
> > > c'est Didier (le mainteneur de slint) qui fait le boulot :-)
> > > 
> > > À+
> > 
> 
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Re: [CBLX] transferwee et youtube-dl

[Aldo]

J'ai essayé et ça fonctionne, sauf que c plus lent ainsi, dans mo nscript
j'arrive à faire ça plus vite mais il rapatrie d'abord le webm, c la
conversion qui apparemente est instantanée sur mon ordi.

Aldo.


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> Aldo  a écrit le 21/06/2023 à 10h13 :
> > La raison pour laquelle je suis attaché à mon script youtube_to_mp3, est
> > précisément parce qu'il fais en une commande ce que son nom dit, cad
> > rapatrier et convertir en mp3
> 
> yt-dlp sait faire ça tout seul :
> 
> yt-dlp -x --audio-format mp3 URL
> 
> Nicolas
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[CBLX] YT-DLP_to_MP3 pour vous!!!

[Aldo]

Hello,

je publie (/partage) ici le petit script yt-dlp_to_mp3 que j'ai concocté
hier:
il a l'air de super bien fonctionner ici,
cad rapidité et rapidité de transfo puis play mode pour ceux qui le
souhaitent (/à modifier à votre guise).

J'utilise p-e un peu trop de params mais là aussi, libre à vous de
modifier/adapter à votre goût et besoins!

Amicalement,

Aldo.

(yt-dlp_to_mp3 en pj) 

#!/bin/bash
# 
# YT-DLP To Mp3 Converter - OLR - 22-06-2023 - Public 
# 
# Var: 
DEFURL="http://youtu.be;
DEFPL="mplayer -vo null -vc dummy -nolirc -nojoystick -cache-min 2" 
# 
# Running ! 
clear 
echo "YT-DLP_to_MP3 ! " 
test -z "$1" && echo "   Usage: yt-dlp_to_mp3 YT-ID (11 chars) " && echo " " && 
exit 
echo " 
Running yt-dlp_to_mp3 $DEFURL/$1
 "
# Download, don't convert to audio, keep downloaded video file 
#yt-dlp --ignore-errors --no-abort-on-error --no-check-certificates 
--ignore-config --retries 20 --buffer-size 512 --restrict-filenames -k 
$DEFURL/$1
# Download, extract audio to mp3, play ./*$1*.mp3 
yt-dlp --ignore-errors --no-abort-on-error --no-check-certificates 
--ignore-config --retries 20 --buffer-size 512 --restrict-filenames 
--extract-audio --audio-format mp3 --audio-quality 6 $DEFURL/$1
# Play On/Off 
#$DEFPL ./*$1*
$DEFPL ./*$1*.mp3
#
exit
# 
# End of script. 

Re: [CBLX] transferwee et youtube-dl

[Aldo]

Salut Didier et Pascal: 

On Wed, Jun 07, 2023 at 02:29:01AM +0200, Didier Spaier wrote:
> Bonjour Pascal,
> 
> réponse en ligne
> 
> Le 07/06/2023 à 01:50, Pascal GRÉGIS a écrit :
> > J'ai vu dans un récent thread qu'il eistait un fork nommé yt-dlp. Je viens 
> > de l'installer, le souci est qu'il requiert une version 3.7 de python.
> > Ai-je une chance de pouvoir contourner ces problèmes ou mon seul salut 
> > réside-t-il dans une mise à jour du système qui me permette d'avoir python 
> > 3.7 ?
> 
> Je confirme que yt-dlp fonctionne très bien et replace avantageusement 
> youtube-dl.

Je viens d'avoir une maj sur mon système qui fais que yt-dlp re-fonctionne,
car lors de son installation il ne fonctionnait simplement pas;
maintenant c le contraire, c mon script qui utilise une ancienne version de
youtube-dl du site yt-dl.org qui semble trouver une partie des liens et une
autre pas ...

Es-ce que yt-dlp fonctionne mieux parce qu'il se met automatiquement à jour
? :-) 

La raison pour laquelle je suis attaché à mon script youtube_to_mp3, est
précisément parce qu'il fais en une commande ce que son nom dit, cad
rapatrier et convertir en mp3, ce qu iest + aisé que devoir le faire à la
main. Mais si yt-dlp est plus pérenne, je puis l'intégrer dans mon script et
utiliser plutôt celui-là comme outil de pêche :-) 

Aldo. 

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RE: Spark Kubernetes Operator

[Aldo Culquicondor]

We are welcoming contributors, as announced in the Kubernetes WG Batch
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XOeUN-K0aKmJJNq7H07r74n-mGgSFyiEDQ3ecwsGhec/edit#bookmark=id.gfgjt0nmbgjl

If you are interested, you can find us in slack.k8s.io #wg-batch or
ping @mwielgus on github/slack.

Thanks

On 2023/04/14 16:41:36 Yuval Itzchakov wrote:
> Hi,
>
> ATM I see the most used option for a Spark operator is the one provided by
> Google: https://github.com/GoogleCloudPlatform/spark-on-k8s-operator
>
> Unfortunately, it doesn't seem actively maintained. Are there any plans to
> support an official Apache Spark community driven operator?
>

Re: [Logica-l] ChatGPT quis matar Newton da Costa

[Aldo Figallo-Orellano]

Imaginemos que um médico tem um paciente con câncer ele decide tratar ele
com paracetamol.

O médico registra que a febre baixou mais o câncer segue igual. Então ele
conclui:

O câncer não tem cura.

O paracetamol não serve para nada.

A realidade é o paracetamol foi desenvolvido para outros propósitos.

Ese e o assunto qual seria o uso certo do ChatGPT, evidentemente para
oráculo não serve, para se informar parece que também não. Mas acho que
alguns dos defeitos podem ser resolvidos.

Outro ponto, o único que se vê prejudicado pela fake news e o usuario. A
verdade não penso me informar por esse meio, nem por Facebook nem por
Instagram todas fabricas existentes de fake News.




Em qua., 12 de abr. de 2023 10:28, Alexandre Rademaker 
escreveu:

>
> Recomendo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lnHHWRCDGk=1629s
>
> Que basicamente reforça os comentários do Marcelo.
>
>
> Ab.,
> Alexandre
>
>
> > On 10 Apr 2023, at 10:13, Marcelo Finger  wrote:
> >
> >   > ChatGPT le é se transforma,  desse modo,  numa verdadeira máquina
> automática de mentiras!
> >
> > Claro!  Ele é explicitamente treinado para gerar texto, sem qqer
> compromisso com a realidade (a menos daquilo que o pessoal chamou de
> "comportamento emergente").  Então, no seu âmago, ele é um gerador de fake
> news.
> >
> > O meu ponto é: nessa altura, isso não é mais novidade.
> >
> > Novidade seriam métodos para domar a besta.  E parar de inflar a bola
> dele é uma necessidade.
> >
> > []s
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Re: [Logica-l] ChatGPT quis matar Newton da Costa

[Aldo Figallo-Orellano]

Penso que essa pergunta debería poder ser respondida, usando Wikipedia.

Mas por enquanto ChatGPT é uma tecnología nova. Alguém se lembra do Google
no começo, não era tão eficiente quanto é agora.

Mas claro que vamos ter limitações, não pode um programa responder as
seguintes perguntas:

Deus existe?

Vou ter câncer no futuro?

Mas se darmos algum tipo de datas, algumas perguntas podem ser respondidas.
Penso que essa tecnologia poder ter muita utilidade. Já nos bancos a gente
não fala com pessoa nos chats, para resolver muitos dos problemas.

Abs

Aldo


Em dom., 9 de abr. de 2023 17:30, Walter Carnielli 
escreveu:

> Pergunta:  Quando  foi a data da  morte de  Newton da Costa?
>
>
> Resposta do ChatGPT: Newton da Costa faleceu em 12 de fevereiro de 2011.
> Ele foi um renomado matemático e lógico brasileiro, considerado um dos
> fundadores da lógica paraconsistente.
>
> "ChatGPT Mar 23 Version. Free Research Preview. ChatGPT may produce
> inaccurate information about people, places, or facts"
>
> Longa vida ao Mestre  Newton!
>
> W.
> PS- Acho que isso nem é Off-Topic...
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Re: [CBLX] Pour ou contre les trottinettes en libre-service ?

[Aldo]

Je pense que ceci est arrivé sur la mliste par erreur ! ! vu que c
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> > Bonjour,
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Re: [Logica-l] Fwd: [CAROL / UFRN] Fwd: [CHAMADA] - Edição Especial revista Axioms

[Aldo Figallo-Orellano]

Boa Tarde,

Confesso que tenho enviado dois artigos a Journal of Symbolic Logic, o
primeiro foi rejeito e o segundo também. Mas o primeiro foi publicado numa
revista que está acima da JSL segundo http://www.scimagojr.com/
Será que tive sorte? No caso do segundo, não estou conseguindo publicar,
será que terei que pagar?

Enfim, prometo não usar fundos públicos.



Aldo

El mar, 28 mar 2023 a la(s) 13:44, Mauricio Ayala-Rincón (ay...@unb.br)
escribió:

> Caros,
>
> O principal problema não é apenas o "prevaricato" ou "improbidade
> administrativa"
> envolvida em ações para utilização de recursos públicos destinados ao
> pagamento de publicações.
> O problema é a falta de maturidade científica e excesso de deshonestidade
> que esse tipo de
> publicação paga está criando na velha e nova geração pseudo-cientista.
> Da-se muito bem
> aquele que publica expeditamente um número significativo de artigos em
> periódicos
> "bem qualificados":
>
> - candidatos à pós-graduação,
> - candidatos à ser nossos colegas,
> - candidatos à bolsas de fomento à pesquisa,
> - etc.
>
> É algo que vem crescendo e contaminando nossas IFES através da
> incorporação de
> pessoal que não apresenta qualificação adequada.   A ponta do iceberg são
> os recursos públicos
> perdidos no pagamento de publicações, mas as implicações econômicas para a
> pesquisa da nação
> são maiores. Bolsas, salários e recursos para pesquisa são alocados, como
> consequência, de
> forma inadequada.
>
> Um fator a considerar seriamente, sobre a avaliação da qualidade das
> publicações
> é o tempo que essas editoras investem no processo de revisão.  É obvio, em
> qualquer área da ciência, que um artigo revisado expeditamente, em um par
> de
> semanas, e imediatamente publicado não é confiável.
>
> Os tempos médios de MDPI Sensors, por exemplo, são de 16 dias para
> avaliação, e
> três dias para publicação. Maravilha publicar dessa maneira! Mas para o
> que?
> Como  pesquisador, não entendo honesto dedicar o meu tempo e o dos meus
> alunos, pago com recursos públicos,  na leitura de produção intelectual
> avaliada
> dessa forma expedita.
>
> Em síntese, encontro urgente incorporar no Qualis mecanismos que
> considerem de
> forma precisa a qualidade dos processos de revisão.  Tempos de avaliação
> reduzidos
> implicam baixa qualidade.
>
> Por outro lado, participar desses empreendimentos piramidais editoriais, é
> pendurar
> no pescoço dois diplomas: o de "deshonestidade" e o de "imbecilidade". O
> primeiro
> está sendo útil para passarmos a perna em nossos colegas, por enquanto. O
> segundo,
> será útil para nos safar do primeiro quando chamados, cedo ou tarde, a
> prestar contas.
>
> Grande abraço, para aqueles que ainda sonham em publicar no Journal of
> Symbolic
> Logic, ACM Journal of Logic e similares.  Grande despreço para aqueles que
> pretendem continuar investindo recursos públicos, que bem poderiam ser
> aplicados
> em mais bolsas de Mestrado e Doutorado, na publicação expedita usando essa
> abordagem editorial piramidal.
>
> Mauricio
>
> On Tuesday, March 28, 2023 at 11:33:35 AM UTC-3 oliv...@daad-alumni.de
> wrote:
>
>> Em segunda-feira, 27 de março de 2023 às 21:59:20 UTC-3, Walter Carnielli
>> escreveu:
>>
>> Então Hermógenes, considerando os elevados custos da compra de
>> assinaturas pelo cofres públicos, e considerando
>> a tendência de pagar para publicar que está pressionando aqueles que
>> produzem ciência, o que devemos fazer?
>> Pagar dos dois lados?
>>
>>
>> Pois é, Walter. Acho que um primeiro passo importante é levantar a pauta,
>> como você fez, e trocar ideias e argumentos entre os colegas para que o
>> assunto ganhe mais visibilidade e, quem sabe, suscite ações mais
>> coordenadas (é um problema difícil de solucionar no âmbito meramente
>> individual).
>>
>> Como escrevi, não tenho uma solução universal a sugerir. Mas vou
>> compartilhar algumas considerações, as quais, contudo, são bastante
>> peculiares à minha situação e certamente não se aplicam a vários outros
>> contextos.
>>
>> Primeiro, algumas observações, que me parecem incontestáveis:
>>
>> 1. O serviço de editoração de casas de publicação científica é ruim, e
>> parece estar piorando com o passar do tempo (escrevi sobre isto na lista
>> antes
>> <https://groups.google.com/a/dimap.ufrn.br/g/logica-l/c/D5hMtl4KedY/m/Jug-fvxaBQAJ>).
>> Uma boa parte do serviço é terceirizado a trabalhadores sobrecarregados em
>> países em desenvolvimento.
>>
>> 2. Publicação científica tem custos, sim. Hospedagem, indexaç

Re: [Logica-l] Fwd: [CAROL / UFRN] Fwd: [CHAMADA] - Edição Especial revista Axioms

[Aldo Figallo-Orellano]

Obrigado a todes pelas respostas!

 Agora que vi no site da revista que eles cobram, vão conseguir perder os
bons trabalhos. O valor para publicar é muito alto.

El lun, 27 mar 2023 a la(s) 16:09, Elaine Pimentel (
elaine.pimen...@gmail.com) escribió:

> Informação fresca da página:
>
> "All articles published in Axioms (ISSN 2075-1680) are published in full
> open access. An article processing charge (APC) of 1600 CHF (Swiss Francs)
> applies to papers accepted after peer review.
>
> Please note that for papers submitted after 30 June 2023, an APC of 2400
> CHF will apply."
>
> Bonne chance!
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 9:05 PM Valeria de Paiva <
> valeria.depa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Isso, Aldo!
>> >Cada autor que tenha aceito um artigo vai ter que pagar para que ele
>> seja publicado!
>> e pagar muito!
>> se o autor tiver algum projeto de pesquisa, o projeto pode pagar pelo
>> artigo.
>> a maioria das pessoas que eu conheço não tem projeto com rubrica de pagar
>> OA.
>>
>> isso e' um absurdo! e' a gente pagar pra trabalhar, duas vezes!
>> a gente trabalha de graça pros publishers (editando, revisando,
>> escrevendo) e depois a gente paga pra eles publicarem!
>>
>> quando a gente conta isso pros amigos da indústria eles riem da nossa
>> cara!
>> Valeria
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 11:51 AM Aldo Figallo-Orellano <
>> aldofiga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Não estou entendendo.
>>> Cada autor que tenha aceito um artigo vai ter que pagar para que ele
>>> seja publicado?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> El lun, 27 mar 2023 a la(s) 12:54, Valeria de Paiva (
>>> valeria.depa...@gmail.com) escribió:
>>>
>>>> Walter,
>>>> Muito obrigada por escrever essa mensagem!
>>>> e' um absurdo o que esses caras estão fazendo, transformando "open
>>>> access publishing" numa cura pior do que a doença.
>>>>
>>>> A doença e' a publicação tradicional onde os editores adquirem os
>>>> direitos sobre os artigos e autores não pagam pra publicar, mas leitores
>>>> pagam pra ler, qdo ja' pagaram uma vez (com seus impostos, que sustentam as
>>>> universidades e as pesquisas).
>>>>
>>>> o "Golden Open Access" (que de dourado so' lembra o garimpo) e' onde os
>>>> autores pagam preços absurdos (como os que vc descreveu) pra publicar
>>>> pesquisa que foi financiada com dinheiro publico, se transformando assim em
>>>> "vanity-authors":  muito pior a emenda do que o soneto.
>>>>
>>>> o que  a gente quer e' open access de verdade, autores não pagam (ou
>>>> pagam so' o que custa, em vez de terem lucros absurdos como no momento) e
>>>> os leitores não pagam, por algo que ja' pagaram com seus impostos.
>>>>
>>>> Uma discussão boa sobre isso aconteceu na palestra do Gabriel Scherer
>>>> no Logicos em Quarentena https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1CukusUAbI.
>>>> Todo mundo devia dar uma olhada, pois o Gabriel esta' falando de pesquisa
>>>> em linguagens de programação, mas publicação em lógica e' muito parecido.
>>>>
>>>> abraços,
>>>> Valeria
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 7:14 AM Walter Carnielli 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Cara(o)s colegas:
>>>>>
>>>>> Recentemente recusei uma oferta de editar um número especial da
>>>>> revista Axioms da MDPI  devido aos exorbitantes custos de publicação
>>>>> ("publication fees" de 2000 Francos suíços, aproximadamente  R$ 12.000 por
>>>>> peça publicada).
>>>>>
>>>>> Após consultar a comunidade resolvi não bancar o  captador de recursos
>>>>> para a MDPI.
>>>>>
>>>>> A Unicamp tem um convênio com essa editora,  pelo qual eles reduzem
>>>>> substancialmente a taxa de publicação.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Mas mesmo reduzindo 75% (se é que fosse esse o caso) eu não pagaria
>>>>> R$ 3000 para publicar um artigo nessa editora, e nem gostaria de submeter
>>>>> meus colegas a isso.
>>>>>
>>>>> E também não gostaria que o dinheiro da Fapesp do CNPp fossem gastos
>>>>> dessa forma.
>>>>>
>>>>> É  claro que há despesas para se implementar "open publications", mas
>>>>> despesa é uma coisa e lucro  excessivo é 

Re: [Logica-l] Fwd: [CAROL / UFRN] Fwd: [CHAMADA] - Edição Especial revista Axioms

[Aldo Figallo-Orellano]

Não estou entendendo.
Cada autor que tenha aceito um artigo vai ter que pagar para que ele seja
publicado?




El lun, 27 mar 2023 a la(s) 12:54, Valeria de Paiva (
valeria.depa...@gmail.com) escribió:

> Walter,
> Muito obrigada por escrever essa mensagem!
> e' um absurdo o que esses caras estão fazendo, transformando "open access
> publishing" numa cura pior do que a doença.
>
> A doença e' a publicação tradicional onde os editores adquirem os direitos
> sobre os artigos e autores não pagam pra publicar, mas leitores pagam pra
> ler, qdo ja' pagaram uma vez (com seus impostos, que sustentam as
> universidades e as pesquisas).
>
> o "Golden Open Access" (que de dourado so' lembra o garimpo) e' onde os
> autores pagam preços absurdos (como os que vc descreveu) pra publicar
> pesquisa que foi financiada com dinheiro publico, se transformando assim em
> "vanity-authors":  muito pior a emenda do que o soneto.
>
> o que  a gente quer e' open access de verdade, autores não pagam (ou pagam
> so' o que custa, em vez de terem lucros absurdos como no momento) e os
> leitores não pagam, por algo que ja' pagaram com seus impostos.
>
> Uma discussão boa sobre isso aconteceu na palestra do Gabriel Scherer no
> Logicos em Quarentena https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1CukusUAbI. Todo
> mundo devia dar uma olhada, pois o Gabriel esta' falando de pesquisa em
> linguagens de programação, mas publicação em lógica e' muito parecido.
>
> abraços,
> Valeria
>
> On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 7:14 AM Walter Carnielli 
> wrote:
>
>> Cara(o)s colegas:
>>
>> Recentemente recusei uma oferta de editar um número especial da revista
>> Axioms da MDPI  devido aos exorbitantes custos de publicação ("publication
>> fees" de 2000 Francos suíços, aproximadamente  R$ 12.000 por peça
>> publicada).
>>
>> Após consultar a comunidade resolvi não bancar o  captador de recursos
>> para a MDPI.
>>
>> A Unicamp tem um convênio com essa editora,  pelo qual eles reduzem
>> substancialmente a taxa de publicação.
>>
>>
>>  Mas mesmo reduzindo 75% (se é que fosse esse o caso) eu não pagaria R$
>> 3000 para publicar um artigo nessa editora, e nem gostaria de submeter meus
>> colegas a isso.
>>
>> E também não gostaria que o dinheiro da Fapesp do CNPp fossem gastos
>> dessa forma.
>>
>> É  claro que há despesas para se implementar "open publications", mas
>> despesa é uma coisa e lucro  excessivo é outra.
>>
>> Abraços,
>> Walter
>>
>> Em seg., 27 de mar. de 2023 10:35, Aldo Figallo-Orellano <
>> aldofiga...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>>
>>>
>>> El lun, 27 mar 2023 a la(s) 09:11, Benjamin Rene Callejas Bedregal (
>>> brcbedre...@gmail.com) escribió:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- Forwarded message -
>>>>
>>>> Prezados,
>>>>
>>>> Estou organizando uma edição especial da revista Axioms (*Open Access
>>>> Journal by **MPDI*) intitulada *"Recent Advances in Fuzzy Logic and
>>>> Computational Intelligence"*,  com *fator de impacto 1824* e Q*ualis
>>>> CAPES A1* nas áreas Engenharias I, Interdisciplinar e
>>>> Matemática/Probabilidade e Estatística.
>>>>
>>>> Assim, gostaria de convidá-los a enviar trabalhos para contribuir com a
>>>> chamada!! Segue anexo o card com os detalhes da edição.
>>>>
>>>> Com os melhores cumprimentos,
>>>>
>>>> Prof. Dr. Eduardo S. Palmeira
>>>> *Guest Editor *
>>>>
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>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/CAROL-ufrn/CAN%3Dw4x4cPAuPbxU5QZiPtMnehmtS8Cjvh9UrzxJMk%2BBK-_-Trg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>
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Re: [Logica-l] Fwd: [CAROL / UFRN] Fwd: [CHAMADA] - Edição Especial revista Axioms

[Aldo Figallo-Orellano]

Oi Walter,

Confesso que nunca publiquei nessa revista, desconheço os custos. Mas tenho
visto artigos bons publicado.

Abs

Aldo



Em seg., 27 de mar. de 2023 11:14, Walter Carnielli 
escreveu:

> Cara(o)s colegas:
>
> Recentemente recusei uma oferta de editar um número especial da revista
> Axioms da MDPI  devido aos exorbitantes custos de publicação ("publication
> fees" de 2000 Francos suíços, aproximadamente  R$ 12.000 por peça
> publicada).
>
> Após consultar a comunidade resolvi não bancar o  captador de recursos
> para a MDPI.
>
> A Unicamp tem um convênio com essa editora,  pelo qual eles reduzem
> substancialmente a taxa de publicação.
>
>
>  Mas mesmo reduzindo 75% (se é que fosse esse o caso) eu não pagaria R$
> 3000 para publicar um artigo nessa editora, e nem gostaria de submeter meus
> colegas a isso.
>
> E também não gostaria que o dinheiro da Fapesp do CNPp fossem gastos dessa
> forma.
>
> É  claro que há despesas para se implementar "open publications", mas
> despesa é uma coisa e lucro  excessivo é outra.
>
> Abraços,
> Walter
>
> Em seg., 27 de mar. de 2023 10:35, Aldo Figallo-Orellano <
> aldofiga...@gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>>
>> El lun, 27 mar 2023 a la(s) 09:11, Benjamin Rene Callejas Bedregal (
>> brcbedre...@gmail.com) escribió:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Forwarded message -
>>>
>>> Prezados,
>>>
>>> Estou organizando uma edição especial da revista Axioms (*Open Access
>>> Journal by **MPDI*) intitulada *"Recent Advances in Fuzzy Logic and
>>> Computational Intelligence"*,  com *fator de impacto 1824* e Q*ualis
>>> CAPES A1* nas áreas Engenharias I, Interdisciplinar e
>>> Matemática/Probabilidade e Estatística.
>>>
>>> Assim, gostaria de convidá-los a enviar trabalhos para contribuir com a
>>> chamada!! Segue anexo o card com os detalhes da edição.
>>>
>>> Com os melhores cumprimentos,
>>>
>>> Prof. Dr. Eduardo S. Palmeira
>>> *Guest Editor *
>>>
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Re: [RESOLU yt-dlp] Was: Re: [CBLX] youtube-dl bloqué/bugué

[Aldo]

Re hello Didier, 

J'aurais voulu savoir pourquoi la conversion en mp3 se fais d'office en 32 bit 
48 kHz et s'il n'y a pas moyen de passer une option pour avoir un mp3 par ex. 
en 44,1 kHz 192 bit ?
(en 32 bit 48 kHz le minutage ne correspond généralement à rien du tout, un
morceau de 4:14 peut très bien être affiché comme un morceau de 18:45, moi
en tout cas j'ai ça dans mplayer;
quant à mpv beh j'arrive pas à diminuer le volume...)

Aldo. 


On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 06:04:08PM +0100, Didier Spaier wrote:
> Salut,
> 
> Pour télécharger directement en mp3 (snas la vidéo):
> yt-dlp -x --audio-format mp3 
> 
> Bien sûr d'autres formats sont possibles (merci ffmpeg), yt-dlp --help t'en 
> dira
> plus.
> 
> Didier
> 
> PS Un détail:
> echo " "
> est superflu
> echo
> suffit.
> 
> Le 27/02/2023 à 17:39, Aldo a écrit :
> > Yoh Didier,
> > 
> > ceci fut efficace! Encore merci, ça marche nickel ! :-) 
> > 
> > En plus, comme j'ai le script youtube_to_mp3 (vois pj), je peux en faire une
> > version pour yt-dlp (pj);
> > 
> > pour info, le but est:
> >  1- qu'il pioche de YT un fichier webm ou mp4 ou autre
> >  2- le dépose dans $HOME/yt-dl/20230227/ (ou la date suivante demain)
> >  3- et qu'il en presse le jus audio vers un fichier mp3
> > 
> > A+
> > 
> > Aldo. 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 05:57:49PM +0100, Didier Spaier wrote:
> >> Salut Aldo.
> >>
> >> Solution simple:installer un binaire officiel de yt-dlp.
> >>
> >> wget https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/releases/latest/download/yt-dlp
> >> sudo mv yt-dlp /usr/bin/
> >> sudo chmod 755 /usr/bin/yt-dlp
> >>
> >> Vérification:
> >> yt-dlp --version
> >> 2023.02.17
> >>
> >> Ensuite pour écouter Hilary Hahn jouer la Chaconne de la partita n° 2:
> >> mpv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngjEVKxQCWs
> >>
> >> Voili, voilou.
> >>
> >> Didier
> >>
> >> Le 26/02/2023 à 17:05, Aldo a écrit :
> >>> Salut Didier.
> >>>
> >>> C'est du Ubuntu 20.04 qui tourne ici, 
> >>> mais comme expliqué à Philippe, le souci vient du fait que Python réclame
> >>> qu'il te trouve pas un répo de son environnement virtuel pip, hors j'ai 
> >>> bien
> >>> installé python-pip et même pipenv et pipx;
> >>> pourquoi revient-il avec /usr/bin/env qui n'existe pas, ok il n'existe pas
> >>> mais c pas à moi à le créer à la main ?
> >>> S'il a bien été là dans les anciennes Ubuntu, pourquoi j'ai ce souci après
> >>> la version 16.* ?
> >>>
> >>> yt-dlp n'est pas la solution vu qu'il n'est qu'un fork de youtube-dl, j'ai
> >>> là aussi un msg d'erreur.
> >>>
> >>> ET quant à télécharger le bin latest de yt-dl.org beh idem, ça ne veut tj
> >>> pas le faire!
> >>>
> >>> Seule jusqu'ici al version de snap fonctionnait,
> >>> mais jusq'aujourd'hui je n'arrive pas à avoir la version de 2023.
> >>>
> >>> Aldo. 
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 11:57:16AM +0100, Didier Spaier wrote:
> >>>> Bonjour Aldo,
> >>>>
> >>>> Ton youtube-dl (ou yt-dlp, qui le remplace avantageusement) est trop 
> >>>> vieux.
> >>>>
> >>>> Soit tu installes Slint (air connu).
> >>>> Soit si tu a Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy) tu installes le paquet yt-dlp du dépôt
> >>>> jammy-backports: https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy-backports/yt-dlp. 
> >>>> c'est le
> >>>> plus récent disponible pour Ubuntu (à moins que tu veuille tester la 
> >>>> version
> >>>> 23.04 (Lunar Lobster) dont la sortie est prévue en avril 2023.
> >>>>
> >>>> A+,
> >>>> Didier
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Le 26/02/2023 à 05:04, Aldo a écrit :
> >>>>> Bonjour. 
> >>>>>
> >>>>> qq'un ici a-t-il/elle un souci identique : je n'arrive plus à 
> >>>>> télécharger
> >>>>> avec youtube-dl, idem pour yt-dlp;
> >>>>>
> >>>>> mais je sais qu'un bug a été rapporté à yt-dl.org, sauf que la version
> >>>>> corrigée n'a tj pas été publiée.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Du coup:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> - j'ai installé la version github de youtube-dl
> >>>>> - j'ai ég

Re: [RESOLU yt-dlp] Was: Re: [CBLX] youtube-dl bloqué/bugué

[Aldo]

Yoh Philippe,

y a pas de pipe-viewer sous la distrib, parcontre on a un termplay dans la
bulle snap
et mps-youtube en paquet .deb (via apt).
Si pipe-viewer existe en binaire et qu'il n'a pas trop d'exigences au niveau
dépendences, ptet que c facile à installer;
mais sinon je réessayes à l'occasion mps-youtube, qui entre dans un env
virtuel et permet par des commandes de lister ou télécharger.
Je ne l'utilise plus depuis longtemps parce qu'à l'époque de mon essai ça ne
fonctionnait pas. On savait lancer l'appli mais pas farie grand chose avec.

Aldo.


On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 06:03:38PM +0100, Philippe Delavalade wrote:
> Hello Aldo.
> 
> Content de savoir que ça marche.
> 
> Cela dit, si pipe-viewer est disponible sous ubuntu, il fait ça tout seul
> ou presque (il suffit d'adapter son fichier de configuration).
> 
> pipe-viewer est interactif ; une fois dedans, tu peux lancer par exemple
> = "nom_d_un_artiste"
> ou
> = "nom_d_un_morceau"
> ou les deux :
> = "artiste" "morceau"
> 
> Il te propose une liste numérotée.
> 
> En tapant le nombre # voulu, tu stream, avec :i# tu obtiens des infos sur
> la vidéo et :d# tu télécharges.
> 
> Il y a une aide soit une fois lancé et un manuel.
> 
> C'est vraiment très pratique en console ; je ne sais pas ce que ça donne en
> graphique. Par contre, pipe-viewer demande la version la plus récente de
> yt-dlp.
> 
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[RESOLU yt-dlp] Was: Re: [CBLX] youtube-dl bloqué/bugué

[Aldo]

Yoh Didier,

ceci fut efficace! Encore merci, ça marche nickel ! :-) 

En plus, comme j'ai le script youtube_to_mp3 (vois pj), je peux en faire une
version pour yt-dlp (pj);

pour info, le but est:
 1- qu'il pioche de YT un fichier webm ou mp4 ou autre
 2- le dépose dans $HOME/yt-dl/20230227/ (ou la date suivante demain)
 3- et qu'il en presse le jus audio vers un fichier mp3

A+

Aldo. 


On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 05:57:49PM +0100, Didier Spaier wrote:
> Salut Aldo.
> 
> Solution simple:installer un binaire officiel de yt-dlp.
> 
> wget https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/releases/latest/download/yt-dlp
> sudo mv yt-dlp /usr/bin/
> sudo chmod 755 /usr/bin/yt-dlp
> 
> Vérification:
> yt-dlp --version
> 2023.02.17
> 
> Ensuite pour écouter Hilary Hahn jouer la Chaconne de la partita n° 2:
> mpv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngjEVKxQCWs
> 
> Voili, voilou.
> 
> Didier
> 
> Le 26/02/2023 à 17:05, Aldo a écrit :
> > Salut Didier.
> > 
> > C'est du Ubuntu 20.04 qui tourne ici, 
> > mais comme expliqué à Philippe, le souci vient du fait que Python réclame
> > qu'il te trouve pas un répo de son environnement virtuel pip, hors j'ai bien
> > installé python-pip et même pipenv et pipx;
> > pourquoi revient-il avec /usr/bin/env qui n'existe pas, ok il n'existe pas
> > mais c pas à moi à le créer à la main ?
> > S'il a bien été là dans les anciennes Ubuntu, pourquoi j'ai ce souci après
> > la version 16.* ?
> > 
> > yt-dlp n'est pas la solution vu qu'il n'est qu'un fork de youtube-dl, j'ai
> > là aussi un msg d'erreur.
> > 
> > ET quant à télécharger le bin latest de yt-dl.org beh idem, ça ne veut tj
> > pas le faire!
> > 
> > Seule jusqu'ici al version de snap fonctionnait,
> > mais jusq'aujourd'hui je n'arrive pas à avoir la version de 2023.
> > 
> > Aldo. 
> > 
> > On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 11:57:16AM +0100, Didier Spaier wrote:
> >> Bonjour Aldo,
> >>
> >> Ton youtube-dl (ou yt-dlp, qui le remplace avantageusement) est trop vieux.
> >>
> >> Soit tu installes Slint (air connu).
> >> Soit si tu a Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy) tu installes le paquet yt-dlp du dépôt
> >> jammy-backports: https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy-backports/yt-dlp. c'est 
> >> le
> >> plus récent disponible pour Ubuntu (à moins que tu veuille tester la 
> >> version
> >> 23.04 (Lunar Lobster) dont la sortie est prévue en avril 2023.
> >>
> >> A+,
> >> Didier
> >>
> >>
> >> Le 26/02/2023 à 05:04, Aldo a écrit :
> >>> Bonjour. 
> >>>
> >>> qq'un ici a-t-il/elle un souci identique : je n'arrive plus à télécharger
> >>> avec youtube-dl, idem pour yt-dlp;
> >>>
> >>> mais je sais qu'un bug a été rapporté à yt-dl.org, sauf que la version
> >>> corrigée n'a tj pas été publiée.
> >>>
> >>> Du coup:
> >>>
> >>> - j'ai installé la version github de youtube-dl
> >>> - j'ai également installé l'ancienne version via un script (pj)
> >>>
> >>> mais rien n'y fais ...
> >>> ça continue à réclamer que 
> >>>  /usr/bin/env: 'python': Bestand of map bestaat niet
> >>>  (cad fichier ou répertoire n'existe pas) 
> >>>
> >>> Par acquis de conscience, j'ai ajouté pipenv et pipx, 
> >>> sans effet.
> >>>
> >>> J'ai mis le youtube-dl de 2021 dans ~/bin mais c pas ça qui fera la
> >>> différence je pense. 
> >>>
> >>> La version snap elle non plus n'est pas encore publiée...
> >>>
> >>> Je ne sais pas comment résoudre ce souci avec l'env pip de Python:
> >>>
> >>>  ### < dpkg -l |grep pip > ### 
> >>>
> >>> ii  libpipeline1:amd641.5.2-2build1   
> >>> amd64Unix process pipeline manipulation library
> >>> ii  pipenv11.9.0-1
> >>> all  Python's officially recommended packaging tool
> >>> ii  pipx  0.12.3.1-2ubuntu1   
> >>> all  execute binaries from Python packages in 
> >>> isolated environments
> >>> ii  python-pip-whl20.0.2-5ubuntu1.7   
> >>> all  Python package installer
> >>> ii  python3-pip   20.0.2-5ubuntu1.7   
> >>> all  Python package i

Re: [CBLX] youtube-dl bloqué/bugué

[Aldo]

Oh oui  ça c une superbe idée Didier, je vais le faire dès que possible. La
combinaison avec mpv est superintéressante, ça manquait à mplayer.
Merci!
Aldo.


On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 05:57:49PM +0100, Didier Spaier wrote:
> Salut Aldo.
> 
> Solution simple:installer un binaire officiel de yt-dlp.
> 
> wget https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp/releases/latest/download/yt-dlp
> sudo mv yt-dlp /usr/bin/
> sudo chmod 755 /usr/bin/yt-dlp
> 
> Vérification:
> yt-dlp --version
> 2023.02.17
> 
> Ensuite pour écouter Hilary Hahn jouer la Chaconne de la partita n° 2:
> mpv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngjEVKxQCWs
> 
> Voili, voilou.
> 
> Didier
> 
> Le 26/02/2023 à 17:05, Aldo a écrit :
> > Salut Didier.
> > 
> > C'est du Ubuntu 20.04 qui tourne ici, 
> > mais comme expliqué à Philippe, le souci vient du fait que Python réclame
> > qu'il te trouve pas un répo de son environnement virtuel pip, hors j'ai bien
> > installé python-pip et même pipenv et pipx;
> > pourquoi revient-il avec /usr/bin/env qui n'existe pas, ok il n'existe pas
> > mais c pas à moi à le créer à la main ?
> > S'il a bien été là dans les anciennes Ubuntu, pourquoi j'ai ce souci après
> > la version 16.* ?
> > 
> > yt-dlp n'est pas la solution vu qu'il n'est qu'un fork de youtube-dl, j'ai
> > là aussi un msg d'erreur.
> > 
> > ET quant à télécharger le bin latest de yt-dl.org beh idem, ça ne veut tj
> > pas le faire!
> > 
> > Seule jusqu'ici al version de snap fonctionnait,
> > mais jusq'aujourd'hui je n'arrive pas à avoir la version de 2023.
> > 
> > Aldo. 
> > 
> > On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 11:57:16AM +0100, Didier Spaier wrote:
> >> Bonjour Aldo,
> >>
> >> Ton youtube-dl (ou yt-dlp, qui le remplace avantageusement) est trop vieux.
> >>
> >> Soit tu installes Slint (air connu).
> >> Soit si tu a Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy) tu installes le paquet yt-dlp du dépôt
> >> jammy-backports: https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy-backports/yt-dlp. c'est 
> >> le
> >> plus récent disponible pour Ubuntu (à moins que tu veuille tester la 
> >> version
> >> 23.04 (Lunar Lobster) dont la sortie est prévue en avril 2023.
> >>
> >> A+,
> >> Didier
> >>
> >>
> >> Le 26/02/2023 à 05:04, Aldo a écrit :
> >>> Bonjour. 
> >>>
> >>> qq'un ici a-t-il/elle un souci identique : je n'arrive plus à télécharger
> >>> avec youtube-dl, idem pour yt-dlp;
> >>>
> >>> mais je sais qu'un bug a été rapporté à yt-dl.org, sauf que la version
> >>> corrigée n'a tj pas été publiée.
> >>>
> >>> Du coup:
> >>>
> >>> - j'ai installé la version github de youtube-dl
> >>> - j'ai également installé l'ancienne version via un script (pj)
> >>>
> >>> mais rien n'y fais ...
> >>> ça continue à réclamer que 
> >>>  /usr/bin/env: 'python': Bestand of map bestaat niet
> >>>  (cad fichier ou répertoire n'existe pas) 
> >>>
> >>> Par acquis de conscience, j'ai ajouté pipenv et pipx, 
> >>> sans effet.
> >>>
> >>> J'ai mis le youtube-dl de 2021 dans ~/bin mais c pas ça qui fera la
> >>> différence je pense. 
> >>>
> >>> La version snap elle non plus n'est pas encore publiée...
> >>>
> >>> Je ne sais pas comment résoudre ce souci avec l'env pip de Python:
> >>>
> >>>  ### < dpkg -l |grep pip > ### 
> >>>
> >>> ii  libpipeline1:amd641.5.2-2build1   
> >>> amd64Unix process pipeline manipulation library
> >>> ii  pipenv11.9.0-1
> >>> all  Python's officially recommended packaging tool
> >>> ii  pipx  0.12.3.1-2ubuntu1   
> >>> all  execute binaries from Python packages in 
> >>> isolated environments
> >>> ii  python-pip-whl20.0.2-5ubuntu1.7   
> >>> all  Python package installer
> >>> ii  python3-pip   20.0.2-5ubuntu1.7   
> >>> all  Python package installer
> >>>
> >>>  ###  ### 
> >>>
> >>> mais si qq'un y vooit + clair, je suis preneur !
> >>>
> >>> Merci,
> >>>
> >>> Aldo.
> >

[RESOLU]: Re: [CBLX] youtube-dl bloqué/bugué

[Aldo]

Hello,

j'avance, j'ai pu résoudre le problème du répo /usr/bin/env:
en fait, il existe un paquet python-is-python3,
je n'ai eu qu'à l'installer et là il crée le lien symbolique entre python
et python3,

Autre partie de la solution, elle concerne youtube-dl:
j'ai rapatrié une plus ancienne version de youtube-dl que j'ai mis dans
$HOME/bin/, ce répo faisant partie du chemin (path) dans Ubuntu;
du coup, les versions /usr/bin/youtube-dl ou /uusr/local/bin/youtube-dl 
ou même la dernière version de yt-dl.org mise dans ~/bin/ ne fonctionnent tj
pas, alors que la version plus ancienne de youtube-dl elle fonctionne.
J'attends la publication dans snap mais suis déjà bien content de pouvoir
"retravailler" !

Aldo. 
  

On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 11:09:42AM +0100, Philippe Delavalade wrote:
> Salut Aldo.
> 
> Perso, ma version de yt-dlp est celle de 2023.02.17 qui vient d'être mise à
> jour dans slint. Je n'utilise pas directement yt-dlp mais via mpv ou
> pipe-viewer et tout marche bien depui cette mise à jour.
> 
> Bonne chance.
> 
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Re: [CBLX] youtube-dl bloqué/bugué

[Aldo]

Salut Didier.

C'est du Ubuntu 20.04 qui tourne ici, 
mais comme expliqué à Philippe, le souci vient du fait que Python réclame
qu'il te trouve pas un répo de son environnement virtuel pip, hors j'ai bien
installé python-pip et même pipenv et pipx;
pourquoi revient-il avec /usr/bin/env qui n'existe pas, ok il n'existe pas
mais c pas à moi à le créer à la main ?
S'il a bien été là dans les anciennes Ubuntu, pourquoi j'ai ce souci après
la version 16.* ?

yt-dlp n'est pas la solution vu qu'il n'est qu'un fork de youtube-dl, j'ai
là aussi un msg d'erreur.

ET quant à télécharger le bin latest de yt-dl.org beh idem, ça ne veut tj
pas le faire!

Seule jusqu'ici al version de snap fonctionnait,
mais jusq'aujourd'hui je n'arrive pas à avoir la version de 2023.

Aldo. 

On Sun, Feb 26, 2023 at 11:57:16AM +0100, Didier Spaier wrote:
> Bonjour Aldo,
> 
> Ton youtube-dl (ou yt-dlp, qui le remplace avantageusement) est trop vieux.
> 
> Soit tu installes Slint (air connu).
> Soit si tu a Ubuntu 22.04 (Jammy) tu installes le paquet yt-dlp du dépôt
> jammy-backports: https://packages.ubuntu.com/jammy-backports/yt-dlp. c'est le
> plus récent disponible pour Ubuntu (à moins que tu veuille tester la version
> 23.04 (Lunar Lobster) dont la sortie est prévue en avril 2023.
> 
> A+,
> Didier
> 
> 
> Le 26/02/2023 à 05:04, Aldo a écrit :
> > Bonjour. 
> > 
> > qq'un ici a-t-il/elle un souci identique : je n'arrive plus à télécharger
> > avec youtube-dl, idem pour yt-dlp;
> > 
> > mais je sais qu'un bug a été rapporté à yt-dl.org, sauf que la version
> > corrigée n'a tj pas été publiée.
> > 
> > Du coup:
> > 
> > - j'ai installé la version github de youtube-dl
> > - j'ai également installé l'ancienne version via un script (pj)
> > 
> > mais rien n'y fais ...
> > ça continue à réclamer que 
> >  /usr/bin/env: 'python': Bestand of map bestaat niet
> >  (cad fichier ou répertoire n'existe pas) 
> > 
> > Par acquis de conscience, j'ai ajouté pipenv et pipx, 
> > sans effet.
> > 
> > J'ai mis le youtube-dl de 2021 dans ~/bin mais c pas ça qui fera la
> > différence je pense. 
> > 
> > La version snap elle non plus n'est pas encore publiée...
> > 
> > Je ne sais pas comment résoudre ce souci avec l'env pip de Python:
> > 
> >  ### < dpkg -l |grep pip > ### 
> > 
> > ii  libpipeline1:amd641.5.2-2build1 
> >   amd64Unix process pipeline manipulation library
> > ii  pipenv11.9.0-1  
> >   all  Python's officially recommended packaging tool
> > ii  pipx  0.12.3.1-2ubuntu1 
> >   all  execute binaries from Python packages in isolated 
> > environments
> > ii  python-pip-whl20.0.2-5ubuntu1.7 
> >   all  Python package installer
> > ii  python3-pip   20.0.2-5ubuntu1.7 
> >   all  Python package installer
> > 
> >  ###  ### 
> > 
> > mais si qq'un y vooit + clair, je suis preneur !
> > 
> > Merci,
> > 
> > Aldo.
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Re: [CBLX] youtube-dl bloqué/bugué

[Aldo]

Hello Philippe,

tu veux dire que avec mpv on peut streamer/écouter directement un flux de
youtube ?
Je sais qu'il y a eu des corrections mais ça n'est tj pas publié dans
Ubuntu;
quant à Slint beh ça fais plusieurs semaines que je ne suis plus allé à
l'endroit où je l'avais essayée.
La raison pour laquelle yt-dlp ne m'aide pas davantage, est qu'il s'agit
d'un "fork" de youtube-dl,
tant que je ne vois pas la même date de maj apparaître, je sais que je vais
galérer,
et c dommage que le pompage du patch par github n'as rien donné, pourtant ça
devrait.
Mais de toute façon tant que j'ai un msg d'erreur de Python sur
/usr/bin/env: 'python': 
comme quoi le fichier ou répo n'existe pas, je ne suis pas prêt de régler le
/problème.
J'ai même ajouté pipenv et pipx, pour voir si l'environnement virutel,
dumoins son répo serait créé, rien du tout !
ça me bloque dans tous mes travaux actu (tutos, infos, demos pour comparer
etc). 

Aldo. 
  

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> Salut Aldo.
> 
> Perso, ma version de yt-dlp est celle de 2023.02.17 qui vient d'être mise à
> jour dans slint. Je n'utilise pas directement yt-dlp mais via mpv ou
> pipe-viewer et tout marche bien depui cette mise à jour.
> 
> Bonne chance.
> 
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[CBLX] youtube-dl bloqué/bugué

[Aldo]

Bonjour. 

qq'un ici a-t-il/elle un souci identique : je n'arrive plus à télécharger
avec youtube-dl, idem pour yt-dlp;

mais je sais qu'un bug a été rapporté à yt-dl.org, sauf que la version
corrigée n'a tj pas été publiée.

Du coup:

- j'ai installé la version github de youtube-dl
- j'ai également installé l'ancienne version via un script (pj)

mais rien n'y fais ...
ça continue à réclamer que 
 /usr/bin/env: 'python': Bestand of map bestaat niet
 (cad fichier ou répertoire n'existe pas) 

Par acquis de conscience, j'ai ajouté pipenv et pipx, 
sans effet.

J'ai mis le youtube-dl de 2021 dans ~/bin mais c pas ça qui fera la
différence je pense. 

La version snap elle non plus n'est pas encore publiée...

Je ne sais pas comment résoudre ce souci avec l'env pip de Python:

 ### < dpkg -l |grep pip > ### 

ii  libpipeline1:amd641.5.2-2build1 
  amd64Unix process pipeline manipulation library
ii  pipenv11.9.0-1  
  all  Python's officially recommended packaging tool
ii  pipx  0.12.3.1-2ubuntu1 
  all  execute binaries from Python packages in isolated 
environments
ii  python-pip-whl20.0.2-5ubuntu1.7 
  all  Python package installer
ii  python3-pip   20.0.2-5ubuntu1.7 
  all  Python package installer

 ###  ### 

mais si qq'un y vooit + clair, je suis preneur !

Merci,

Aldo.


manutube.sh
Description: Bourne shell script

Re: [CBLX] distrib de travail pour récup de données d'ordi W$

[Aldo]

Hello Philippe,

OK je réessayes dès que je peux, vendredi ou samedi.

Aldo.

PS: je suis attentif mais ne sais pas deviner que la question sur docs ou
start ne viens que après avoir choisit une langue.

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> Salut Aldo.
> 
> Je pense que tu as loupé quelque chose au moment où l'installateur s'est
> lancé. De plus c'est alt+f# et non ctrl+alt+f# pour changer de console (tu
> n'es pas en graphique avec l'installateur).
> 
> Avant le choix entre start et docs, tu dois d'abord choisir ta langue et
> ton clavier (ce dont tu ne parles pas).
> 
> Recommence donc en faisant plus attention :-)
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Re: [CBLX] distrib de travail pour récup de données d'ordi W$

[Aldo]

Bonjour Didier, Philippe & Slin-lovers! 

Slint démarre bien son installateur avec le support braille et une voix (un
peu faible de volume sur le Dell d'essai). 
J'ai cependant échoué dans ma tentative d'utiliser Slint comme distrib de 
secours;
en effet: 
lorsque je tentais ctrl+alt+f* pour m'ouvrir une console,
la remarque "console not in use"
apparaissait sous mes doigts;
or pour parvenir à ancrer une partoche d'un Windows ou autre O S déjà
installé, pouvoir ouvrir une vraie console est indispensasble ! 
J'ai également dû arrêter au "prompt" de démarrage car la version 15 ne me
propose ni  docs  ni  start, 
parcontre si je tape à la main  docs  ça me propose
de choisir ma langue pour l'installation, et je n'arrivais de toute façon
pas à voir autre chose que 
[ ] English USA 
Alors ne voulant / ne pouvant prendre le moidnre risque, j'ai arrêté là.
J'ai aussi noté que même après avoir éteint l'ordi, dès réallumage le menu
de l'installateur est de nouveau affiché;
j'ai dû retirer le DVD et redémarrer à l'arrache pour que l'ordi abandonne
le système chargé en mémoire.
ça m'a rendu curiex et dès que j'aurai un ordi totalement dispo, je tente
cette fois-ci une installation.

Aldo. 

On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 03:55:31PM +0100, Didier Spaier wrote:
> Le 24/01/2023 à 15:34, Aldo a écrit :
> > Re Didier:
> > On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 12:16:18PM +0100, Didier Spaier wrote:
> >> Tu lances l'installateur et à un moment on te proposera de taper 'doc' ou 
> >> 'start'.
> >>
> >> N'en fais rien mais à partir de ce moment tu as la main et toutes le 
> >> commandes
> >> usuelles sont disponibles, notamment lsblk, cp, mount, etc.
> > 
> > OK, super! 
> > Je suppose qu'on peut avec alt+f2 alt+f3 etc ouvrir une n'me console si on a
> > besoin de plus qu'une seule ?
> 
> Bien sûr. De mémoire tty4 est aussi disponible, donc alt+f4 doit fonctionner.
> 
> >> Si tu as besoin de plus d'informations pour la manip, n'hésites pas.
> >>
> >> Sur le site https://slint.fr tu trouveras toutes les informations 
> >> nécessaires
> >> (y en a peu dans ton cas) et le répertoire pour télécharger l'ISO, qui est:
> >> https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-15.0/iso/
> > 
> > J'ai pris la slint64-14.2.1.4.iso
> > mais si la 15 est une stable, je vais la télécharger. 
> 
> Oui elle est stable, aucun risque à l'utiliser.
> 
> >> Bon courage,
> > 
> > Merci; travaux pas prévus avant ce w-e mais je vais enfin pouvoir essayer
> > une Slint. 
> > 
> > Aldo. 
> > 
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[it-users] Libreoffice su Windows 7 64 bit

[Aldo amore bonapasta]

Salve,
ho installato Libreoffice 7.4.4 sul mio PC che soddisfa i requisiti di
sistema e lavora con Windows 7 Pro 64 bit. Appena apro Libreoffice ricevo
il messaggio Windows: Libreoffice ha smesso di funzionare  e l'unica azione
possibile e' chiudi programma.

Qualcuno ha incontrato questo problema?

Pensavo, data la vetusta' del mio SO, di provare ad installare una versione
meno recente di LO ma non mi e' chiaro come farne il download dall'archivio.

Grazie,

Saluti.

Aldo

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Re: [CBLX] distrib de travail pour récup de données d'ordi W$

[Aldo]

Re Didier:
On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 12:16:18PM +0100, Didier Spaier wrote:
> Tu lances l'installateur et à un moment on te proposera de taper 'doc' ou 
> 'start'.
> 
> N'en fais rien mais à partir de ce moment tu as la main et toutes le 
> commandes
> usuelles sont disponibles, notamment lsblk, cp, mount, etc.

OK, super! 
Je suppose qu'on peut avec alt+f2 alt+f3 etc ouvrir une n'me console si on a
besoin de plus qu'une seule ? 
 
> Si tu as besoin de plus d'informations pour la manip, n'hésites pas.
> 
> Sur le site https://slint.fr tu trouveras toutes les informations nécessaires
> (y en a peu dans ton cas) et le répertoire pour télécharger l'ISO, qui est:
> https://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/slint-15.0/iso/

J'ai pris la slint64-14.2.1.4.iso
mais si la 15 est une stable, je vais la télécharger. 

> Bon courage,

Merci; travaux pas prévus avant ce w-e mais je vais enfin pouvoir essayer
une Slint. 

Aldo. 

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Re: [CBLX] distrib de travail pour récup de données d'ordi W$

[Aldo]

Hello Didier: 

On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 12:03:25PM +0100, Didier Spaier wrote:

> Le 24/01/2023 à 08:10, Aldo a écrit :

> > Je souhaite récupérer des données (genre photos mais pas que...) de l'ordi
> > W$ de ma compagne:
> > quelle distro me conseilleriez-vous
> > pour booter en mode console ?
> > Es-ce facile de le faire à parrtir de Debian ou Slint ou toute autre distro
> > minimaliste/légère ? (/votre retour d'expérience bienvenue)
> 
> S'il s'agit d'une distribution capable de booter en mode console, évidemment 
> on
> peut le faire avec Slint.

J'ai récupéré l'iso et les fichiers de check pour graver un DVD.
Mais donc Slint - si je comprends bien - petu simplement booter avec le
support braille, sans installer ? 
 
> Quand à récupérer les données de l'ordi de ta compagne et les remettre ensuite
> sur Linux, qui aura remplacé Windows sur cet ordinateur, le plus simple est 
> de
> les sauvegarder sur un support amovible (clef USB, disque dur ou SSD relié par
> USB,...) 

C bien ce que j'ai dit;
mais le but est que ces photos et autres restent sur le support externe, ce
sera plus facile pour la suite, que ça soit depuis un ordi Window$ ou un
ordi Linux.

> Mais ai-je bien compris ce que tu veux faire?

Booter un O S avec support braille,
par ex. Slint,
mounter la partoche Windows de l'ordi par ex. sous /mnt/
cp -a ou cp les dossiers x et y vers un autre directory/ sous /mnt/
et une fois fait, sync puis umount /mnt/*
et ensuite tester sur un autre ordi (Win ou Linux) s'il sait lire les
fichiers/+voir les photos/etc recopiés sur le disque ou clé USB.
C'est tout!

Aldo. 

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Re: [CBLX] distrib de travail pour récup de données d'ordi W$

[Aldo]

Hello Philippe,

Si Slint permet de la démarrer sans l'installer alors c ça que je cherche:
je ne dois (/peut) pas installer une distro, c juste pour la charger,
mounter la partoche W$ + un disque dur externe, 
et repiocher par-ci par-là des dossiers, des images, etc, du système (mourant) 
vers le disque externe.

Je vais télécharger et graver une Slint.

Aldo.

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> Hello Aldo.
> 
> Bonne année à toi et à tous les autres.
> 
> Pour moi, des tas de distribs vont marcher : arch, debian et bien sûr des
> tas d'autres du moment qu'elles te donnent du braille à l'installation,
> mais j'insiste pour que tu profites de l'occasion pour essayer slint.
> 
> Bon courage.
> 
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> 
> Le mardi 24 janvier à 08:10, Aldo a écrit :
> > Bonjour. 
> > 
> > Tout d'abord, meilleurs voeux pour une année 2023 libre et ouverte !
> > 
> > Je souhaite récupérer des données (genre photos mais pas que...) de l'ordi
> > W$ de ma compagne:
> > quelle distro me conseilleriez-vous
> > pour booter en mode console ?
> > Es-ce facile de le faire à parrtir de Debian ou Slint ou toute autre distro
> > minimaliste/légère ? (/votre retour d'expérience bienvenue)
> > 
> > Merci,
> > A+
> > 
> > Aldo.
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[CBLX] distrib de travail pour récup de données d'ordi W$

[Aldo]

Bonjour. 

Tout d'abord, meilleurs voeux pour une année 2023 libre et ouverte !

Je souhaite récupérer des données (genre photos mais pas que...) de l'ordi
W$ de ma compagne:
quelle distro me conseilleriez-vous
pour booter en mode console ?
Es-ce facile de le faire à parrtir de Debian ou Slint ou toute autre distro
minimaliste/légère ? (/votre retour d'expérience bienvenue)

Merci,
A+

Aldo.

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Re: [CBLX] améliorer le contrast sous la console

[Aldo]

Hello Mathieu,

Mmmm?! non, je pense que pour ma compagne le rouge et bleu ça va être trop
foncé, je pense même qu'elle avait parlé de fond clair et caractères en noir
mais plus gras / plus grands,
cf. plutôt un "reverse screen" ou "inverse screen".

Je vais aussi déjà jouer sur les colonnes et lignes de l'écran, 
(qui sous Linux n'est depuis longtemps plus en 25 lignes sur 80 ou 50 sur
80), par ex. sur cet ordi  stty size  affiche:
   67 240 

Pour qq'un de fort malvoyant/basse vision ça doit être affreusement petit ! 

NB: Pour ajuster l'affichage via stty, il suffit de passer:
   /bin/stty cols 80 rows 25
mais lorsqu'on éteint l'ordi ça reprend ses valeurs "de fabrique".

Et je vais biensûr faire le test avec les scripts de Pierre.

Aldo. 


On Tue, Dec 13, 2022 at 09:37:55PM +0100, Mathieu Barbe wrote:
> Salut, si cela te dis. J'ai fais une manip ou ma ligne de promte est coloré
> en fond bleu ou rouge en fonction du résultat de la dernière commande. Rouge
> si return code différent de zéro, bleu si 0 OK.
> 
> ++ Mathieu
> 
> 
> On 12/13/2022 8:04 PM, Pierre ESTREM wrote:
> > Bonsoir Aldo et le monde Libre,
> > 
> > Tu dois jouer sur le gamma de l'écran (ou le contraste).
> > J'ai joint 3 fichier shell.
> > Tu associes un raccourci clavier à chaque script et tu devrais être
> > heureux ! :)
> > 
> > Tu nous donneras ton avis.
> > 
> > pierre estrem
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Le 13/12/2022 à 08:29, Aldo a écrit :
> > > Hello les amis,
> > > 
> > > ma compagne est "basse vision" et voudrais savoir s'il y a moyen de
> > > clarifier ce que l'on voit affiché en mode console, par ex. en
> > > forçant des
> > > caractères plus blancs sur fond noir ou un reverse-screen avec le
> > > noir plus
> > > gras que d'hab, ou en faisant afficher des lignes de moins ou plus gros
> > > caractères.
> > > Bref qq'un s'est-il déjà penché sur le sujet ?
> > > 
> > > Note: elle bosse davantage en mode graphique, mais pour la gestion /
> > > apt /
> > > etc elle voudrait bien travailler plus confo que le mode standard
> > > proposé
> > > par la distrib.
> > > 
> > > Toute piste la bienvenue!
> > > 
> > > Aldo.
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [CBLX] améliorer le contrast sous la console

[Aldo]

Bonjour Pierre.

Grand merci pour les petits scripts,
comme moi-même je suis dv total, c ma compagne qui jugera puisqu'elle est
basse-vision et c plutôt pour son ordi Linux, pour quand elle devrait faire
les choses sous la console, qu'elle avait formulé une demande en ce sens.
Encore merci et je te ferai biensûr savoir ce que ça donne.

Aldo.


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>   Bonsoir Aldo et le monde Libre,
> 
> Tu dois jouer sur le gamma de l'écran (ou le contraste).
> J'ai joint 3 fichier shell.
> Tu associes un raccourci clavier à chaque script et tu devrais être heureux
> ! :)
> 
> Tu nous donneras ton avis.
> 
> pierre estrem
> 
> 
> 
> Le 13/12/2022 à 08:29, Aldo a écrit :
> > Hello les amis,
> > 
> > ma compagne est "basse vision" et voudrais savoir s'il y a moyen de
> > clarifier ce que l'on voit affiché en mode console, par ex. en forçant des
> > caractères plus blancs sur fond noir ou un reverse-screen avec le noir plus
> > gras que d'hab, ou en faisant afficher des lignes de moins ou plus gros
> > caractères.
> > Bref qq'un s'est-il déjà penché sur le sujet ?
> > 
> > Note: elle bosse davantage en mode graphique, mais pour la gestion / apt /
> > etc elle voudrait bien travailler plus confo que le mode standard proposé
> > par la distrib.
> > 
> > Toute piste la bienvenue!
> > 
> > Aldo.
> > 
> 
> 
> 

> #!/bin/bash
> pas="0.1"
> ECRAN=`xrandr | grep -i "^.* connected" | cut -f1 -d" "`
> if [ -f /tmp/gamma.tmp ]; then
>g="$(cat /tmp/gamma.tmp)"
>g="$(echo $g+$pas | bc)"
> else
>g="$(echo 1+$pas | bc)"
> fi
> echo $g>/tmp/gamma.tmp
> xrandr --output $ECRAN --gamma $g:$g:$g

> #!/bin/bash
> pas="0.05"
> mini="0.2"
> ECRAN=`xrandr | grep -i "^.* connected" | cut -f1 -d" "`
> if [ -f /tmp/gamma.tmp ]; then
>g="$(cat /tmp/gamma.tmp)"
>[ 1 -eq `echo "$g > $mini" | bc` ] && g="$(echo $g-$pas | bc)"
> else
>g="$(echo 1-$pas | bc)"
> fi
> echo $g>/tmp/gamma.tmp
> xrandr --output $ECRAN --gamma $g:$g:$g

> #!/bin/bash
> 
> ECRAN=`xrandr | grep -i "^.* connected" | cut -f1 -d" "`
> if [ -f /tmp/gamma.tmp ]; then
>   rm /tmp/gamma.tmp
> fi
> xrandr --output $ECRAN --gamma 1:1:1


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Re: [Logica-l] Concurso Público (FIL-UnB) - Área: Lógica

[Aldo Figallo-Orellano]

Eu não sei, mas muitas vezes só pedem titulação de doutor em X área.
Isto permite que os estrangeiros se apresentem, como tem acontecido em
muitas universidades Federais do Brasil.
Mas pedir agora o bacharelado isto é mais complicado. Avaliar um título de
doutor e um processo mais simples que o de avaliar um título de bacharelado.

Por outro lado, a UFBA já aceita as titulações da Unicamp em filosofia,
desde que seja o conteúdo da teses em lógica matemática.

Também na Unicamp no IFCH tiveram é tem lógicos  com formação na matemática.


Em qui., 15 de dez. de 2022 10:54, Joao Marcos 
escreveu:

> > Eu me lembro de um concurso na Bahia, Salvador. Que em duas vagas de
> lógica no departamento de matemática, um dos professores que entrou era
> bacharelado en Filosofia, mas com pesquisa na área lógica algébrica.
>
> Quer me parecer que a Filosofia é talvez uma das áreas mais
> resistentes à *ampliação de perfis*?  A UNICAMP se notabilizou por
> fazer lobby, durante muitos anos, para que a string "... ou Lógica e
> Filosofia da Ciência" fosse inserida nas exigências de diplomação (a
> nível de doutorado) para concursos para a área de "Filosofia".  Creio
> que a UFBA também fez esta ampliação, mais de uma vez, para poder
> conseguir contratar lógicos no departamento de Matemática?  Na UFRN o
> meu diploma de doutorado em Filosofia foi considerado "área afim" em
> um concurso para a área de Computação.  Ninguém nunca me perguntou
> sobre o meu título de *graduação* --- que, por acaso, é o mesmo do
> Newton da Costa.
>
> []s, JM
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Re: [Logica-l] Concurso Público (FIL-UnB) - Área: Lógica

[Aldo Figallo-Orellano]

Eu me lembro de um concurso na Bahia, Salvador. Que em duas vagas de lógica
no departamento de matemática, um dos professores que entrou era
bacharelado en Filosofia, mas com pesquisa na área lógica algébrica.




Em qui., 15 de dez. de 2022 10:31, Joao Marcos 
escreveu:

> Seria ótimo poder ter "comissões de busca", Cassiano!  Muito difícil de
> implementar, contudo, por estas bandas do mundo...
>
>
>> Diploma algum significa nada, no fim das contas. Mas a impressão q eu
>> tenho é q só na filosofia é q incomoda.
>>
>
> Como esta briga é antiga, seria interessante se alguns colegas pudessem
> nos contar aqui sobre as dificuldades criadas por departamentos de
> Matemática brasileiros para tentar de todas as maneiras evitar contratar
> gente graduada em Física ou em Engenharia.  Vejo pouca diferença, em termos
> de "política de exclusão", comparativamente ao caso presentemente em tela,
> relativo à Filosofia, aparentemente defendido aqui como "excepcional".  E
> ainda não entendi de que forma o diploma de GRADUAÇÃO consegue ser tão
> fundamental na definição do perfil de atuação profissional do acadêmico...
> (até consigo vislumbrar um efeito deste diploma na capacitação
> *pedagógica*, mas no resto está mesmo difícil ver "what's in a name")
>
> []s, Joao Marcos
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Re: [Logica-l] Concurso Público (FIL-UnB) - Área: Lógica

[Aldo Figallo-Orellano]

Concordo plenamente com o professor Stern.



Em qua., 14 de dez. de 2022 18:31, Julio Stern 
escreveu:

> Caros:
> Para mim,  Jardim de infancia, Primario, Ginasio, Colegio e Graduacao,
> pertencem a etapas da (pre-) adolescencia, e nao ha a menor justificativa
> em exigir que, para qq funcao academica, um candidato tenha
> colegio tecnico ou graduacao disto ou daquilo ---  eh ridiculo.
> Quanto a pos-graduacao, pode-se obter excelente formacao em
> Filosofia, e deptos de Filosofia, Matematica, Fisica, Computacao,
> Antropologia, Historia, etc., etc., etc.
> Esta balela de exigir diplominha disto ou daquilo tem que acabar.
> O que interessa eh producao academica,  ponto.
> Tudo de bom, ---Julio Stern
>
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> *From:* logica-l@dimap.ufrn.br  on behalf of
> Daniel Durante 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 14, 2022 7:42 PM
> *To:* Cassiano Terra Rodrigues 
> *Cc:* Lista Lógica ; Joao Marcos <
> botoc...@gmail.com>; joaov...@gmail.com ; João
> Daniel Dantas 
> *Subject:* Re: [Logica-l] Concurso Público (FIL-UnB) - Área: Lógica
>
> Oi Cassiano, João Daniel e Colegas,
>
> Concordo com tudo o que você disse, Cassiano, só que eu acho que alguém
> que tem doutorado em filosofia, escolheu dedicar-se à filosofia, e
> demonstrou alguma competência, já que obteve o título. Qual a razão, então,
> de privar essa pessoa da possibilidade de dedicar-se à área que escolheu?
>
> Veja, não podendo fazer inscrição, a pessoa nem consegue a oportunidade de
> demonstrar sua capacidade.
>
> Será que é medo de que quem não fez graduação em filosofia não consiga dar
> aula de graduação em filosofia? Bem, se o medo é esse, a exigência deveria
> ser licenciatura em qualquer área, e não graduação em filosofia. O curso de
> bacharelado em filosofia, por exemplo, não cobra essa habilidade de seus
> alunos.
>
> Isso sem falar que uma das etapas de todos os concursos é dar uma aula em
> nível de graduação. Quem não sabe, não passa.
>
> Já se o medo é, conforme sugeriu João Daniel, que o candidato com outra
> graduação não saiba suficientemente filosofia, já que os pontos do concurso
> são muito especializados em lógica matemática, e o professor vai trabalhar
> em um departamento de filosofia, então, se o medo é esse, que se mude o
> programa do concurso e inclua pontos “filosóficos".
>
> Aquilo que se espera de um candidato deveria estar expresso nos pontos do
> concurso e não em uma exigência específica de graduação. Não consigo ver
> nenhuma preocupação legítima que possa ser motivação para essa exigência de
> graduação na área que não seja melhor atendida mediante uma elaboração
> criteriosa do programa do concurso.
>
> Saudações,
> Daniel.
> -
> Departamento de Filosofia - (UFRN)
> http://danieldurante.weebly.com
>
> On 14 Dec 2022, at 14:05, Cassiano Terra Rodrigues <
> cassiano.te...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Camaradas, bons dias.
> Como se trata de dar opinião,  vou dar a minha, já q sou graduado e pós
> graduado em filosofia, pela UNICAMP, e tive uma formação pífia em lógica,
> pois na minha graduação havia 1 único semestre reservado para a disciplina
> e muito desprezado tanto pelo corpo docente quanto pelo discente. Estou
> falando da década de 1990, qdo a graduação em filosofia na UNICAMP era
> recém nascida. Hoje, creio eu, a situação é outra, tanto por parte da carga
> horária quanto por parte do interesse, e até onde sei muita coisa mudou,
> não apenas na UNICAMP. da qual podem falar com propriedade quem está lá.
> No entanto, para fazer o advogado do diabo e tentar apresentar um contexto
> mais amplo, não posso deixar de lembrar q "reservas de mercado" não surgem
> do nada e não sobrevivem pairando no céu. Relativamente ao concurso da UnB,
> o edital diz "graduação em filosofia", o que me parece incluir licenciatura
> e bacharelado, não? Posso estar enganado, não li o edital todo, mas se for
> realmente isso, a pessoa pode ter bacharelado em matemática, engenharia ou
> direito e licenciatura em filosofia (ou vice-versa) e estaria apta a
> prestar o concurso. Se for isso mesmo, não vejo tanto problema na
> exigência; é restritivo, mas nem tanto. Digo isso pq acho q cabe aqui
> lembrar q a carreira docente nas universidades brasileiras inclui a
> docência, apesar de muita gente não gostar disso. E a realidade no Brasil é
> q há mais cursos de filosofia com professores q são formados em teologia ou
> direito do q em filosofia (a CAPES, até bem pouco tempo,  reunia as áreas
> de Teologia e Filosofia, e a separação não mudou a realidade). Isso
> incapacita os professores a priori? Não creio q seja o caso. Mas é um fato
> a se pensar q nem Aristóteles, nem Galileo enfrentaram o contexto da
> profissionalização q hoje é imprescindível. Diploma não é garantia de
> conhecimento, mas se prescindirmos dos diplomas, então q seja abolida
> também a estrutura disciplinar, departamental e burocrática q sustenta a
> universidade como instituição de produção capitalista de conhecimento
> (lembremos q a 

Re: [Logica-l] Concurso Público (FIL-UnB) - Área: Lógica

[Aldo Figallo-Orellano]

Olá a todes!

Esse edital é para um filósofo que trabalha em lógica matemática. De fato
não parece exigir nenhum tema de filosofia para a prova. Mas se é requerido
que pesquise em lógica matemática e de aulas nesses temas, então ele
deveria ser aberto para todo mundo e que ganhe o melhor e pronto. Se a UnB
precisa de filósofos, isto deveria estar nos temas a avaliar.

Abs.

Aldo


El mié, 14 dic 2022 a la(s) 14:05, Cassiano Terra Rodrigues (
cassiano.te...@gmail.com) escribió:

> Camaradas, bons dias.
> Como se trata de dar opinião,  vou dar a minha, já q sou graduado e pós
> graduado em filosofia, pela UNICAMP, e tive uma formação pífia em lógica,
> pois na minha graduação havia 1 único semestre reservado para a disciplina
> e muito desprezado tanto pelo corpo docente quanto pelo discente. Estou
> falando da década de 1990, qdo a graduação em filosofia na UNICAMP era
> recém nascida. Hoje, creio eu, a situação é outra, tanto por parte da carga
> horária quanto por parte do interesse, e até onde sei muita coisa mudou,
> não apenas na UNICAMP. da qual podem falar com propriedade quem está lá.
> No entanto, para fazer o advogado do diabo e tentar apresentar um contexto
> mais amplo, não posso deixar de lembrar q "reservas de mercado" não surgem
> do nada e não sobrevivem pairando no céu. Relativamente ao concurso da UnB,
> o edital diz "graduação em filosofia", o que me parece incluir licenciatura
> e bacharelado, não? Posso estar enganado, não li o edital todo, mas se for
> realmente isso, a pessoa pode ter bacharelado em matemática, engenharia ou
> direito e licenciatura em filosofia (ou vice-versa) e estaria apta a
> prestar o concurso. Se for isso mesmo, não vejo tanto problema na
> exigência; é restritivo, mas nem tanto. Digo isso pq acho q cabe aqui
> lembrar q a carreira docente nas universidades brasileiras inclui a
> docência, apesar de muita gente não gostar disso. E a realidade no Brasil é
> q há mais cursos de filosofia com professores q são formados em teologia ou
> direito do q em filosofia (a CAPES, até bem pouco tempo,  reunia as áreas
> de Teologia e Filosofia, e a separação não mudou a realidade). Isso
> incapacita os professores a priori? Não creio q seja o caso. Mas é um fato
> a se pensar q nem Aristóteles, nem Galileo enfrentaram o contexto da
> profissionalização q hoje é imprescindível. Diploma não é garantia de
> conhecimento, mas se prescindirmos dos diplomas, então q seja abolida
> também a estrutura disciplinar, departamental e burocrática q sustenta a
> universidade como instituição de produção capitalista de conhecimento
> (lembremos q a "modernização" departamental foi uma imposição do regime
> militar, severamente criticada à época; hj, é praticamente um dado da
> natureza, tamanha a falta de questionamento). Não me parece q temos o q por
> no lugar em nenhum país do mundo e isso nada tem q ver com recusar a
> interdisciplinaridade; inclusive, eu diria q no atual estágio de
> capitalização das universidades no mundo, a interdisciplinaridade é um
> fator desejado para a reprodução do capital. Eu mesmo faço um elogio da
> interdisciplinaridade e sou a favor de concursos abertos à diferentes
> áreas, mas é preciso defender a especificidade da formação ao mesmo tempo,
> não apenas para a pesquisa, mas sobretudo para a docência, pois a
> interdisciplinaridade no conhecimento vem do aprofundamento específico - é
> por aprofundar o conhecimento na sua área q alguém busca o de outras,
> deixem-me dizer assim - é o próprio desenvolvimento das questões q leva à
> necessidade de recorrer a outros saberes, pois conhecer, pesquisar,
> filosofar ou fazer ciência são atividades essencialmente comunicativas. No
> contexto de fragmentação das áreas de conhecimento, a filosofia, coitada,
> parece q perdeu tanto terreno q até hoje sofre a perda da identidade, mas
> tb sofre de falta de respeito por parte de outras áreas, q são
> esquizofrênicas qdo se trata de lidar com a filosofia. Se é possível
> filosofar em alemão, tupi ou mesmo português, e poetas e até donos de
> padaria filosofam, ao mesmo tempo filosofia não é qualquer coisa q basta
> querer fazer para conseguir. A esquizofrenia está aí: ninguém sabe o q é
> filosofia, mas todo mundo quer filosofar e acha q consegue. Longe de mim
> dizer quem pode ou não fazer qq coisa, mas entre a intenção e o gesto vai
> uma distância e não me parece q seja possível muito menos desejável
> escamotear q para não ficarmos presos ao senso comum é fundamental a
> sistematização formal do conhecimento (e isso é um direito q as escolas
> públicas devem garantir aos estudantes, aliás). Ao mesmo tempo, na minha
> avaliação, o insulamento da área de filosofia no Brasil levou a tal
> ignorância e descolamento da realidade q resultaram em elitismos
> vergo

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[CBLX] améliorer le contrast sous la console

[Aldo]

Hello les amis,

ma compagne est "basse vision" et voudrais savoir s'il y a moyen de
clarifier ce que l'on voit affiché en mode console, par ex. en forçant des
caractères plus blancs sur fond noir ou un reverse-screen avec le noir plus
gras que d'hab, ou en faisant afficher des lignes de moins ou plus gros
caractères.
Bref qq'un s'est-il déjà penché sur le sujet ?

Note: elle bosse davantage en mode graphique, mais pour la gestion / apt /
etc elle voudrait bien travailler plus confo que le mode standard proposé
par la distrib.

Toute piste la bienvenue!

Aldo. 

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