[Alsa-user] User lists v forums

2006-05-22 Thread Terry North
Is there any support for a forum as an alternative to the user list, which is such a clumsy, fragmented and disorganised format? To whom should one address a proposal for a forum?

Re: [Alsa-user] just an idea

2006-05-22 Thread Peter Zubaj
On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 07:13 +0200, Ron Smits wrote: There are more and more soundcards like ca0106 (near all new). ALSA should emulate features which card doesn't have (if user want to do this) in software and I don't think .asoundrc is good for average user. Peter Zubaj I am not a

[Alsa-user] Azalia chipset again

2006-05-22 Thread Sven Jacobs
Dear newsgroup, in December 2005 I already wrote a mail (see http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.alsa.user/21211/) to this mailing list. Now with the release of OpenSuSE 10.1 (Kernel 2.6.16.13) the problem unfortunately has not been solved. Can anyone please help me? I'm willing to supply

Re: [Alsa-user] User lists v forums

2006-05-22 Thread alsa-user-admin
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 03:27:54PM +1000, Terry North wrote: Is there any support for a forum as an alternative to the user list, which is such a clumsy, fragmented and disorganised format? It may seem like that to you, but mailing lists have a long history, with excellent tools exist to

Re: [Alsa-user] just an idea

2006-05-22 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 07:30 +0200, Peter Zubaj wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 07:13 +0200, Ron Smits wrote: There are more and more soundcards like ca0106 (near all new). ALSA should emulate features which card doesn't have (if user want to do this) in software and I don't think .asoundrc is

Re: [Alsa-user] User lists v forums

2006-05-22 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 15:27 +1000, Terry North wrote: Is there any support for a forum as an alternative to the user list, which is such a clumsy, fragmented and disorganised format? Huh? I find web forums clumsy, fragmented, and disorganised. Every web forum has a different interface.

Re: [Alsa-user] Azalia chipset again

2006-05-22 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 08:07 +0200, Sven Jacobs wrote: Dear newsgroup, in December 2005 I already wrote a mail (see http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.alsa.user/21211/) to this mailing list. Now with the release of OpenSuSE 10.1 (Kernel 2.6.16.13) the problem unfortunately has not been

Re: [Alsa-user] Azalia chipset again

2006-05-22 Thread Sven Jacobs
Please file this as a bug report (http://bugtrack.alsa-project.org) so it will not get lost. Check for similar reports first. There are some bug reports about mic not working. Since none of them was related to my notebook I was unsure whether the problem is already fixed. So I posted a new

Re: [Alsa-user] User lists v forums

2006-05-22 Thread Matthias Koenig
Terry North [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there any support for a forum as an alternative to the user list, which is such a clumsy, fragmented and disorganised format? Well, the format depends on your mail client ;-) I consider most webforums as broken. Have you ever tried to follow subthreads

Re: [Alsa-user] User lists v forums

2006-05-22 Thread Asbjørn Sæbø
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 03:27:54PM +1000, Terry North wrote: Is there any support for a forum as an alternative to the user list, which is such a clumsy, fragmented and disorganised format? I am completely against it. With a mailing list, all messages get delivered to my inbox, grouped and

Re: [Alsa-user] User lists v forums

2006-05-22 Thread Joel Roth
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 11:09:34AM +0200, Asbj??rn S??b?? wrote: On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 03:27:54PM +1000, Terry North wrote: Is there any support for a forum as an alternative to the user list, which is such a clumsy, fragmented and disorganised format? I am completely against it. With

Re: [Alsa-user] Alsa USB driver install problem...

2006-05-22 Thread Clemens Ladisch
Michael Stempf wrote: I am running Suse 10 (64bit) and am trying to install the ALSA USB drivers so i can get a Plantronics DSP headset running... I received the following error when running ./configure;make;make install any ideas? configure: error: this packages requires a curses

Re: [Alsa-user] Support for Akai MPD16 for linux...

2006-05-22 Thread Clemens Ladisch
Stephen Cameron wrote: --- Clemens Ladisch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please uncomment the #define DUMP_PACKETS in sound/usb/usbmidi.c and show the packets that are logged in the system log. Ok, here's a representative sample of what I get. received packet: [ 0f f8 00 00 ... ] This looks

Re: [Alsa-user] just an idea

2006-05-22 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Lee Revell hat gesagt: // Lee Revell wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 03:07 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: 1) Linux end users appear to happily depend on NDISWRAPPER - Windows drives for their wireless needs; No. Period. It's not going to happen. Linux cannot be at the mercy of

Re: [Alsa-user] User lists v forums

2006-05-22 Thread mcquaid mcquaid
I have to chime in here and say I can't stand mailing lists. Most web forums these days are far from clumsy. Now searching the archive of the mailing lists, now thats clumsy. Off the top of my head, one thing that would be great with a forum is subcategories. Imagine having sections like, pci

[Alsa-user] Forums v user lists

2006-05-22 Thread Terry North
Well - quite an outcry against forums. I eventually give up on lists because it's so difficult to go back and retrieve an old message. There's a constant stream of unrelated messages on different subjects. Once a message has faded out of sight, no one answers it. If you do not get an answer

Re: [Alsa-user] User lists v forums

2006-05-22 Thread brainball
It is indeed so that webforums are more accesible to the avarage user then the mailinglists are. Though I would not go so far as to say that they are a better support solution. The ubuntu forums which are mentioned as an example are also a very good example of bad support. A lot of the suggestions

Re: [Alsa-user] just an idea

2006-05-22 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Mon, 22 May 2006 13:01:46 +0200 Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, Lee Revell hat gesagt: // Lee Revell wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 03:07 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote: 1) Linux end users appear to happily depend on NDISWRAPPER - Windows drives for their wireless

Re: [Alsa-user] just an idea

2006-05-22 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
Lee Revell wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 00:33 +0200, Ron Smits wrote: Evening all A few weeks ago my trusty emul10k1 card died. I loved that card. I especially loved the fact that whatever I threw at it, all my speakers from my 5.1 set would work. Now I have a soundblaster live! 24bits the

Re: [Alsa-user] just an idea

2006-05-22 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
Ron Smits wrote: Speaking as a (rather purist) sound engineer, I'd say that's sort of a contradiction. If the material you listen to was produced for two speakers, then using more than two will in general not deliver great sound. It will either completely blurr the sound image you would have

Re: [Alsa-user] User lists v forums

2006-05-22 Thread Ismael Valladolid Torres
mcquaid mcquaid escribe: I have to chime in here and say I can't stand mailing lists. Most web forums these days are far from clumsy. Now searching the archive of the mailing lists, now thats clumsy. Off the top of my head, one thing that would be great with a forum is subcategories.

Re: [Alsa-user] Azalia chipset again

2006-05-22 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Mon, 22 May 2006 08:07:00 +0200 Sven Jacobs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear newsgroup, in December 2005 I already wrote a mail (see http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.alsa.user/21211/) to this mailing list. Now with the release of OpenSuSE 10.1 (Kernel 2.6.16.13) the problem

Re: [Alsa-user] just an idea

2006-05-22 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Mon, 22 May 2006 03:59:27 -0400, Lee Revell wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 07:30 +0200, Peter Zubaj wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 07:13 +0200, Ron Smits wrote: There are more and more soundcards like ca0106 (near all new). ALSA should emulate features which card doesn't have (if user

Re: [Alsa-user] just an idea

2006-05-22 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Sergei Steshenko hat gesagt: // Sergei Steshenko wrote: On Mon, 22 May 2006 13:01:46 +0200 And besides: In the audio world there are a lot of alternative sound cards which have open source drivers and often even superior performance. There's no reason to buy other hardware. Do

Re: [Alsa-user] just an idea

2006-05-22 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 14:15 +0100, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: The ca0106 is perfectly well supported in Linux. I have the datasheets for it. The problem is that the card is so basic. It has no DSP or hardware mixing. Yeah, sorry, I should have been clearer. What I was trying to say is

[Alsa-user] ALSA works - but no sound (Acer Extensa 6700 Notebook)

2006-05-22 Thread Andreas Burghardt
Hello everyone, I'm a Linux noob ... but finally got everything up - except SOUND! The driver seems to work if I'm right: ---/proc/asound $ cat oss/sndstat Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.11rc2 emulation code) Kernel: Linux bingung 2.6.16-gentoo-r7 #10 SMP PREEMPT Mon May 22 17:11:19 CEST

Re: [Alsa-user] ALSA works - but no sound (Acer Extensa 6700 Notebook)

2006-05-22 Thread Bill Unruh
On Mon, 22 May 2006, Andreas Burghardt wrote: Hello everyone, I'm a Linux noob ... but finally got everything up - except SOUND! The driver seems to work if I'm right: First thing to do is to run alsamixer and to shove all of the sliders up. No, you will never guess which slider actually

Re: [Alsa-user] ALSA works - but no sound (Acer Extensa 6700 Notebook)

2006-05-22 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 19:12 +0200, Andreas Burghardt wrote: Hello everyone, I'm a Linux noob ... but finally got everything up - except SOUND! The driver seems to work if I'm right: ---/proc/asound $ cat oss/sndstat Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.11rc2 emulation code) Kernel:

Re: [Alsa-user] ALSA works - but no sound (Acer Extensa 6700 Notebook)

2006-05-22 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 12:36 -0700, Bill Unruh wrote: On Mon, 22 May 2006, Andreas Burghardt wrote: Hello everyone, I'm a Linux noob ... but finally got everything up - except SOUND! The driver seems to work if I'm right: First thing to do is to run alsamixer and to shove all of

Re: [Alsa-user] ALSA works - but no sound (Acer Extensa 6700 Notebook)

2006-05-22 Thread Lee Revell
On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 22:04 +0200, Haris Peco wrote: Lee, I have tried with 1.0.11 final (and 2.6.16.14) and no sound. I call alsamixer and set all to on and max volume my config cat oss/sndstat cat: oss/sndstat: No such file or directory [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src$ cd /proc/asound/

Re: [Alsa-user] just an idea

2006-05-22 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
Lee Revell wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 14:15 +0100, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: The ca0106 is perfectly well supported in Linux. I have the datasheets for it. The problem is that the card is so basic. It has no DSP or hardware mixing. Yeah, sorry, I should have been clearer. What I was

Re: [Alsa-user] ALSA works - but no sound (Acer Extensa 6700 Notebook)

2006-05-22 Thread Haris Peco
Lee, My motherborad is ASUS. I got sound with model=laptop_eapd in one moment, but it's very bad (sound is bad and stop after call Gnome Volume Control; after reload ti work again) Thanks On Monday 22 May 2006 10:18 pm, Lee Revell wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 22:04 +0200, Haris Peco

Re: [Alsa-user] ALSA works - but no sound (Acer Extensa 6700 Notebook)

2006-05-22 Thread Haris Peco
Lee, Touch some volume manager lost sound (alsamixer ever) Best On Monday 22 May 2006 10:18 pm, Lee Revell wrote: On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 22:04 +0200, Haris Peco wrote: Lee, I have tried with 1.0.11 final (and 2.6.16.14) and no sound. I call alsamixer and set all to on and max