Re: [amanda@gorn.americom.com: AmeriCom AMANDA MAIL REPORT FOR April 9, 2002]

2002-06-23 Thread Uncle George
i guess your next step would be the more detailed logs. How about reviewing the 'amdump.[0-9]' files in the 'logdir' directory defined in amanda.conf ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Thanks for your reply... > > However, the Ecrix V17 tapesize is set to 35000 mbytes and... > >

If estimated disk size > tape size

2002-06-23 Thread Uncle George
will amanda tape out the data that cant fit onto that 40gig tape and then onto the next tape OR will it start over again from the beginning ( as the docs currently say ) and try to fit something that will never fit onto that tape?. If docs are correct, why does amanda bother bother attempting to w

Re: Linux DUMP

2002-05-28 Thread Uncle George
Gee fella's, i didnt mean this to be a slam fest ( or was that a 'dis fest ). I just think, particularly on this list, that there are caveats out there AND FOLKS ON THIS LIST would be the best ones to know about such things. There is one for dump on linux, and it appears that there might be othe

Re: Linux DUMP

2002-05-28 Thread Uncle George
Sorry, thats a general conclusion to most things in life. Is there a situation(s) where DUMP can fail. If yes, why are there no warning labels ( ie the probability of failure is 1 in 1billion ). If NO, than can I see the proof that absolutely refutes Mr. Torvolds statement. /gat Its interesting

Re: Linux DUMP

2002-05-28 Thread Uncle George
does this mean that there was a definitive conclusion? Christoph Scheeder wrote: > > Please not again this discussion...

Re: Linux DUMP

2002-05-27 Thread Uncle George
Ya, but didnt someone post that "DUMP" on linux can fail - if the conditions are right? I think is was suggested that SMP systems can demonstrate the failure sooner. I think that Mr. Torvolds ( sorry is i mis-spelled) made that comment or conclusion. Are there some caveats that need to be added

Re: Any automagic exclusion of filesystems?

2002-05-27 Thread Uncle George
Jens Rohde wrote: > > Hi > I suppose that the disk/fs that will/might be restored to, that is to be recognized by SUN, will be done on a machine that can create the (unofficial) sun partition correctly? > I'm changing the dump-method on some of my filesystems from ufsdump to > gtar (so I can re

Re: Estimates - 7 hour 50mins

2002-04-23 Thread Uncle George
I presume u are using tar?! From My experience, 17gigs of a (few) large files does not take a long time. On the other hand, backing up a large amount of files in a (single) directory takes a long time. The orig tar that came with this (linux) sys readily reached 80% cpu usage. The later tar fixed

Re: dos partion

2002-04-22 Thread Uncle George
u probably want to back it up with tar - i suppose. There is not enough info, but i could guess ur using dump. /gat Tom Beer wrote: > > Hi, > > I want to back a dos partition > on a dual boot machine. I mount > this parition /mnt/dos and the disklist > entry is > > vaio.system ad0s

Re: Questions with chg-zd-mtx

2002-04-22 Thread Uncle George
I think u are looking for the "OFFLINE_BEFORE_UNLOAD=1" setting in chg-zd-mtx Nate DeLong wrote: > > > Ok. It wasn't until I went to BRU's website that I found the following > command (that worked): > > # mt -f /dev/nst0 offline > > Then I can finish up by issuing a " mtx -f /dev/sga unload 1

data timeout on sendbackup phase

2002-04-15 Thread Uncle George
with a dtimeout of 1800 ( seconds, or 30 min ) the 'sendbackup' of /mnt/hdg3 fails with a data timeout. The Client side gets a: = ckup: argument list: gtar --create --file - --directory /mnt/hdg3 --one-file-system --listed-incremental /usr/local/var/amand

Re: [amanda@gorn.americom.com: AmeriCom AMANDA MAIL REPORT FOR April 9, 2002]

2002-04-10 Thread Uncle George
i guess your next step would be the more detailed logs. How about reviewing the 'amdump.[0-9]' files in the 'logdir' directory defined in amanda.conf ? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Thanks for your reply... > > However, the Ecrix V17 tapesize is set to 35000 mbytes and... > >

Re: [amanda@gorn.americom.com: AmeriCom AMANDA MAIL REPORT FOR April 9, 2002]

2002-04-09 Thread Uncle George
i suppose this will do it: > planner: Dump too big for tape: full dump of solo.americom.com:/ delayed. > planner: Dump too big for tape: full dump of gorn.americom.com:/ delayed. a single backup point must be able to fit onto one tape. So if your tape is 4gig, but your partition is 6 gig, th

Re: Only 3 tapes in 7 tape changer gets scaned twice

2002-04-08 Thread Uncle George
There are still some bug-a-boo's. non-amanda tape in slot 5, and loaded in tape drive. no tape in slot 6. There is an amanda tape in slot 7 issue an amcheck confname get -- [Amanda@kodak Amanda]$ amtape confname slot 5 amtape: change

Re: Only 3 tapes in 7 tape changer gets scaned twice

2002-04-08 Thread Uncle George
Interesting, the log file shows that offline_before_unload is set to "0" :-{ Storage Element 5:Full Storage Element 6:Empty Storage Element 7:Full 12:18:14 SLOTLIST -> firstslot set to 1 12:18:14 SLOTLIST -> lastslot set to 7 12:18:14 SLOTLIST -> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 12:18:15 Config i

Re: Only 3 tapes in 7 tape changer gets scaned twice

2002-04-08 Thread Uncle George
This is far short of a million, even if its binary, questions! actually plugged it in, and linked it to ...sh.in rebuilt it ( make, not configure ) , but no install. Just cp'd the chg-zd-mtx to /usr/local/libexec. I know its there bec the old version is ~17k, and newer one is ~37k it does not wo

Re: Only 3 tapes in 7 tape changer gets scaned twice

2002-04-08 Thread Uncle George
It appears that the offline_before_unload switch/feature does not work in this script! Am i :-/ /gat "John R. Jackson" wrote: > > I think the following patch fixes that version. Also, there is a new > copy of the whole thing at: > > ftp://gandalf.cc.purdue.edu/pub/amanda/chg-zd-mtx.sh.in-2

Re: Unloading tapes when task done ?

2002-04-04 Thread Uncle George
DLT's are not flying head technology. They are like 9trk, QIC, i think travan, colorado. The heads do not spin ( i had to think about it ), as the heads move up & down to change tracks. But the DLT 8000, now, also place the heads at an angle to tape direction, as well as going up and down. I dont

Re: sendbackup with dumplevel 0 takes a while to startup :-{

2002-04-04 Thread Uncle George
Problem with this is obtaining a definitive PROOF. you do the amanda process, and you notice that the tape is not spinning, even though you are in the sendbackup phase. You notice that the ethernet switch is not blinking. You can also notice the task(s) that are running. You also notice that the

Re: Unloading tapes when task done ?

2002-04-04 Thread Uncle George
Its sorta like when you go to your kar mechanic. The job is not complete till you put all of your tools away, and cleaned your work area for the next job. That would be the mechanics responsibility, and not the cleaning staff that follows in the evening. But at this moment, some 18hours after ama

sendbackup with dumplevel 0 takes a while to startup :-{

2002-04-03 Thread Uncle George
according to the tar docs, the --listed-incremental will check on the files listed in the file if the incremental file is not empty. I suppose the listed-incremental file got filled during the sendsize proceedure?! During the sendbackup step, tar is apparently going through and checking the list

Re: Unloading tapes when task done ?

2002-04-03 Thread Uncle George
'dont do that'. Jay Lessert wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 08:58:29AM -0500, Uncle George wrote: > > Guess I'm from old school. Older 9trk drives when left on, continually > > have the vacuum on, and under constant tension. Its not healthy for the > >

Re: Unloading tapes when task done ?

2002-04-03 Thread Uncle George
Jay Lessert wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 06:19:19AM -0500, Uncle George wrote: > > It seems like when the whole procedure ( whether its labeling tape(s), > > amchecking tape, or amdumping ) is complete, the tape is left in the > > tape drive in an on-line state.

Re: Unloading tapes when task done ?

2002-04-03 Thread Uncle George
Maybe they can OPT-OUT of the feature, but on a busy site, allowing the customers to access the tape drives, would appear to make good business sense. Particularily when the drives are doing just nothing. /gat btw, what do u mean each operation. Each run? If funny things happen, maybe they should

Re: Unloading tapes when task done ?

2002-04-03 Thread Uncle George
Guess I'm from old school. Older 9trk drives when left on, continually have the vacuum on, and under constant tension. Its not healthy for the tape. Does that happen with a DLT tape, how about the DDS tapes. I would NOT like a "live" tape to be left in the drive for long periods of time. Who know

Re: Unloading tapes when task done ?

2002-04-03 Thread Uncle George
I dunno either, will it work on a 6 drive auto changer/tape library? /gat > Dunno, > my crontab sez: > 0 18 * * 1-5 /volume/amanda/sbin/amdump lto; mt -f /dev/rmt/3h rewoffl > > works like a charm. > >

Unloading tapes when task done ?

2002-04-03 Thread Uncle George
It seems like when the whole procedure ( whether its labeling tape(s), amchecking tape, or amdumping ) is complete, the tape is left in the tape drive in an on-line state. Is there some reason why the tape is not at least rewind-offlined, or for tape changer folks rewoffl/unload'ed back to the ca

Re: DLT

2002-04-03 Thread Uncle George
technically yes. A DLT-IV tape is the tape of choice on a quantum 7000, and quantum 8000. I do not know, however, if the tape that was written with a 7000 series, and later re-used on an 8000 if it would be reliable . I suspect that it should work. But for a definitive answer, give www.quantum.co

Only 3 tapes in 7 tape changer gets scaned twice

2002-04-02 Thread Uncle George
I put 3 tapes in ( from a previous run ) with wrong labels ( ie they look like they are correct but they are not ) What is interesting is that the autochanger goes through tape 1, 2, 3, 1, 2, 3, 1 looking for a label. Slots 1, 2, 3 have tapes. Slots 4, 5 , 6 , 7 do not have any tapes. changer is

Re: If estimated disk size > tape size

2002-03-30 Thread Uncle George
runtapes set to 7 INITIAL SCHEDULE (size 94289500): lx /mnt/hde4 pri 1 lev 0 size 69069340 lx /mnt/hdg3 pri 1 lev 0 size 6060890 lx /mnt/hdg2 pri 1 lev 0 size 5286010 lx /mnt/hdg4 pri 1 lev 0 size 5186500 lx /mnt/sdb2 pri 1 lev 0 size 4156550 lx / pri 1 lev 0 size 1962280 lx /mnt/sd

Re: If estimated disk size > tape size

2002-03-30 Thread Uncle George
Hummm, DLT tape set to 3mb ( 2 + .5 compression ) partition on /mnt/hde4 is 69578056k ( via df ) /mnt/hde4 'sendsizes' to 70727004160 ( 66GB, 4.6MB/s ) at 5am it tried to fit the (/mnt/hde4) partition onto the tail end of the tape & EOT'd. At 8:30 it tried again onto the next tape. At 9a

If estimated disk size > tape size

2002-03-30 Thread Uncle George
will amanda tape out the data that cant fit onto that 40gig tape and then onto the next tape OR will it start over again from the beginning ( as the docs currently say ) and try to fit something that will never fit onto that tape?. If docs are correct, why does amanda bother bother attempting to w

Re: i think that there is a (small) error in amanda(8) docs

2002-03-29 Thread Uncle George
Generally, u try the program. After a week of fustration, maybe then you think that you should have RTFM first. But so far neither method is doing me tooo mcchhh ggg. One might say that I can tar out the 69gb much faster with a simpler tar. Eventually i will fin

Re: sendsize appears to rerun disklist twice?

2002-03-29 Thread Uncle George
thats interesting, considering that i have "dumpcycle 0 " and "dumpcycle 0" in dumptype global. Is there a way to stop the second scan, third, 4th, and so on ? "John R. Jackson" wrote: > > >I waited 4 hours for /mnt/hde4 to complete the first run of sendsize. > >When it completes it appears to r

sendsize appears to rerun disklist twice?

2002-03-29 Thread Uncle George
I waited 4 hours for /mnt/hde4 to complete the first run of sendsize. When it completes it appears to run the sendsize again on /mnt/hde4. This would take another 4 hours, and i'm wondering why? tar is 1.13.19 btw the "lx_mnt_hde4_0.new" does exist, but not just plain "lx_mnt_hde4_0" sendsize: ge

i think that there is a (small) error in amanda(8) docs

2002-03-29 Thread Uncle George
shouldn';t the comment "DLT4000 tape drives with Compact-IV tapes" be placed after the DLT4000-III tapetype ? define tapetype DLT4000-III { comment "DLT4000 tape drives with Compact-III tapes" length 12500 mbytes # 10 Gig tapes with some

i asked it to change label of tape in slot 6, but it erased slot 1 instead! :-{

2002-03-29 Thread Uncle George
There is no tape in slot 6, so I suppose ANY other tape would do . I suppose this is a bug. [Amanda@kodak sbin]$ for i in 6; do ./amlabel -f confname GatWorksSet16$i slot $i; done labeling tape in slot 1 (/dev/nst0): rewinding, reading label GatWorksSet161, tape is active rewinding, writing lab

Re: what does etimeout really represent

2002-03-25 Thread Uncle George
Sorry, for every NEW run, i would like a set of new logs just for that run just so that i know are from just that run. from my 'novice' eyes, its just to much data to figure out where the previous run completed, and the new one began. But if i ( ever ) get a complete backup ( after setting it for

Re: what does etimeout really represent

2002-03-25 Thread Uncle George
Then my current impression is that the feature does not work - exactly as stated. There are a few file systems on one 'errant' system, where one filesystem has taken over 224 minuts( wall time ) to complete just the estimate. I had changed the time to be some 3600 ( an hour ) which, if one beleiv

what does etimeout really represent

2002-03-25 Thread Uncle George
does etimeout specify the time that "sendsize" will use to estimate the time needed to do 'its thing', or does it represent the sum total of time ( estimate & dumping ) of a filesystem ?

[Fwd: it did not complete, it took over 1.3 days to run out of 4 tapes!( 80gig uncompressed!)

2002-03-24 Thread Uncle George
--- Begin Message --- apparently it did not complete all filesystems. some appear to be network reliability problems. ( host reset by peer ) some appear to be that the server run out of time [ data timeout ] some appear to be because is cant open a jibberish filename !. are there things i can