Re: Speccing a large amanda install (was: Re: How's amanda feeling these days?)

2020-12-01 Thread Dave Sherohman
After some off-list discussions, we've set up a meeting for this Thursday to talk about the six-month retention request. The IT group leader has said he's fine with "daily for a week, weekly for a month, and monthly for two months", but I'm thinking a 14-day dumpcycle and keep it for a month would

Speccing a large amanda install (was: Re: How's amanda feeling these days?)

2020-11-24 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 10:32:18PM -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote: > I did reply to the original message, but looking back it was addressed > to you rather than the list. In case it was overlooked, here were my > regarding space: I saw it, just absent-minded about replying sometimes... Good that you r

Speccing a large amanda install (was: Re: How's amanda feeling these days?)

2020-11-24 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 11:28:37PM +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 16.11.20 um 14:25 schrieb Dave Sherohman: > I am a bit surprised by the fact you haven't yet received any reply on > the list so far (maybe per direct/private reply). I received one accidentally-off-list reply, as already m

Re: How's amanda feeling these days?

2020-11-23 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Mon, Nov 16, 2020 at 07:25:41AM -0600, Dave Sherohman wrote: > Hello, again! > > You may recall my earlier question to the list, included below. I've > now talked with my other coworkers who work with servers and they've > agreed to go with amanda for our new backup system. > > Now I'd like t

Re: How's amanda feeling these days?

2020-11-23 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 16.11.20 um 14:25 schrieb Dave Sherohman: > Hello, again! > > You may recall my earlier question to the list, included below. I've > now talked with my other coworkers who work with servers and they've > agreed to go with amanda for our new backup system. > > Now I'd like to get some hardware

Re: How's amanda feeling these days?

2020-11-20 Thread Dave Sherohman
Hello, again! You may recall my earlier question to the list, included below. I've now talked with my other coworkers who work with servers and they've agreed to go with amanda for our new backup system. Now I'd like to get some hardware recommendations. I'm mostly unsure about what we'll need

Re: How's amanda feeling these days?

2020-09-29 Thread Diego Zuccato
Il 30/09/20 05:10, Olivier ha scritto: > But if you don't use RAID, you can double the number of backups you are > keeping, that includes older versions. That is a risk calculation > between having secure backups and loosing the backups data as same time > as the primary data. We are using a 3U en

Re: How's amanda feeling these days?

2020-09-29 Thread Olivier
Dave Sherohman writes: > On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 10:55:51AM +0700, Olivier wrote: >> I think that independant disks is better than any RAID thing that >> would either waste some storage, or render the array unusable if any >> one disk gets faulty. > > If we go disk-based/vtape for storage, I'd be

Re: How's amanda feeling these days?

2020-09-29 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 29 Sep 2020 07:34:08 -0500 Dave Sherohman wrote: > I've got a couple developers who are backing up their workstations via > rsync to the FreeNAS server, which sounds like basically the same > concept. They seem happy with it, although we've never needed to do a > restore on any of that d

Re: How's amanda feeling these days?

2020-09-29 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 10:55:51AM +0700, Olivier wrote: > nice thing part of Amanda is written in Perl and integrates well with > some admin scripts here and there). Quite nice indeed! I wasn't aware of that detail, but our IT group is very Perl-centric, so good to know we're well-situated to ma

Re: How's amanda feeling these days?

2020-09-28 Thread Olivier
Dave, > So let's see what the current users have to say. Is a new amanda > installation still a sane choice in 2020? I cannot speak for a new installation as I have been using Amanda for over 2 decades. But for backing up servers, a mix of unixes, I find it very reliable and dependable. I have

Re: How's amanda feeling these days?

2020-09-28 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 25.09.20 um 15:19 schrieb Dave Sherohman: > If amanda isn't a reasonable choice for that scenario, what would be a > better option? This thread contains numerous valuable and positive replies already, I am a bit late and decide to reply to the original posting as well. It's correct and sad th

Re: How's amanda feeling these days?

2020-09-27 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 11:10:14AM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > So this is a "green field" installation as far as backup gear goes: > backup servers, tape drives or hard drives for vtapes, network > enhancements, etc., as needed. I have no doubt this crew can advise you > well on all of that. Go

Re: How's amanda feeling these days?

2020-09-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 26 September 2020 13:10:14 Charles Curley wrote: > On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 07:54:46 -0500 > > Dave Sherohman wrote: > > But now we want to terminate th[e law school] contract and > > start handling backups ourselves, within the library's own IT group, > > which will remove both TSM and th

Re: How's amanda feeling these days?

2020-09-26 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 07:54:46 -0500 Dave Sherohman wrote: > But now we want to terminate th[e law school] contract and > start handling backups ourselves, within the library's own IT group, > which will remove both TSM and the law school from the picture > entirely. So this is a "green field" ins

Re: How's amanda feeling these days?

2020-09-26 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 26 September 2020 08:54:46 Dave Sherohman wrote: > On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 01:35:51PM +0100, J Martin Rushton wrote: > > If your law school is using TSM, then the only use for Amanda would > > be to back up the small machines onto the central server, and then > > TSM can migrate (HSM)

Re: How's amanda feeling these days?

2020-09-26 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 01:35:51PM +0100, J Martin Rushton wrote: > If your law school is using TSM, then the only use for Amanda would be to > back up the small machines onto the central server, and then TSM can migrate > (HSM) or backup to tape/slow disk. Guess my overview of the history and org

Re: How's amanda feeling these days?

2020-09-26 Thread J Martin Rushton
On 26/09/2020 12:58, Dave Sherohman wrote: But I don't really know anything about the hardware or configuration that the law school is using, only that their chosen software is Tivoli Storage Manager. TSM (now called Spectrum Protect) is IBM's proprietory storage handling system. Typicall

Re: How's amanda feeling these days?

2020-09-26 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 08:37:52AM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > I think so. You have a lot more machines to herd than I do, but I don't > think that's an impediment. Agreed. I have absolutely no doubt that amanda can handle extremely large installations, provided that the network can deliver th

Re: How's amanda feeling these days?

2020-09-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 September 2020 14:25:16 Rüdiger Kessel wrote: > Dear Gene, > > you mentioned that you use a dumpcycle of 58 days with incremental > backups in between. > > I use a bit longer dumpcycle and I have problems when I use the > amrecover tool. > > The problem is connected with the fact that

RE: How's amanda feeling these days?

2020-09-25 Thread Cuttler, Brian R (HEALTH)
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Re: How's amanda feeling these days?

2020-09-25 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
I'm running Amanda 3.5.1 on 3 backup servers in 3 different departments. One of them is on the small side and still running LTO6 in an Overland tape library with 1 drive. The other 2 are sizeable in terms of data, but small in terms of servers. Roughly half a dozen Linux Ubuntu 16.04 servers each

Re: How's amanda feeling these days?

2020-09-25 Thread Debra S Baddorf
I've had an amanda “world” running for 15 or 20 years. I have 33 unix nodes, of varying flavors of unix. They play together nicely, though you can’t unpack a file on a different flavor of unix. I think you can with TAR rather than DUMP. And, since many of my disks are big, I’m using a lot of

Re: How's amanda feeling these days?

2020-09-25 Thread wls
I suggest amtape to vtl and amvault fulls periodically to tape for offsite storage. Less physical wear and tear. On September 25, 2020 10:37:52 AM EDT, Charles Curley wrote: >On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:19:58 -0500 >Dave Sherohman wrote: > >> So let's see what the current users have to say. Is a

Re: How's amanda feeling these days?

2020-09-25 Thread Charles Curley
On Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:19:58 -0500 Dave Sherohman wrote: > So let's see what the current users have to say. Is a new amanda > installation still a sane choice in 2020? I think so. You have a lot more machines to herd than I do, but I don't think that's an impediment. Add a few machines at a tim

Re: How's amanda feeling these days?

2020-09-25 Thread Robert Heller
At Fri, 25 Sep 2020 08:19:58 -0500 Dave Sherohman wrote: > > Howdy, all! > > We've recently had some problems at work with our backup provider, so my > boss has come to me and requested a recommendation for bringing backups > in-house. I've previously adminned a small amanda installation back

Re: How's amanda feeling these days?

2020-09-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 September 2020 09:19:58 Dave Sherohman wrote: > Howdy, all! > > We've recently had some problems at work with our backup provider, so > my boss has come to me and requested a recommendation for bringing > backups in-house. I've previously adminned a small amanda > installation back i

How's amanda feeling these days?

2020-09-25 Thread Dave Sherohman
Howdy, all! We've recently had some problems at work with our backup provider, so my boss has come to me and requested a recommendation for bringing backups in-house. I've previously adminned a small amanda installation back in 2000-2006 and I quite liked the system and how it works, so that was