Re: [AMRadio] Ranger driving SB220

2008-02-12 Thread Jim Wilhite
>It is also easy for the modulator to over modulate because it doesn't need to deliver as much current. John, WA5BXO This is probably the main cause of trouble using an amp with a driver as described. I constantly hear crappy audio on the bands with the configuration. Many do not underst

RE: [AMRadio] Ranger driving SB220

2008-02-12 Thread John Coleman
im Wilhite Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 8:16 AM To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Ranger driving SB220 I see this discussion every so often and wonder something. If you lower the plate voltage or current the final (s) draw, what is happening to the imp

Re: [AMRadio] Ranger driving SB220

2008-02-12 Thread Jim Wilhite
I see this discussion every so often and wonder something. If you lower the plate voltage or current the final (s) draw, what is happening to the impedance the modulation transformer sees? The design of a class C final looks at the plate load impedance of the final. If you alter that, the mo

RE: [AMRadio] Ranger driving SB220

2008-02-11 Thread W6OM
D] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 7:48 PM To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Ranger driving SB220 Ron, Yes, the VKII uses a pair of 6146s and it has a 6AQ5 adjustable screen clamp tube. I see no reason to wast power with an attenuator and there is a

RE: [AMRadio] Ranger driving SB220

2008-02-11 Thread doxemf
Ron, Yes, the VKII uses a pair of 6146s and it has a 6AQ5 adjustable screen clamp tube. I see no reason to wast power with an attenuator and there is a sweet spot in the final current thru the mod iron that requires a less than full rated final current to avoid saturation. It seems to me that

Re: [AMRadio] Ranger driving SB220

2008-02-11 Thread Geoff/W5OMR
Patrick Thompson wrote: How did you go about getting the RF drive from the Ranger down to a level usable by the SB220? [...] I thought about a homemade pad but that's a lot of heat to throw away. Maybe a 3db pad and turn the drive down a little? AE5AW/Bill, in San Angelo, TX, inserted a

RE: [AMRadio] Ranger driving SB220

2008-02-11 Thread W6OM
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 7:22 PM To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Ranger driving SB220 Hello, Would this one knob screen control technique also be a workable option for a VKII, etc, after proper loading/setup in

RE: [AMRadio] Ranger driving SB220

2008-02-11 Thread Patrick Thompson
l. Thanks! Pat wa4tuk -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Blau Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 9:39 PM To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Ranger driving SB220 It's a good place to start. Here&#

RE: [AMRadio] Ranger driving SB220

2008-02-11 Thread doxemf
Hello, Would this one knob screen control technique also be a workable option for a VKII, etc, after proper loading/setup into a dummy load? Bill, KB3DKS -Original Message- From: W6OM Pat Leave the mic gain alone, just crank down the screen voltage via a pot inside. I can crank min

Re: [AMRadio] Ranger driving SB220

2008-02-11 Thread Gary Blau
It's a good place to start. Here's some more info: http://www.w3am.com/ranger.html You don't have to do anything other than the screen mod if you don't want to. This is just one option for you. g Patrick Thompson wrote: Thanks to all who replied. If I go the route of lowering screen voltage

RE: [AMRadio] Ranger driving SB220

2008-02-11 Thread W6OM
www.qsl.net/w6om -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patrick Thompson Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 6:20 PM To: 'Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service' Subject: RE: [AMRadio] Ranger driving SB220 Thanks to all who replied. I

RE: [AMRadio] Ranger driving SB220

2008-02-11 Thread Patrick Thompson
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Blau Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 7:45 PM To: Discussion of AM Radio in the Amateur Service Subject: Re: [AMRadio] Ranger driving SB220 You can lower the power in a couple different ways. Lower the screen, run the PA on the low HV, attenuate the RF, etc

RE: [AMRadio] Ranger driving SB220

2008-02-11 Thread W6OM
of AM Radio in the Amateur Service' Subject: [AMRadio] Ranger driving SB220 How did you go about getting the RF drive from the Ranger down to a level usable by the SB220? I'm thinking about something similar to get to the 200-250 watt carrier level (or 800 to 1000 pep AM). I'm guess

Re: [AMRadio] Ranger driving SB220

2008-02-11 Thread Peter Markavage
There was a great article in Electric Radio (Issue 139, Dec 2000, page 25) on modifying the Ranger screen voltage with a variable control, and even access from the front panel, without drilling any holes in the front panel. Works great. Pete, wa2cwa On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:44:53 -0500 Gary Blau <

Re: [AMRadio] Ranger driving SB220

2008-02-11 Thread Gary Blau
You can lower the power in a couple different ways. Lower the screen, run the PA on the low HV, attenuate the RF, etc. If you're driving an amp there's no advantage to running full power in the Ranger. In fact, you give up a lot of potential positive peak modulation capability, if that's impor

[AMRadio] Ranger driving SB220

2008-02-11 Thread Patrick Thompson
How did you go about getting the RF drive from the Ranger down to a level usable by the SB220? I'm thinking about something similar to get to the 200-250 watt carrier level (or 800 to 1000 pep AM). I'm guessing the amp won't need much more than 10-15 watts drive (40 to 60 watts pep AM) leaving a li