[amsat-bb] Re: FT-847 - relating dbm to S units

2010-02-09 Thread Phil
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 04:11:55 pm Edward Cole wrote: Thank you Ed and David for your detailed replies. I knew that the S meter under read but I was unsure of by how much. A beacon or a repeater would make a good signal source. Unfortunately, the nearest UHF repeater is around 1000 Km from here an

[amsat-bb] Re: Good Night, Loran

2010-02-09 Thread Art McBride
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[amsat-bb] Re: Good Night, Loran

2010-02-09 Thread Dave Guimont
>Minor clarification, Loran-A was used from WW-2 until it was turned >off in the 1980's I believe. The current system, Loran-C was in >commercial use starting in the late 70's. When Loran-C was used for >returning to a previously stored waypoint, it's accuracy was almost >as good as current G

[amsat-bb] Re: New Lindy's QRV

2010-02-09 Thread Greg D.
Hi Ed, Regarding power used: I was running 25w (minus a few dB of coax losses) into an 8 element beam (vertically polarized), and getting an S5 return on a 2x15 circular beam, with a mediocre preamp. I forget if it was RHCP or LHCP on the downlink at the time. I don't have a power meter, but

[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Signal Strength Post Flip

2010-02-09 Thread Auke de Jong, VE6PWN
Another observation from DO33 (yo Bernhardt), I've always had trouble hearing this bird well enough to work from my home station, as I have my antennas at fixed elevation, and manually-rotated via channelmaster... AO-51 has been consistently easier to hear AFTER it has passed overhead on a

[amsat-bb] Good Night, Loran

2010-02-09 Thread Howie DeFelice
Minor clarification, Loran-A was used from WW-2 until it was turned off in the 1980's I believe. The current system, Loran-C was in commercial use starting in the late 70's. When Loran-C was used for returning to a previously stored waypoint, it's accuracy was almost as good as current GPS and

[amsat-bb] Re: New Lindy's QRV

2010-02-09 Thread Joel Black
Yes, I agree with that, Clint. I have been looking at Jerry Brown's, K5OE, archived pages available here: http://web.archive.org/web/2824013151/http://members.aol.com/k5oe/ After looking at it, I think I like the radiation patterns of the TPM II's better than any other LEO antenna I've seen

[amsat-bb] Re: Good Night, Loran

2010-02-09 Thread Daniel Kekez
On 2010-02-09 10:52 , tosca...@umn.edu wrote: > Does the US government NOT have any plans to launch any more GPS satellites? There will be more but of somewhat different design with better capabilities for terrestrial use. (Although potentially worse signals *above* the constellation, which is a

[amsat-bb] Re: John's take on AO-51

2010-02-09 Thread Robert Smith
Aloha All In general, Hawaii is a very quiet place. Most passes of AO-51 fly by with no usage. Accordingly, signal strength and quality are usually quite discernable (assuming no anomalous QRM) when QSOs do occur. The initial reorientation of AO-51 was very apparent here. In general, the bir

[amsat-bb] Down East Microwave 2355LYK 1.2GHz 55 elements loop antenna

2010-02-09 Thread Juan Antonio Fernandez
Have anyboy worked with this 55 elements loop antena for 1.2 GHz. What about its mechanical and electric features? Juan Antonio EA4CYQ ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to suppo

[amsat-bb] Re: New Lindy's QRV

2010-02-09 Thread Edward Cole
One more update: I tried pass #744, this morning and copied a big round-table of several west-coast stations, but was unable to break in. My downlink was as loud as them, so...? I had one call to my CQ right at LOS and could not complete, sorry! Bear with me as I am getting reaquainted with

[amsat-bb] Recording downlink audio...

2010-02-09 Thread Elan Portnoy
Also, would like to thank John for recording and posting downlink audio files. They're not only useful in evaluating signal quality, they're fun to listen to when I can't be in the shack! Funny to hear myself mangle the call of the last station--still half-asleep--hi hi. Didn't hear you at al

[amsat-bb] Re: Good Night, Loran

2010-02-09 Thread Edward Cole
I do not know the exact answer, but the Iridium satellites (constellation of 256?) each were supposed to cost $5M/each. But any of you who actually have used Loran-C, know that is a far cry from the accuracy or reliability (due to LF propagation) as GPS. Ed PS: I used to install them, but you co

[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Signal Strength Post Flip

2010-02-09 Thread Elan Portnoy
You are on-the-nose John. Currently, I AOS and LOS AO-51 at higher elevations than before the initial flip. During high passes, the downlink is no longer DFQ or is as strong as before, and there are more fades (was better with leaves still on the trees!). I have questioned my antenna calibrati

[amsat-bb] Re: New Lindy's QRV

2010-02-09 Thread Edward Cole
At 05:23 AM 2/9/2010, Bill Dzurilla wrote: >Dave, > >I would be suspicious of the construction. I can get a few minutes >of good copy from AO-51 on a high pass with just a rubber duck on an >HT. If you do get a preamp, the run between the antenna and the >preamp is critical, so if possible kee

[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Signal Strength Post Flip

2010-02-09 Thread Mark L. Hammond
Thanks for the reports. Again, I encourage you all to research the power levels OUT at the comparison times. That has to at least be considered in the discussion. For example: Power is "watts" out Date 435.150 435.300 Battery V Before flips 2009-02-09 19:

[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Signal Strength Post Flip

2010-02-09 Thread B J
--- On Tue, 2/9/10, John Papay wrote: > From: John Papay > Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 Signal Strength Post Flip > To: amsat-bb@amsat.org > Received: Tuesday, February 9, 2010, 8:47 AM > It has been about a month now > since AO-51 was commanded back to > its normal orientation. But many are r

[amsat-bb] Re: Good Night, Loran

2010-02-09 Thread Gordon JC Pearce
On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 09:52 -0600, tosca...@umn.edu wrote: > Does the US government NOT have any plans to launch any more GPS satellites? Nope. Keep cheering on the Iranians and their space-flight programme. They'll be the only game in town ten years from now, if things keep on like this. You m

[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Signal Strength Post Flip

2010-02-09 Thread Mark L. Hammond
By the way, John--a handy place to spot check power levels at various dates is here: http://www.amsat.dk/oz7sat/tlm/view.php?sat=ao51 Just put in the dates you want to see. And the full telemetry archive is on the AMSAT FTP server, so folks can grab, decode, and and analyze anything they want,

[amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Signal Strength Post Flip

2010-02-09 Thread Mark L. Hammond
Hi John, Have you looked to see what power levels we were running at the comparision times? Maybe that's part of it... The orientation should be "back to the way it was" before the flip experiments. What might be differnet is power budget and therefore signal strength. Anyhow, it's good to ask

[amsat-bb] Re: New Lindy's QRV

2010-02-09 Thread Mark Spencer
I can consistently copy the beacons on FO 29 and HO 68 down to the horizion using a larsen 2/70 mobile antenna with the larsen radial kit.   The feed line is approx 60 feet of Belden 9913F.    I typically connect the antenna to a comet duplexer to my mirage UHF amplifer which has a gasfet preamp

[amsat-bb] Re: Good Night, Loran

2010-02-09 Thread tosca005
Does the US government NOT have any plans to launch any more GPS satellites? Does the existing array of satellites in orbit have any which are not in active use, i.e. reserved for future use as backups? As I recall, each satellite has two different atomic standards on board, one is on and the o

[amsat-bb] AO-51 Signal Strength Post Flip

2010-02-09 Thread John Papay
It has been about a month now since AO-51 was commanded back to its normal orientation. But many are reporting that they are having more trouble hearing it now than they did before the first re-orientation. It does seem to me that some stations that usually hear very well are not hearing that we

[amsat-bb] Re: Good Night, Loran

2010-02-09 Thread w6zkh
In our aging fleet of GPS Satellites, which are on the brink of dying, and no replacements in sight, wonder what will happen then?? Everyone dont throw away your compass and paper maps. $190 mill is a small price to pay for something that will work, compared to what other $$ the govt throws away

[amsat-bb] Re: New Lindy's QRV

2010-02-09 Thread Bill Dzurilla
Dave, I would be suspicious of the construction. I can get a few minutes of good copy from AO-51 on a high pass with just a rubber duck on an HT. If you do get a preamp, the run between the antenna and the preamp is critical, so if possible keep it short and use good coax. Ed seems to be hav

[amsat-bb] Good Night, Loran

2010-02-09 Thread Clint BRADFORD
In a series of small ceremonies, the U.S. Coast Guard on Monday shut down Loran-C, a navigation and timing system that has guided mariners and aviators since World War II. The death blow came last May when President Obama called the system obsolete, saying it is no longer needed in an age in w

[amsat-bb] Re: Tracking - End-stop Problem

2010-02-09 Thread Clive Wallis
Hi, Many thanks to everyone who replied to my request for information. I thought that SatPC32 might offer a solution with the rotator set up for 450/90 operation. AFAIK my tracking program (SatExplorer) offers an option to flip the elevation, to avoid traversing round the end-stop, but I didn't

[amsat-bb] Re: New Lindy's QRV

2010-02-09 Thread Clint Bradford
>> ... (Alaska ... a little inclement weather) ... The preamp makes the UHF >> Lindy work nearly equal with the high-price stuff...and much simpler ... I obviously didn't take your inclement weather conditions into account! A little spoiled down here in Southern California when it comes to weat