[amsat-bb] Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations of Interest

2012-05-31 Thread Bob- W7LRD
for the sake of conversation what would a link budget look like for a transponder on the moon?  Say for L & S band, get out the old AO-40 gear! (sobsob).  Still rebuilding all antenna systems, includes digging holes, mixing concrete, welding, gin poles, trying to convince  xyl etc. 73 Bob W7

[amsat-bb] Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations of Interest

2012-05-31 Thread i8cvs
Hi Stefan, VE4NSA It does not make sense to put a transponder on the Moon just for the simple reason that it's much more, simple and cheap to put it into earth orbit. 73" de i8CVS Domenico - Original Message - From: "Stefan Wagener" To: "Amsat - BBs" Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 4:06

[amsat-bb] Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations of Interest

2012-05-31 Thread Stefan Wagener
Yes Domenico, You are correct. However, that particular ESA proposal is not about putting it into orbit. It is an opportunity to have a payload placed on the moon. Once ESA has a proposal to put something into orbit, by all means. Hope this helps, Stefan On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 9:31 AM, i8cvs

[amsat-bb] Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations of Interest

2012-05-31 Thread i8cvs
Hi Stefan, VE4NSA I believe that ESA is interested to have a payload placed on the moon only to make important and particular experiments that are impossible to manage to put something into earth orbit. The capability of an Amateur Radio transponder to communicate between us or for educational

[amsat-bb] Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations of Interest

2012-05-31 Thread Stefan Wagener
Thanks Domenico, Yes, ESA is interested in a moon payload and some of the space agencies including CSA (the agency I work with) has some interest. To simple propose a transponder would not fly. However, a transponder/transmitter that would allow a university experiment to transmit data back and be

[amsat-bb] Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations of Interest

2012-06-02 Thread Robert G Oler
It is to bad that the concentration couldn't be on something clever that would earn us some mass for a transponder. Like say some sort antenna that is deplorable and would massively increase the data rates.. Like an inflatable. Robert WB5MZO Sent from my iPad On May 31, 2012, at 12:46, "i8cvs"

[amsat-bb] Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations of Interest

2012-06-02 Thread pughkeithd
Do you really mean a "deplorable" antenna? 73 - Keith, W5IU -Original Message- From: Robert G Oler To: i8cvs Cc: Amsat - BBs Sent: Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:44 pm Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations of Interest It is to bad that the con

[amsat-bb] Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations of Interest

2012-06-02 Thread Robert G Oler
able" antenna? > > 73 - Keith, W5IU > -Original Message- > From: Robert G Oler > To: i8cvs > Cc: Amsat - BBs > Sent: Sat, Jun 2, 2012 1:44 pm > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: European Lunar Lander - Call for Declarations of > Interest > > It is to bad tha