Re: [android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 2:24 PM, fadden wrote: > Running naked through the Google campus with your hair on fire and "I ANDEROID MARKT" tattooed across your back would have gotten a *lot* of > attention from a *lot* of googlers. > Well there's an idea ... >:D > I'm not sure that's the best metr

Re: [android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

> Running naked through the Google campus with your hair on fire and "I > *lot* of attention from a *lot* of googlers. I'm not sure that's the > best metric for success. I'm sure more than one of us would be willing to do that if it meant more support... On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 1:24 PM, fadden

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

On Mar 3, 6:52 am, TreKing wrote: > My point is simply this: getting actual support or answers for legitimate > issues relating to the Android Market is nigh impossible - regardless of the > channel one goes through. Meanwhile a thread with the threat of being > spammed gets the attention of 4 Goo

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

On Mar 3, 11:55 am, TreKing wrote: > On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) < > > cor...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Can anyone name an app that's been removed from the market that > > didn't deserve it? > > Take your > pick:http://www.google.com/support/androidmarket/bin/sear

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> > > Hmm. Lots of them. When Mars comes around next time for its closest > pass, we'll have to send a message to the market team about that. > > Um, I hate to burst your bubble, but life hasn't been discovered on Mars yet. For all we know, the Market team is stationed on Europa or Titan. Perhaps

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

> > Take your > pick:http://www.google.com/support/androidmarket/bin/search.py?ctx=en%3Ase... > Hmm. Lots of them. When Mars comes around next time for its closest pass, we'll have to send a message to the market team about that. -John Coryat -- You received this message because you are subsc

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On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) < cor...@gmail.com> wrote: > Can anyone name an app that's been removed from the market that > didn't deserve it? > Take your pick: http://www.google.com/support/androidmarket/bin/search.py?ctx=en%3Asearchbox&forum=1&query=app+suspend

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

Can anyone name an app that's been removed from the market that didn't deserve it? As far as I know, every one of them has been asking for it. Malware, spamware and Crapps that clearly are violating the terms are all that's been removed. -John Coryat -- You received this message because you are

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

Yes, we really, REALLY need that "meaningful interaction with Google about the market". What we have had to date is more like a parody of really bad customer service (think Lily Tomlin and the Phone Company). After all: even if we disagree with much of Rich's Rant, there is one thing we should all

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Agree with everything you said TreKing. While I really appreciate the effort Dianne shows towards this list, I wish there were more Android developers putting the same effort out in other areas of the Android ecosystem. Having such insight into the Market would be a very welcome addition. -- Chr

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On Thu, Mar 3, 2011 at 12:12 AM, Dianne Hackborn wrote: > Do I not count as a response from Google? > Of course! Probably more so than most. However, you didn't respond to the thread I linked to, so my statement still stands. > Oh you mean a response answering question about Market? As I sai

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

Support specialists are not developers. There is also a "support forum" for Android and Google Mobile, but I meant like it is here. Where developers are communicating on equal grounds, not Resuest Support/Wait For support/Get or Not Get support. On 3 мар, 11:40, Peter Sinnott wrote: > Doeshttp://

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

Does http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market count? On Mar 3, 9:18 am, "JAlexoid (Aleksandr Panzin)" wrote: > Is there a list for Market similar to this one? > > On 3 мар, 08:12, Dianne Hackborn wrote: > > > Do I not count as a response from Google? > > > Oh you mean a response answ

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

Is there a list for Market similar to this one? On 3 мар, 08:12, Dianne Hackborn wrote: > Do I not count as a response from Google? > > Oh you mean a response answering question about Market?  As I said there, > nobody from the Market team is on this list, so you shouldn't be surprised > by not g

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

Yes it was really funny. But "there is a grain of joke in every joke". On 2 мар, 23:38, TreKing wrote: > 2011/3/2 JAlexoid (Aleksandr Panzin) > > > > H  who do I really hate? > > Ironically, the fact that you have written this, makes it more obvious what > > a nightmare Android Marke

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Do I not count as a response from Google? Oh you mean a response answering question about Market? As I said there, nobody from the Market team is on this list, so you shouldn't be surprised by not getting responses to questions that people on this list can't answer. The people here work on the p

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I'm with it :) might as well give it a shot. On Mar 2, 2011 10:55 PM, "Zsolt Vasvari" wrote: > As Bill & Ted would say, this is sad and bogus at the same time... > > On Mar 3, 11:41 am, TreKing wrote: >> This recent thread< http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/threa...>

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As Bill & Ted would say, this is sad and bogus at the same time... On Mar 3, 11:41 am, TreKing wrote: > This recent > thread > asking > a simple question about the state of in-app billing has received no response > from an

Re: [android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

This recent thread asking a simple question about the state of in-app billing has received no response from anyone at Google. This thread has received 4, 2 of which I, personally, ha

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

Granted spamming people not directly involved with the Market isn't going to do much to improve the situation but some people are prone to taking useless action over doing nothing. Ideally there would be some way for developers to have meaningful interaction with Google about the market instead of

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Rich, I'd appreciate if you could explain what made you believe that it was appropriate to ask people to spam me personally. JBQ On Mar 1, 6:56 pm, Rich wrote: > How is it silly? Manydevelopershave had their apps removed without > warning and it's frankly unacceptable. I make my _living_ off of

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2011/3/2 JAlexoid (Aleksandr Panzin) > > H who do I really hate? > Ironically, the fact that you have written this, makes it more obvious what > a nightmare Android Market is at the moment. Can you explain that? I'm pretty sure she was joking, and I at least thought it was pretty f

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> H who do I really hate? Ironically, the fact that you have written this, makes it more obvious what a nightmare Android Market is at the moment. On 2 мар, 08:32, Dianne Hackborn wrote: > H  who do I really hate? > > > > On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Rich wrote: > > I

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

Humiliation of alleged violators by sending them in public a warning that should have been sent only in private is a great way to blacken Google's reputation. No one will believe you anymore when you say your motto is "do no evil". On Mar 2, 10:02 am, Roman Nurik wrote: > The original message has

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

The following lines from the charter show whose interpretation of it is questionable. Hint: it isn't Rich's: Allowed discussion topics Most of our groups are for technical discussions of Android or users helping each other. Generally we don't put hard restrictions on the topics discussed in the gr

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There are always idiots like this in any platform, something is not right for them, so they have to decide they are the voice of everyone else, To be honest the only part of this that worries me is. * we will dissuade other developers* *from developing Android projects, and we will work tirelessly

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you do know that means spam against anyone. Not just him On 2 Mar 2011 05:29, "Rich" wrote: > I'm sorry Romain - I will remove your email from the list! > > Do you have any contact information for somebody who would be more > willing to listen to our grievances? Please email me off list if there

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

The original message has been deleted for violating our Groups Charter and encouraging spamming of individuals. Rich— consider this a warning; repeat offenses will result in a ban. All— as a general note, any discussions that are not strictly related to technical questions around Android develo

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Mark, Sounds like AARP! -John Coryat -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers+unsubscr...@goo

Re: [android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

H who do I really hate? On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:29 PM, Rich wrote: > I'm sorry Romain - I will remove your email from the list! > > Do you have any contact information for somebody who would be more > willing to listen to our grievances? Please email me off list if there > are othe

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

I'm sorry Romain - I will remove your email from the list! Do you have any contact information for somebody who would be more willing to listen to our grievances? Please email me off list if there are other email address you want removed. R On Mar 1, 10:38 pm, morrildl wrote: > I'm sorry you ar

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

I'm sorry you are not satisfied with the experience you've had with Android Market so far. I look forward to seeing your applications on other platforms. Please note that the page you have put up encourages people to send unsolicited email of a commercial nature in bulk. Spamming or a call to spam

Re: [android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

Rich, I am very sorry you feel this way. However, setting up an online form that may be used by anyone to spam a few individuals working on Android is not the appropriate solution (especially since these individuals, including myself, do *not* work on Market.) On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Rich

[android-developers] Re: Announcing: The Android Developers Union

How is it silly? Many developers have had their apps removed without warning and it's frankly unacceptable. I make my _living_ off of application develop and this kind of instability is intolerable, especially considering that Google has taxed me out of over ten thousand dollars. Just because mark

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This is silly. Can't you find something better to do? -John Coryat -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to andro