Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?

2019-03-13 Thread Vitaliy joness
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Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?

2019-03-12 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message , =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Carlos_Fria=E7as?= wrote: >On Mon, 11 Mar 2019, Fi Shing wrote: > >> Why can't it be both? >> >> 12.5% annual fee incurred daily, to a maximum of 7 days, with resources >> being decommissioned if the > abuse contact is not updated >> within that time. > >This is

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?

2019-03-12 Thread Shane Kerr
--- Original Message ---- Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ? From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" mailto:r...@tristatelogic.com>> Date: Mon, March 11, 2019 12:26 pm To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net <mailto:anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> In message

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?

2019-03-12 Thread Carlos Friaças via anti-abuse-wg
On Mon, 11 Mar 2019, Fi Shing wrote: Why can't it be both? 12.5% annual fee incurred daily, to a maximum of 7 days, with resources being decommissioned if the abuse contact is not updated within that time. This is probably something for the RIPE NCC AGM, not for the PDP... But i seriousl

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?

2019-03-11 Thread Fi Shing
Why can't it be both?12.5% annual fee incurred daily, to a maximum of 7 days, with resources being decommissioned if the abuse contact is not updated within that time. Original Message Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ? From: &quo

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?

2019-03-10 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <9793c47c-2c44-47e3-033a-1d60ca4d3...@time-travellers.org>, Shane Kerr wrote: >As far as I know there is nothing in any policy about decommissioning >resources. (I'm not even sure what that would mean in practice...) > >I don't think that such a proposal would get consensus in the

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?

2019-03-08 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg
etc. Regards, Jordi -Mensaje original- De: anti-abuse-wg en nombre de Michele Neylon - Blacknight Fecha: viernes, 8 de marzo de 2019, 22:51 Para: Shane Kerr , Fi Shing , "anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net" Asunto: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ? Ea

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?

2019-03-08 Thread Michele Neylon - Blacknight
; On 08/03/2019 11.07, Fi Shing wrote: > > If it takes more than a week to verify your entire database, there is > > the first sign that something is wrong with your system. > > > > > > Original Message > > Subject: Re: [anti-abuse

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?

2019-03-08 Thread Shane Kerr
tries - click a link, enter a CAPTCHA, or your resources are decommissioned within 24 hours. How much crime can be committed in the months it has taken (and continues to take)? Original Message ---- Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?

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2019-03-08 Thread Fi Shing
--- Original Message ---- Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ? From: Shane Kerr <sh...@time-travellers.org> Date: Fri, March 08, 2019 9:40 pm To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Fi Shing, I'm sure verifying the delivery of 70k e-mails (or however many is in the datab

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?

2019-03-08 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <20190308030704.af7f9f79718891d8e76b551cf73e1563.3317785c9a@email19.godaddy.com>, "Fi Shing" wrote: > If it takes more than a week to verify your entire database, there is > the first sign that something is wrong with your system. For whatever little it is worth, I would

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?

2019-03-08 Thread Serge Droz via anti-abuse-wg
If it takes more than a week to verify your entire database, there is >> the first sign that something is wrong with your system. >> >> >>     Original Message >>     Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact >> addresses ? >

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?

2019-03-08 Thread Shane Kerr
at it will take a while. Cheers, -- Shane On 08/03/2019 11.07, Fi Shing wrote: If it takes more than a week to verify your entire database, there is the first sign that something is wrong with your system. Original Message Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verificatio

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?

2019-03-08 Thread Fi Shing
If it takes more than a week to verify your entire database, there is the first sign that something is wrong with your system. Original Message Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ? From: Marco Schmidt <mschm...@ripe.net> Date: Thu, Ma

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2019-03-07 Thread Michele Neylon - Blacknight
Agreed It's good to see that there is progress on this. Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.blog/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Personal blog: https://michele.blog/ S

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?

2019-03-07 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message , Marco Schmidt wrote: >We are planning to publish an updated timeline soon. > >Ultimately, our implementation will depend of the level of cooperation >we get from LIRs and the nature of issues that need to be fixed before >an abuse contact can be updated (for example, some organi

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?

2019-03-07 Thread Marco Schmidt
Hello Ronald, We are planning to publish an updated timeline soon. Ultimately, our implementation will depend of the level of cooperation we get from LIRs and the nature of issues that need to be fixed before an abuse contact can be updated (for example, some organisations may need to reset t

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?

2019-03-05 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <9c95c110-d5a3-e94a-6b3c-b02030736...@ripe.net>, Marco Schmidt wrote: >It is correct that the implementation phase is still ongoing. Currently >we are validating all the abuse contact information referenced in LIR >organisation objects. Then we will proceed with the validation of a

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?

2019-03-05 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message <20190305042821.af7f9f79718891d8e76b551cf73e1563.4d026bdf0f@email19.godaddy.com>, "Fi Shing" wrote: > Yes, the verification mechanism they chose to implement was a flop, > with no input required from address owners. So, um, nobody even checked for undeliverable bounces??

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?

2019-03-05 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg
-wg en nombre de Fi Shing Fecha: martes, 5 de marzo de 2019, 12:28 Para: "Ronald F. Guilmette" , Asunto: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ? Yes, the verification mechanism they chose to implement was a flop, with no input required from address owners.

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2019-03-05 Thread Brian Nisbet
7, Ireland +35316609040 brian.nis...@heanet.ie www.heanet.ie Registered in Ireland, No. 275301. CRA No. 20036270 From: anti-abuse-wg On Behalf Of Fi Shing Sent: Tuesday 5 March 2019 11:28 To: Ronald F. Guilmette ; anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addres

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?

2019-03-05 Thread Marco Schmidt
Dear Ronald, Thank you for asking about the status of the policy change 2017-02, "Regular abuse-c Validation". It is correct that the implementation phase is still ongoing. Currently we are validating all the abuse contact information referenced in LIR organisation objects. Then we will proce

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?

2019-03-05 Thread Fi Shing
e too much sense.abuse.net lists these contacts for mesh digital:ab...@meshdigital.com (for meshdigital.com)n...@meshdigital.com (for meshdigital.com)r...@netsumo.com (for meshdigital.com) Original Message Subject: [anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ? From: "Ronald F

[anti-abuse-wg] Verification of abuse contact addresses ?

2019-03-04 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
Sorry folks, when this topic was discussed, I confess that I wasn't really paying much attention. So now I am forced to ask: Was someone going to verify the abuse contact addresses listed in the RIPE WHOIS data base? If so, how is that project coming along? I'll tell you why I ask. It's quit