[AsburyPark] Re: Today's Council Meeting - epochal change of heart and confidence

2006-01-28 Thread Skip Bernstein
Fishman didn't even come close and I am with Tommy on this one - a default should be declared. There is nothing to lose to start the clock running. My reading of the RA indicates that there is ample cause for the default. I hereby enlist as the third musketeer. Tom presented a powerful, cogent

[AsburyPark] James Aaron -- FILING A GRIEVANCE

2006-01-28 Thread Skip Bernstein
James Aaron: I've downloaded the grievance form but can find no lawyer James Aaron in Google; anyone knowing his law firm and its address please send me this information. I'm focusing on his conflict and suspicion of involvement in defrauding Asbury Park through his failure to provide clien,t

[AsburyPark] Developer gives estimates to city

2006-01-28 Thread Skip Bernstein
should declare a default, to set a clock running to get the default resolved while the city negotiates. http://www.app.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060128/NEWS/60128001 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark

Re: [AsburyPark] Developer gives estimates to city

2006-01-28 Thread Lighty
Fishman said heat in the locker rooms is the least of the problems, but also said, I think Asbury Partners is well aware that Convention Hall will never draw a profit … never … and we're prepared to invest because it's an anchor.'' This is simply ridiculous. Does anyone really believe

[AsburyPark] Re: Developer gives estimates to city

2006-01-28 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fishman said heat in the locker rooms is the least of the problems, but also said, I think Asbury Partners is well aware that Convention Hall will never draw a profit … never … and we're prepared to invest

[AsburyPark] Re: Developer gives estimates to city

2006-01-28 Thread Skip Bernstein
… Which just goes to prove, you can lead a dog to water but can't make it think– er – write. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fishman said heat in the locker rooms is the least of the

[AsburyPark] Re: Developer gives estimates to city

2006-01-28 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jap hit it right on the nose. It was built to attract people, period. This is simply ridiculous. Does anyone really believe that Convention

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Developer gives estimates to city

2006-01-28 Thread Lighty
To my surprise, he confirmed that Convention Hall never made money. I'd also be careful if someone ever says the Stone Pony never made money because they made an awful lot of it once... Maybe he should just admit that they've never hired the right people to run his entertainment ventures.

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Developer gives estimates to city

2006-01-28 Thread charlie leonard
its hard to know what exactl lary fishman is thinking, when he says these things. but that does sound a litlte rediculous, as lighty said. im not surprised its not doing well right now, beasue there is nothing going on there. before asbury partners came along, there were shows and concerts

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Developer gives estimates to city

2006-01-28 Thread charlie leonard
"I'd also be careful if someone ever says the Stone Pony never made moneybecause they made an awful lot of it once..."a lot of places made mone at one point, but over time, things and peoples attitudes towards things change. what once was, doesnt always remain that way. aside from that. i

[AsburyPark] Re: Developer gives estimates to city

2006-01-28 Thread Fred
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone once told me you could sellout CH every weekend in the year and it still wouldn't make a profit maybe Werner can help with this one. To my surprise, he confirmed that Convention Hall never made money. I'd

[AsburyPark] Re: Developer gives estimates to city -- I gasped

2006-01-28 Thread Skip Bernstein
…at the meeting I gasped. First, if you are a business man, why would you ever spend millions on something you were certain would lose money? …public shareholders …would fire him for knowingly making a bad investment. …if he is convinced it won't make money, then he has no plans to develop it.

[AsburyPark] convetion hall

2006-01-28 Thread charlie leonard
i dont think its accurate to say that one of the reasons convention hall will never make it, is beacsue of parking. there are blocks and blocks of parking, all the way up to main street. that is how parking was done back in the old days, when things filled up near the beach. there could be a

[AsburyPark] Re: Developer gives estimates to city

2006-01-28 Thread jerseyjohn99
From Kate Mellina's column in the Coaster (August 23, 2001): http://tinyurl.com/dhmcr The hard facts about Convention Hall are these: The city is taking a financial beating on the building, where utilities alone cost $150,000 a year. Like most facilities of its type, it was built to attract