[AsburyPark] Re: The Case of the Missing Voters

2005-05-12 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why end with saying that I miss many points? That's a personal attack that doesn't have anything to do with what we are talking about. I won't do that to you. Calling the following comment a personal attack is a

[AsburyPark] Re: The Case of the Missing Voters

2005-05-12 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Official stats that are outdated are as useless as unofficial stats. You were here in 2000 - those states are off, particularly property values and income levels. You also can't use bad stats and the excuse that its

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Case of the Missing Voters

2005-05-12 Thread JWKeady
In a message dated 5/11/2005 9:15:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Has Jim K left the message boards? Not to worry Oakd.I am here. I have just needed a little bit of time to recover from an exciting, but nonetheless, grueling campaign run. I need a few more days

[AsburyPark] Re: The Case of the Missing Voters

2005-05-11 Thread dfsavgny
JJ Clearly there was a poor turnout and I have no explanation for that. I assume many have been displaced and replaced with people with dual residences, like me. Although I registered here and voted I am told it was voided. I assume some of the dual resident replacements didn;t register here.

[AsburyPark] Re: The Case of the Missing Voters

2005-05-11 Thread bluebishop82
Nice post - very interesting stats. I'm not willing to make the leap that redevelopment caused there to be less voters available. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jerseyjohn99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More telling than the mandate (and I'll admit it definitely was) is how it was

[AsburyPark] Re: The Case of the Missing Voters

2005-05-11 Thread wernerapnj
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think I can stand 4 more years of the council standing by while Asbury Partners does what it wants. I really wish concerned citizens could have a serious heart to heart talk with the new council absent rethoric and

[AsburyPark] Re: The Case of the Missing Voters

2005-05-11 Thread Joe D'Andrea
At 12:02 AM + 5/12/05, jerseyjohn99 wrote: ...The winners campaign was based upon the premise that Asbury's gotten back to a level footing with the rest of the county state, ... Nice try John. No candidate -- winner or not -- that I heard in any pubic forum said anything like that at all.

[AsburyPark] Re: The Case of the Missing Voters

2005-05-11 Thread jerseyjohn99
Let's see, according to the most recent statistics 67.1% of HOUSEHOLDS in AP had income under $35,000 80.5% of the total population rented their living unit. Using the 28/36 ratio, a person who makes $35,000 with no debt can qualify for a mortgage up to $81,000. Realtor.com gives me 5 vacant

[AsburyPark] Re: The Case of the Missing Voters

2005-05-11 Thread bluebishop82
If by most recent statistics you mean the 2000 census, you are using some awfully out of date stats. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jerseyjohn99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let's see, according to the most recent statistics 67.1% of HOUSEHOLDS in AP had income under $35,000 80.5% of the

[AsburyPark] Re: The Case of the Missing Voters

2005-05-11 Thread bluebishop82
Official stats that are outdated are as useless as unofficial stats. You were here in 2000 - those states are off, particularly property values and income levels. You also can't use bad stats and the excuse that its ok because you don't have access to the right ones. --- In

[AsburyPark] Re: The Case of the Missing Voters

2005-05-11 Thread jerseyjohn99
Can you use bad stats to justify Abbott district membership or Extraordinary Aid from the state for the 4th year in a row? What are the real stats and what would the city's demographics look like using these real stats compared to the other 30 Abbott districts? --- In

[AsburyPark] Re: The Case of the Missing Voters

2005-05-11 Thread bluebishop82
Good point, JJ. But do we have to use bad stats just because they do? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, jerseyjohn99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you use bad stats to justify Abbott district membership or Extraordinary Aid from the state for the 4th year in a row? What are the real

[AsburyPark] Re: The Case of the Missing Voters

2005-05-11 Thread noblarneyzone
There is a newspaper guy in Asbury, that use to be in Long Branch. He is also Gay. It was his coming out that caused him to depart from Long Branch, not totally however because he has a patronage benefits position at the sewer authority in his old home town, as a payback for all the political

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: The Case of the Missing Voters

2005-05-11 Thread muffolettom
. -Original Message- From: bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thu, 12 May 2005 02:07:34 - Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: The Case of the Missing Voters Good point, JJ. But do we have to use bad stats just because they do? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com