[AsburyPark] Re: What's the Big Deal about Lights Anyway?

2005-05-22 Thread wernerapnj
Thanks for voting! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the job of installing the lights up to Asbury Partners or the city? In the redeveloper agreement: 3.9 The Boardwalk In consideration for the City utilizing the August 1, 2001 date for the value of the

[AsburyPark] Re: What's the Big Deal about Lights Anyway?

2005-05-22 Thread wernerapnj
One more bit of trivia -- The professional field of Industrial Psychology has it's roots in the study of lighting and the workplace. A study of productivity, efficiency, accident rate, morale, etc. Facinating stuff. So let's shed some light (of the best kind) on Asbury Park. Werner

[AsburyPark] Re: What's the Big Deal about Lights Anyway?

2005-05-22 Thread jerseyjohn99
Q1: Does putting up the same lights that have been there for 30 years satisfy the definition of new? Q2: Do Cobra Head lighting fixtures satisfy the definition of decorative? Rather than bargaining concessions over the lighting, wouldn't it be wiser to keep the Master Developer to the

[AsburyPark] Re: What's the Big Deal about Lights Anyway?

2005-05-22 Thread Skip Bernstein
Do Cobra Head lighting fixtures satisfy the definition of decorative? ... wouldn't it be wiser to keep the Master Developer to the standards he agreed to when he signed the document 3 years ago? They're decorative if you're a snake. Isn't it a duty and responsibility of elected office to

[AsburyPark] Re: What's the Big Deal about Lights Anyway?

2005-05-22 Thread wernerapnj
The points you make are one in the same. At issue on the larger scale is one of interpretation. Many of the documents are so loose that clearly the City is being taken advantage of. That looseness can be used to the City's advantage, if they were to wake up. This lighting issue is just the tip

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: What's the Big Deal about Lights Anyway?

2005-05-22 Thread charlie leonard
a)two wooden gazebo type sun shelters north of Convention Hall and two south of Convention Hall each approximately 20 feet in width c)new decorative lighting fixtures (style and type to be agreed upon by the City and Master Developer meeting minimum public safety standards) werner - the lights

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: What's the Big Deal about Lights Anyway?

2005-05-22 Thread charlie leonard
a thought - if asbury parnters were going to install the same lights that were on the boadwalk previoulys, why didnt they save the old lights? to be put back later? if they were going to spend money on new lights, they could have got something different for the same price. im guessing. ive

[AsburyPark] Re: What's the Big Deal about Lights Anyway?

2005-05-22 Thread Skip Bernstein
What's the Big Deal about Lights Anyway? `…because the idea sucks. certain towns to the south of us, …have gazebos. why does asbury park need them too? Temp lights …stuck in the sand during construction. not that those are much better' Great question; `cause the point here ought to be what's

[AsburyPark] Re: What's the Big Deal about Lights Anyway?

2005-05-22 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Skip Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As to the gazebos, with the dim witted negotiations council employed with The Fish; this reads like a face saving measure to make it appear the city would get `something' in exchange for gifting the triangle to

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: What's the Big Deal about Lights Anyway?

2005-05-22 Thread charlie leonard
the gazebos are a bad idea, and i hope they never get built. id like to see a large fountain of some sort in one of them. (yes i know, bradley beach has one of those too). it could be interesting though, having fictional characters and musical intstruemtns with feet standing under the falling

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: What's the Big Deal about Lights Anyway?

2005-05-22 Thread charlie leonard
dfsavgny - no, those are different lights then what was previously on the boardwalk. they are new. you can see the differences in them, when you compare them to the 3 standing on the older boardwalk just south of convention hall. __ Do You

[AsburyPark] Re: What's the Big Deal about Lights Anyway? council's intent

2005-05-22 Thread Skip Bernstein
this reads like a face saving measure to make it appear the city would get `something' Dan, I don't believe it/I suggest this was council's intent. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Skip Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[AsburyPark] Re: What's the Big Deal about Lights Anyway? council's intent

2005-05-22 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Skip Bernstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this reads like a face saving measure to make it appear the city would get `something' Dan, I don't believe it/I suggest this was council's intent. No, I meant don't believe that those things should, pursuant to the

Re: [AsburyPark] Re: What's the Big Deal about Lights Anyway?

2005-05-22 Thread muffolettom
Thanks for reading the agreement and keeping track. -Original Message- From: dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, 23 May 2005 00:50:20 - Subject: [AsburyPark] Re: What's the Big Deal about Lights Anyway? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Skip