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2005-08-18 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I must concede Daniel, you seem to know a good deal on many subjects, > and express ideas very well. Very impressive fellow. You know what they say, "jack of all trades, master of none." Or as my wife and daughters

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2005-08-18 Thread bluebishop82
I must concede Daniel, you seem to know a good deal on many subjects, and express ideas very well. Very impressive fellow. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "dfsavgny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dan, > > > > Thank

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2005-08-18 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "oakdorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dan, > > Thank you for the excellent response. You are quite welcome. It was quite a turning point in my life to recognize how insiduous anti-judaism is in Christianity (you have to read Constantine's Sword by an ex-prie

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2005-08-18 Thread oakdorf
Before Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl was decapitated by his Muslim abductors who videotaped the atrocity, he was compelled to say with his last breath, "My mother is a Jew. My father is a Jew. I am a Jew." Every Jew should embrace his or her identity with pride and vote their consci

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2005-08-18 Thread bluebishop82
I see. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Heshy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It's quite simple, really. "Jew" is a noun, "Jewish" is an adjective. > When "Jew" is used as an adjective, it is derogatory, e.g. Jew > couple, Jew nose, Jew businesses, etc. > > ~Heshy > > > > --- In AsburyPa

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2005-08-18 Thread Heshy
It's quite simple, really. "Jew" is a noun, "Jewish" is an adjective. When "Jew" is used as an adjective, it is derogatory, e.g. Jew couple, Jew nose, Jew businesses, etc. ~Heshy --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Maybe someone on the board can he

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2005-08-18 Thread oakdorf
Dan, Thank you for the excellent response. I think we had this discussion a while back. Heshy I think covered it as well. I do get annoyed to some extent when "jew" is used versus "jewish"- and I'm not religious. I could here my grandmother saying the word "Gentile". To me, it meant non-je

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2005-08-18 Thread dfsavgny
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why is it that to say "He is a Jew" is considered insensitive or > insulting, but to say "He is Jewish" is OK. I must say for other > religions it is the opposite. If someone said of me "He is a > Catholic" I'd be

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2005-08-18 Thread bluebishop82
Certainly wasn't my intention to offend, JJ. Questions aren't always hidden arguments; sometimes it is someone seeking to be taught something, so they can better understand the world in the future. Some might say that communication that leads to a better underdstanding of each other will bring

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2005-08-18 Thread Jim
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Interesting Sandy. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: >

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2005-08-17 Thread jerseyjohn99
Good question, and I'll try to give my interpretation. When discussing religion, I'm Catholic and my wife & kids are Jewish. (darn, I gave away the answer to the psychic waitresses). I consider religious beliefs an adjective, not a noun. So I don't consider myself A Catholic. (heck...neither do

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2005-08-17 Thread bluebishop82
Skip just forget it. I should have know you weren't mature enough to handle a subject like this. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Skip Bernstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "…why the word Jew is derogatory but Jewish is not? I hope no one > finds the very subject off limits. After all, I

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2005-08-17 Thread Skip Bernstein
"…why the word Jew is derogatory but Jewish is not? I hope no one finds the very subject off limits. After all, I worship a Jew (or should I say Jewish guy?)." First off I don't think anyone wants to know about your affair with The Fishman. I suspect it was the Nazis who coined the ultimate ins

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2005-08-17 Thread bluebishop82
Maybe someone on the board can help me out with this. Serious question and I'm trying to learn. Why is it that to say "He is a Jew" is considered insensitive or insulting, but to say "He is Jewish" is OK. I must say for other religions it is the opposite. If someone said of me "He is a Cath

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2005-08-17 Thread Jim
> > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "bluebishop82" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Interesting Sandy. > > > > > > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > It is a slur only if it was meant in a derogotory way. The > Jews > > > have

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2005-08-17 Thread Joanne
I did not go back of course but many of my friends are attorneys and situations like that are clearly defamation of character- I'm just not the lawsuit type but I heard from a friend who works outs at the JCC in Deal knows this couple and they are going after them full force, it's ashame they

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2005-08-17 Thread jerseyjohn99
Where is this restaurant full of psychics? I want to see if they can guess my family's religion & ethnic origins. Yeah, and there's NO racism in Monmouth County...okay! --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is a slur only if it was meant in a derogotory way

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2005-08-17 Thread sandy
On what grounds are they going to sue? After the bartender wrote slut(or whatever) on your bill you go back to the place?? Why don't you sue? Or don't you have grounds to sue? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Joanne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is not the first time the staff at Parkhi

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2005-08-17 Thread Joanne
This is not the first time the staff at Parkhills have acted in childish ways, I was a victim of their unprofessionalism and immaturity last year when I received 2 tabs within a month when a certain bartender wrote a derogatory name after my name ( like slut and dirty) go figure, on one of the

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2005-08-17 Thread bluebishop82
Interesting Sandy. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "sandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is a slur only if it was meant in a derogotory way. The Jews have > to stop persecuting themselves. If it said Italian couple, i would not > be offended. > > > > --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com

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2005-08-17 Thread sandy
It is a slur only if it was meant in a derogotory way. The Jews have to stop persecuting themselves. If it said Italian couple, i would not be offended. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, traderdube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > By LEELA de KRETSER > --

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2005-08-17 Thread dfsavgny
It gets even better, "We are a family restaurant, and we welcome everybody," she said, adding that the words "Jew Couple" were never intended to be derogatory. "We use it as a form of identity," she said. She would not elaborate on what the restaurant does when there is more than one couple