Re: [Assam] ASSAMESE - STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES

2005-09-17 Thread mayur bora
Dear Bhuban da Thank you for sharing your personal experiences mainly in Shillong. Let us not take up the reservation issue. Statistics will show that the reservations have almost failed to improve the conditions of the SCs and STs. The benefits of the reservation are cornered by creamy section am

Re: [Assam] ASSAMESE - STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES On his NEgatives

2005-09-16 Thread mc mahant
a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: mayur bora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, >[EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >CC: assam@assamnet.org >Subject: Re: [Assam] ASSAMESE - STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES >Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:50:48 -0500 > >Hello Ma

Re: [Assam] ASSAMESE - STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES

2005-09-16 Thread BBaruah
  Mayur You have very carefully chiselled and honed his defence against a veteran. No doubt like the rest of  net-colleagues,  I do  appreciate the niceties of the repartees exchanged while I’ve a feeling we are getting distanced from the points raised for discussion,  one of which is:   A

Re: [Assam] ASSAMESE - STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES

2005-09-15 Thread Ram Sarangapani
This is interesting. I always thought there were some Hindus without a caste assigned. Hence the term 'caste Hindus'. I suspect there may also be some Hindus who 'lost' their caste - for reasons like Xat Xagor paar hwa or goru kwhua (albeit belaiti). :) Anyway, for whatever reason, I must have

Re: [Assam] ASSAMESE - STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES

2005-09-15 Thread mayur bora
I don't know what is the textbook or sociological definition of caste hindu. But I am clear what I meant by that. Caste Hindus are those those Assamese Speakers who do not belong to the Scheduled tribes. But whether SCs and OBCs are part of that or outside that group can be open to further debate

Re: [Assam] ASSAMESE - STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES

2005-09-15 Thread Malabika Brahma
I am totally clueless as well. Hence the question mark (caste hindu ?)   Prasenjit Chetia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Who are caste Hindu ? Sorry no offence intended out of my ignorance, but I searched google without any reasonable descrption.   Prasenjit  On 9/15/05, Malabika Brahma <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [Assam] ASSAMESE - STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES

2005-09-15 Thread Malabika Brahma
Ram da and Mayur,   By the way, that was Utpal using Malabika's Assamner email id, where we receieve all Assamnet emails.   Mayur, I would like to assure you that I was not really bogged down by the particular word "Mainstream" .   I myself is half Bodo and half Assamese (caste Hindu ?) and marr

Re: [Assam] ASSAMESE - STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES

2005-09-15 Thread Chan Mahanta
Hi Mayur: Malabika's comment and my endorsement are not fixations on semantics, but rejection of a deeply ingrained, but unacceptable cultural chauvinism that permeates thruout the south Asian subcontinent's many peoples. It also works in a pac-man-like, the bigger fish eating up the smaller

Re: [Assam] ASSAMESE - STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES

2005-09-15 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Hi Malabika,   >What is mainstream anyway ?   After reading Mayur's explanation (and your concerns) I feel Mayur is right here.   The term 'mainstream' may not be the right word, but how would you for example, describe the American culture? Here for example, Whites/Causian are 'mainstream' and othe

Re: [Assam] ASSAMESE - STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES

2005-09-14 Thread mayur bora
Hi Malabika After seeing your comments and subsequent endorsement by Mr Mahanta, I am constrained to conclude that WE ARE PROBABLY MISSING THE WOODS FOR THE TREES. I would have been happier had you viewed my comments in a more comprehensive way in stead of getting bogged down by a particular word

Re: [Assam] ASSAMESE - STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES

2005-09-14 Thread Chan Mahanta
Title: Re: [Assam] ASSAMESE - STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES Well said Malabika. At 6:02 PM +0100 9/14/05, Malabika Brahma wrote: 1. Alienation of tribal people from the mainstream due to the cavalier attitude shown by caste Hindu Assamese. This has resulted in disunity and a sense of mutual

Re: [Assam] ASSAMESE - STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES

2005-09-14 Thread Malabika Brahma
1. Alienation of tribal people from the mainstream dueto the cavalier attitude shown by caste HinduAssamese. This has resulted in disunity and a sense ofmutual mistrust among different tribes. (I am a casteHindu myself   What is mainstream anyway ? Just like the Cow-Belt culture can not be a Mai

Re: [Assam] ASSAMESE - STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES

2005-09-14 Thread BBaruah
I am not responding to this topic ad seriatim but rather in comparison or contrast with Bangaldesh. I am taking just one aspect: Population. It is a great strength. In 1905 Assam and certain areas of East Bengal were united. In 1912 Assam reverted to a Chief Commissionership while East Benga

Re: [Assam] ASSAMESE - STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES

2005-09-13 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Dear Mayur,   >Honestly speaking, I am not aware of the history of the term HOBO DIOK on Assamnet.I used the >word as it described our attitude nicely.   No harm done, but, if I am correct, it been bandied around for a couple years now. It may even have been 'copyrighted'  :).   Perhaps, C'da (Cha

Re: [Assam] ASSAMESE - STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES

2005-09-13 Thread Chan Mahanta
Hello Mayur: Welcome to assamnet. I am delighted to see a newcomer starting out not only participating, but taking a lead on a discussion. That is very commendable. I hope you will continue to be a contributing member. I also invite all the others to participate as well. The net, after all, is

Re: [Assam] ASSAMESE - STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES

2005-09-13 Thread umesh sharma
nice observation!   Umeshmayur bora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear Friends,I am new to the mailing list of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Some of the debates among the netizens on issuesconcerning Assam are really interesting. I am sure wewould be able to provide a new perspective on someissues in respect of As

Re: [Assam] ASSAMESE - STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES

2005-09-13 Thread umesh sharma
nice observation!   Umeshmayur bora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear Friends,I am new to the mailing list of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Some of the debates among the netizens on issuesconcerning Assam are really interesting. I am sure wewould be able to provide a new perspective on someissues in respect of As

Re: [Assam] ASSAMESE - STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES

2005-09-13 Thread Ram Sarangapani
Dear Bora,   First of all, let me welcome you to the Assamnet. You are right, the debates are really interesting and are usually full of passion.   The list you provided is pretty good. Over the years, netters have discussed many of the issues. I am sure you are going to get a earful, specially re