Re: Comments Draft

2005-07-30 Thread Eric Scheid
On 31/7/05 7:47 AM, "A. Pagaltzis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I¹m -1 on using ³replies-source²; I should have said so more > explicitly before. To me it is non-sensical, as it parses as ³the > source of replies,² which is the opposite relationship of what > it¹s supposed to express. It¹s not wh

Re: Comments Draft

2005-07-30 Thread Justin Fletcher
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > > * Justin Fletcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-30 23:25]: > > I'm quite happy with 'replies-source' because it does not > > indComparing to mail seems to be a reasonable thing to do - > > mail has a considerable amount of prior implementation and > > u

Re: Comments Draft

2005-07-30 Thread Eric Scheid
On 31/7/05 8:16 AM, "Antone Roundy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > ...unless it were done this way: > > > > Why not this... While true that nesting elements does allow for more flexible cardinality, in practice will that actually hap

Re: Comments Draft

2005-07-30 Thread Eric Scheid
On 31/7/05 7:47 AM, "A. Pagaltzis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I¹m -1 on using ³replies-source²; I should have said so more > explicitly before. To me it is non-sensical, as it parses as ³the > source of replies,² which is the opposite relationship of what > it¹s supposed to express. It¹s not wh

Re: Comments Draft

2005-07-30 Thread David Powell
Sunday, July 31, 2005, 1:09:44 AM, I wrote: > I don't believe that atom:link _isn't_ usefully extensible other than by er, that should be "is" -- Dave

Re: Comments Draft

2005-07-30 Thread David Powell
Saturday, July 30, 2005, 9:55:33 PM, Antone Roundy wrote: > > > I'm not at all keen on extending the link element in this way. Atom Publishing Servers that don't know about this extension that receive an entry containing nested links from a publishing client will most likely drop the

Re: Comments Draft

2005-07-30 Thread Antone Roundy
On Saturday, July 30, 2005, at 04:37 PM, James M Snell wrote: One challenge is that for anything besides references to Atom entries, there is no guarantee that in-reply-to links will be non-traversable. For instance, if someone were to go and define a behavior for using in-reply-to with RSS,

Re: Comments Draft

2005-07-30 Thread James M Snell
One challenge is that for anything besides references to Atom entries, there is no guarantee that in-reply-to links will be non-traversable. For instance, if someone were to go and define a behavior for using in-reply-to with RSS, the href of the link may point to the same URL that the RSS i

Re: Comments Draft

2005-07-30 Thread James M Snell
I agree. I'd much rather avoid introducing a new namespace for this tho. Nested link elements if just fine I think Using source in this context I think avoids the potential confusion had the link appeared without nesting. The fact that it solves the problem of associating a single in

Re: Comments Draft

2005-07-30 Thread Antone Roundy
On Saturday, July 30, 2005, at 03:59 PM, A. Pagaltzis wrote: I’d prefer to eliminate the one contra you listed by using an extension element for this purpose (as always, nested into the link.) Of course, that means need a namespace… Given that the link to the feed is traversable, and the "lin

Re: atom buttons

2005-07-30 Thread James M Snell
I'm using the one from the Feed Validator. http://www.snellspace.com/public/valid-atom.png A. Pagaltzis wrote: * Bill de hÓra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-30 18:40]: what are y'all using for Atom buttons? I’m not using one, but I thought there was one with the atom from the Atom lo

Re: Comments Draft

2005-07-30 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Antone Roundy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-30 23:05]: > Pro: > * Groups the two links together > * Gives us more options for what to call the inside one without > creating confusion: "source-feed", for example. It would be > nice to choose a name that's not likely to be the perfect name > for s

Re: Comments Draft

2005-07-30 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Justin Fletcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-30 23:25]: > I'm quite happy with 'replies-source' because it does not > indComparing to mail seems to be a reasonable thing to do - > mail has a considerable amount of prior implementation and > understanding from which concepts can be drawn. However

Re: Comments Draft

2005-07-30 Thread Justin Fletcher
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005, A. Pagaltzis wrote: > * James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-30 18:10]: > > Yeah, source is likely the most logical choice, but I didn't > > want to confuse folks with a link @rel="source" that has a > > different meaning from atom:source. > > An argument by way of whic

Re: Comments Draft

2005-07-30 Thread Antone Roundy
On Saturday, July 30, 2005, at 02:38 PM, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-30 18:10]: Yeah, source is likely the most logical choice, but I didn't want to confuse folks with a link @rel="source" that has a different meaning from atom:source. An argument by way

Re: atom buttons

2005-07-30 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Bill de hÓra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-30 18:40]: > what are y'all using for Atom buttons? I’m not using one, but I thought there was one with the atom from the Atom logo? I can’t find any such thing now, though; well, except the one at the feedvalidator, but that’s too large for my taste.

Re: Comments Draft

2005-07-30 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-30 18:10]: > Yeah, source is likely the most logical choice, but I didn't > want to confuse folks with a link @rel="source" that has a > different meaning from atom:source. An argument by way of which I came around to Antone’s suggested “start-of-threa

Re: Atom Index Extension Proposal

2005-07-30 Thread Peter Robinson
James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FYI: http://www.snellspace.com/wp/?p=193 > > Abstract: Proposes two new elements that allow entries to be ordered > within a feed. [xml condensed:] > http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"; > xmlns:o="http://www.snellspace.com/atom/extensions/proposed

atom buttons

2005-07-30 Thread Bill de hÓra
Hi, what are y'all using for Atom buttons? cheers Bill

Re: Comments Draft

2005-07-30 Thread James M Snell
Yeah, source is likely the most logical choice, but I didn't want to confuse folks with a link @rel="source" that has a different meaning from atom:source. Graham wrote: On 30 Jul 2005, at 1:38 am, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-30 01:40]: It's really

Re: Comments Draft

2005-07-30 Thread Graham
On 30 Jul 2005, at 1:38 am, A. Pagaltzis wrote: * James M Snell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-07-30 01:40]: It's really just a hint as to where original entries MIGHT be found. “originally-at?” source? Graham