Re: can a blind person drive a car?
As I said, on an empty race track is one thing. On a busy ighway would be quite another matter.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172945#p172945
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Re: can a blind person drive a car?
Not sure if blind people can drive a car but they sure can steer one based on haptic cueshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewib8wzXrn4URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172811#p172811
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Re: can a blind person drive a car?
Probably not even once they're available to the general public. I've observed how the world thinks of us. I have a feeling that by the time we're allowed behind the wheel,so to speak, of a self-driving car, the rest o the world will be driving vehicles like th
Re: can a blind person drive a car?
Ah yeah, the no fun part saddens me.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172676#p172676
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Re: can a blind person drive a car?
This would be a great picture!You are walking home from sports, work, school or elsewhere, cars are passing by and the drivers are sleeping while the cars are driving through the streets without any problem. @Bryanp,You might be right. In Germany, we have a TV
Re: can a blind person drive a car?
Bryan,, I certainly understand the source of your doubt and skepticism here about self-driving cars, but consider this. To begin with they aren't necessarily being developed for the blind in mind accept in specific research cases. It looks as the automotive in
Re: can a blind person drive a car?
It'll take years for the US government to allow such a thing and just as long to convince the country that the blind could handle it. And all that could go out the window the very first time a blind person got into an accident while riding in one of these cars
Re: can a blind person drive a car?
The thing is, that every country has it's own law and I definitely think that it is most likely that the Americans would have the chance to try it out, months or years before Germany and other countries get green light.Especially in Germany, there are so many
Re: can a blind person drive a car?
Not necessarily. It's likely to take years to address all the legal issues.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172444#p172444
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Self-driving cars may be closer than you all are thinking. Many different companies are working on their own implementations of it, and a few even, as you guys know, already have a prototype built. Check out this page on Wikipedia, worth a read. http://en.wiki
Re: can a blind person drive a car?
Note: kamochek has split off the discussion on The vOICe and EyeMusic to a separate topic at http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172399 which I think was a good idea because nobody wants to suggest using either program for driving a car.PeterSeeing w
Re: can a blind person drive a car?
The only problem is, that sighted people have a much wider range in which they could see objects. Regarding VOICE or Eye Music, it may be something experimental, but I wouldn't use this tool while walking around somewhere outside, cuz on the one hand I "hear"
Re: can a blind person drive a car?
My first impulse regarding vision substitution has always been tactile, up until I started programming / discovered the vOICe (these were around the same time), and even then, I never really put much thought into using audio for vision replacement until Aprone
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Hi kamochek,> and when EM was developed first?You'd have to ask Amir Amedi, but I think it was around 2012.> and does amir amedi know your VOICe program?I already mentioned in yesterday's post that he used The vOICe in much of his neuroscience research.PeterSe
Re: can a blind person drive a car?
hi.and when EM was developed first?and does amir amedi know your VOICe program?kamochek.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172329#p172329
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Hi kamochek,> which program was developed first: the VOICe or the EM/eyeMusic?The vOICe program was developed much earlier, with the first version of The vOICe Learning Edition software for Microsoft Windows released in January 1998. In 2003 I developed a vers
Re: can a blind person drive a car?
ehi petr.which program was developed first: the VOICe or the EM/eyeMusic?kamochek.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172325#p172325
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Hi Dark,I do not think we are going to resolve the issues here. There are different "philosophies" concerning high-information and low-information displays. Neither has thus far had much commercial success. You already mentioned that the Ultracane is no longer
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That is not exactly what I meant peter, if something is worth doing such as learning to play the piano and people have an overbaring desire to do it, people will do it, that is a question of worth to the person. With learning to make sense of a sensory cross m
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Even though it was. LOL.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172254#p172254
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Hi Dark,> practically speaking if something is going to be so complex as to require years of training > before it is meaningful I don't know how many people would bennifit from itYour point is well-taken. I cannot predict how much effort blind people are willi
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Hi kamochek,> did you hared of amir amedi's research and of eyeMusic before i said about it?Absolutely! Amir Amedi and I worked together for years. I developed The vOICe image-to-sound mapping technology while he used it in his Neuroscience research. One of th
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Moderation! Camochek, please start using the edit post function rather than creating these long strings of double posts, it would make matters much easier to read. While a bit of double posting is okay, especially when there is a good reason, remember this isn
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Thanks kamochek, now the link worked for me too. I'll check it out later.PeterSeeing with Sound - The vOICehttp://www.seeingwithsound.comURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172243#p172243
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Re: can a blind person drive a car?
hi.sorry for the doubble posting, i've checked the link now, and now you can download it.kamochek.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172239#p172239
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hi.strange, i think i uploaded it well.but maybe try download it soon, maybe it still uploading.and question: did you hared of amir amedi's research and of eyeMusic before i said about it?kamochek.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172238#p1722
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Hi kamochek,> did you installed the VOICe on your computer?Yes, a PC running Windows 8.1. Your dropbox link gives a 404 error (file not found)?Thanks,PeterSeeing with Sound - The vOICehttp://www.seeingwithsound.comURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php
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hi.sorry, here is the link again:https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/107 … nstall.msikamochek.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172236#p172236
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Re: can a blind person drive a car?
hi peter.did you installed the VOICe on your computer?if yes, i'll maybe will upload to you the eyeMusic setup.maybe you want to try it with your glasses?if yes, try, and tell me what you prefer to use.i think that it is ok using 2 programs and not one, so i'm
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Hi kamochek,Thank you for your EyeMusic recording.> and what do you think: can someone use the eyeMusic and the VOIce?Yes, the mappings are similar enough: left-to-right scanning with pitch for height and loudness for brightness. The main difference is that Th
Re: can a blind person drive a car?
hi.sorry for the double posting:but i mean by that question that if i can tell and show the VOIce program to the teacher, or just keep it for myself, to not get her disapointed?kamochek.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172227#p172227
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hi.here is an example of the eyeMusic.a recording where i scaning a sqware.i'll talk in hebrew there, but listen to the beeps.tell me what do you think is better.and what do you think: can someone use the eyeMusic and the VOIce?not at the same time, but using
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Hi Dark,> If I had a camera i'd be interested to try your software, any plans for an ios version?I have no plans to develop for iOS, but there exists a similar third-party app for iOS named "Voice vision", available on iTunes at https://itunes.apple.com/us/app
Re: can a blind person drive a car?
A blind person driving a car in a deserted parking lot is one thing. I actually did that with my dad's truc once with him sitting inthe passenger's seat telling me where to turn. But on a populated street or highway is another matter and, quite frankly, I can'
Re: can a blind person drive a car?
I agree. I could see the self-driving cars as a possibility, but as far as I'm concerned that's as close as the blind are ever likely to come to driving. And as slowly as legal matters tend to move I have a strong feeling that by the time self-driving cars are
Re: can a blind person drive a car?
@Burak, the point of a self driving car would be to get around by driving and have the same opportunities for mobility and travel that sighted people have with their cars, not for the fun experience.If you just want to try driving a car you can already try tha
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Hi kamochek,> what is vOICe sensory substitution?i didn't hared about that.The vOICe sensory substitution technology is what much of the research by Amir Amedi's group is based on. It is somewhat similar to the EyeMusic app that you referred to, also conveying
Re: can a blind person drive a car?
A blind person driving a car in a deserted parking lot is one thing. I actually did that with my dad's truc once with him sitting inthe passenger's seat telling me where to turn. But on a populated street or highway is another matter and, quite frankly, I can'
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Hi, I think if autopilot would drive the car, then there would be no fun at all. I at least would like to control the gass pedal... I never tried driving a car myself, just shifted gears.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172208#p172208
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I actually did something similar Simber, though it was at a stop car race track with a driving instructor and there was just the one car to try. I didn't take note of the make of the car, but I did manage to get some speed out of the thing. As I said, it was a
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Hi,I were at an event some time ago were blind people could drive cars on a air field with a sighted person in the passenger seat. The fun thing was that i didn't need to drive slowlycause i was there early and no one was there so i think. So we raced around
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hi.what is vOICe sensory substitution?i didn't hared about that. and about the car, if i'm not mistaken and if i understood correctly, in 2010 in the tv news said that in america starting to work on flying cars?kamochek.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtop
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Well regarding substitution technology I'm not sure myself, sinse most of those sorts of things I've seen were rather confusing and it was a case of picking out minimal information, sinse learning to read such a large amount of informational input as sight as
Re: can a blind person drive a car?
Hi kamochek,Have you also worked with The vOICe sensory substitution software, wearing camera glasses?Best regards,Peter MeijerSeeing with Sound - The vOICehttp://www.seeingwithsound.comURL: http://forum.audiogames.net/viewtopic.php?pid=172172#p172172
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hi.with that program, you can not only look or heare beeps, but also read a standart books, read from the computer's screen and etc. each letter having it's beeps, but i think currently it works only with the hebrew letters. i know all the 22 hebrew letters no
Re: can a blind person drive a car?
Kamochek, its possible for a blind person to drive a car, but as has been said it is a very risky business and is not strictly legal. I do know of one instance where a blind man drove a car across Europe with someone sitting in the passenger seat giving him di
Re: can a blind person drive a car?
Hi camacheck.Its an interesting concept.Can a blind person drive a car, yes.Can they safely do it now? nope.Could they do it in the future? nope because they are blind and blind people can't drive cars or anything like that.Its alegal at least in one state of
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hi.maybe, without something it will not be safelly, but i have some other things, which maybe can help to blind people to drive a car:i don't know if you hared about that: in israel, amir amedi which working in a lab, invented a program which converting pictur
Re: can a blind person drive a car?
Well yes and no. It is quite possible for a blind person to handle the sterring wheel, accellerator, break and all other controls without a problem, however there is no way of actually knowing what is around you or where your steering the thing, and sinse the
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hi.here we will talk about the question: can a blind person drive a car?i'm for example can ride a bycycle, so why not to drive a car?no i'm not mean to do that because i'm only 15, but interesting me what do you think.kamochek.URL: http://forum.audiogames.net/vie
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