Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. Yeah but again that's why I'm saying that none of the proposals should include a (Pfft piracy) option.  That isn't complete democracy, but that's not really what I was aiming for anyway, just more user input than the last time.There

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. From the legal side, and again not a lawyer etc, I believe the determining factor here is whether or not audiogames.net is behind a legal entity.  The mods are in very different positions if they're hired by a company, as opposed to just

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @JaydeIf someone gives the site an official takedown notice, but it's never communicated to the mod team, than common sense says that would fall on the ones who received it an no one else personally.  It could definitely cause a takedown

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @JaydeIf someone gives the site an official takedown notice, but it's never communicated to the mod team, than common sense says that would fall on the ones who received it an no one else personally.  It could definitely cause a takedown

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @JaydeIf someone gives the site an official takedown notice, but it's never communicated to the mod team, than common sense says that would fall on the ones who received it an no one else personally.  It could definitely cause a takedown

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @JaydeIf someone gives the site an official takedown notice, but it's never communicated to the mod team, than common sense says that would fall on the ones who received it an no one else personally.  It could definitely cause a takedown

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @JaydeIf someone gives the site an official takedown notice, but it's never communicated to the mod team, than common sense says that would fall on the ones who received it an no one else personally.  It could definitely cause a takedown

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. We have the ability to edit the database, insofar as adding or removing games. We have the ability to remove links, redact or outright delete posts. We have been trusted to do this by the webmasters and by prior and current members

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. That is true, and believe me I thought the same thing. However, as you know, our webmasters been inactive. What if a DMCA notice happens, and hypothetically, they don't respond? Agnet could be busted within, well, days, if that sort

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. Jayde wrote:First of all, there will be no nasty surprises from the staff team. I trust most of you can agree that we've been pretty transparent about this whole thing. Yes, we mishandled the Vast Horizon thing, if only because it looked

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @defender: Not necessarily. Hiring someone to sound design off of their existing sound library collection is still hiring a sound designer/editor, as long as you can afford whatever rate they choose. The Fiver model is busted, so I usually

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @205There's a ton of blind musicians and stuff now.  Presumably, there were a ton then as well.  I've certainly got friends with stories from back then.By the nature of economics, if you've got a blind person on SSI who does music and audio

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @CamlornSo if I'm understanding you correctly, your talking about paying someone to either create or record sounds for you instead of buying an expensive sound library or partial sound library from a distributer?Because that would require

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @202I don't really see that as an excuse, not post-internet.  Blind people have been doing audio stuff since the days of dos.  I'd need a hell of a lot more convincing that you couldn't find people to collaborate with back then before I'd

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. The site Philip used to obtain free sounds, ljudo.com, is not even around anymore, so that should tell you all you need to know about free sound sources not really taking off at the time. Creative Commons wasn't even big back then. URL

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @camlornThat, and high quality legal free/low cost sounds didn't really exist back then, or if they did they were extremely niche and hard to find, and often very limited in quantity or variety. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @camlornThat, and high quality legal free/low cost sounds didn't really exist back then, or if they did they were extremely niche and hard to find, and often very limited in variety. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/583892/#p583892

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. It is generally safe to assume that a game which is copying assets from a game by a big sighted publisher didn't have permission.  They don't give permission.  They never really have.  They're certainly not going to start with giving

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. Sadly, the following questions may never get answered, unless someone contacts David Phil, and all other gaming devs directly (or if they ever see this thread somewhere). 1. Where did they originally get the sounds? 2. Did they ever get

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. Sadly, the following questions may never get answered, unless someone contacts David Phil, and all other gaming devs directly (or if they ever see this thread somewhere). 1. Where did they originally get the sounds? 2. Did they ever get

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. Sadly, the following questions may never get answered, unless someone contacts David Phil, and all other gaming devs directly (or if they ever see this thread somewhere). 1. Where did they originally get the sounds? 2. Did they ever get

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. Sadly, the following questions may never get answered, unless someone contacts David Phil, and all other gaming devs directly (or if they ever see this thread somewhere). 1. Where did they originally get the sounds? 2. Did they ever get

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. Sadly, the following questions may never get answered, unless someone contacts David Phil, and all other gaming devs directly (or if they ever see this thread somewhere). 1. Where did they originally get the sounds? 2. Did they ever get

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. Sadly, the following questions may never get answered, unless someone contacts David Phil, and all other gaming devs directly (or if they ever see this thread somewhere). 1. Where did they originally get the sounds? 2. Did they ever get

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. Sadly, the following questions may never get answered, unless someone contacts David Phil, and all other gaming devs directly (or if they ever see this thread somewhere). directly.Where did they originally get the sounds? Did they ever get

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. Yeah that was a really weird phrasing of your post queenslight:Quote:@188Same goes for all PCS Games really, and GMA Games too, since they are like brothers in how they work together.What exactly do you mean by same goes? You could argue

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. So, Jayde, my question is, will all PCS and GMA titles be nuked? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/583850/#p583850 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. couldn't some one run a newer and better working version... URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/583803/#p583803 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. *sighs* agreeing with 194 here.I know the mods want to be fair and deal with any games which are guilty, not just new ones, not just ones reported by devs. No, we have to treat all of them fairly. The trouble is this isn't really a fair

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. *sighs* agreeing with 194 here.I know the mods want to be fair and deal with any games which are guilty, not just new ones, not just ones reported by devs. No, we have to treat all of them fairly. The trouble is this isn't really a fair

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @Jeffb: And no, this is *not* a moderation post.Again. Concept clone. Manamon did not lift any specific assets from Pokemon, including but not limited to: specific character/creature names, locations, sounds, etc. Assets, trade-names

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. I would just like to point out that Pokemon-like is such a common theme that there's literally a trope for it. Temtem and a couple animes have been mentioned, but there's clearly a lot more of these.https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. This endless gray area discussion is once again why I suggested only allowing directly affected parties to make official complaints, as to massively reduce the amount of second guessing necessary and the subsequent backlash which always

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. Manamon isn't a gray area.  Manamon is fine.  I have no interest in playing it and don't understand the Pokemon craze in the slightest, but I don't know why people keep turning these discussions into "you can't copy ideas for your

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @Jeffb: And no, this is *not* a moderation post.Again. Concept clone. Manamon did not lift any specific assets from Pokemon, including but not limited to: specific character/creature names, locations, sounds, etc. Assets, trade-names

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @Jeffb: Again. Concept clone. Manamon did not lift any specific assets from Pokemon, including but not limited to: specific character/creature names, locations, sounds, etc. Assets, trade-names, and specific game elements are copyrightable

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @Jeffb: Again. Concept clone. Manamon did not lift any specific assets from Pokemon, including but not limited to: specific character/creature names, locations, sounds, etc. Assets, trade-names, and specific game elements are copyrightable

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @Jeffb: Again. Concept clone. Manamon did not lift any specific assets from Pokemon, including but not limited to: specific character/creature names, locations, sounds, etc. Concepts are not copyrightable. And that is that. Your efforts

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @Jeffb: Still holding onto that 2016 view I see?Again. Concept clone. Manamon did not lift any specific assets from Pokemon, including but not limited to: specific character/creature names, locations, sounds, etc. Concepts

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. And I feel that Manamon is more of a direct rip off of Pokemon which turns it into a gray area as you said. So that one slides under the table? URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/583717/#p583717 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. No. In the case of Sarah, it's the fact that you're straight-up using someone else's intellectual property (seriously, freaking Hogwarts Castle in detail) in order to help you turn a profit. I'm actually surprised this one has lasted

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @188Same goes for all PCS Games really, and GMA Games too, since they are like brothers in how they work together.Yes, Phil and David gave credit to the music used in said games but, that won't be enough to cover their bases anymore

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. First of all, there will be no nasty surprises from the staff team. I trust most of you can agree that we've been pretty transparent about this whole thing. Yes, we mishandled the Vast Horizon thing, if only because it looked like we were

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. I standby post #155. I want to know though where's the line? Will clearly game rip offs like Manamon and Sarah and The Castle of Wizardry still be allowed? I understand why those games were made because they were games we all wanted to play

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. Unfortunately, applying the rule only to future titles kind of defeats the purpose. It means that past titles with copyright issues could still very well get us in trouble. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/583677/#p583677

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. I see the issues with the vote idea, but the mods would be making the proposals, and as I'm not suggesting that one of the proposals be (get rid of all anti piracy rules) I don't think it's as bad as people believe.Also, maybe straw poll

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. I see the issues with the vote idea, but the mods would be making the proposals, and as I'm not suggesting that one of the proposals be (get rid of all anti piracy rules) I don't think it's as bad as people believe.Also, maybe straw poll

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. Actually, that makes my point.  Whois likes to point at the thing being resold, not the thing that they're buying the domain through.  Click that link and the very first thing you see is them advertising to people who might want to become

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. !182Agreed. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/583587/#p583587 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/audiogames-reflector

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @181, namecheap was just an example. Metaregistrar is probably similar. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/583578/#p583578 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @180Well, they aren't using Name Cheap...https://www.metaregistrar.com/, is what they're using. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/583569/#p583569 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @177Whois is useless for finding actual info about domains.  That doesn't tell anyone anything anyone who wants to do something needs to know.  It's a long explanation but the short version is that you go through something like namecheap

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @178, not necessarily. They've probably got an automatic renewal setup going, so we'll see nothing from them. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/583556/#p583556 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. queenslight wrote:Well, since folks wanted the info...https://www.whois.com/whois/audiogames.netAnd the highlights:Domain:audiogames.netRegistrar:Metaregistrar BVRegistered On:2002-11-12Expires On:2020-11-12Updated On:2019-11

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. Well, since folks wanted the info...https://www.whois.com/whois/audiogames.netAnd the highlights:Domain:audiogames.netRegistrar:Metaregistrar BVRegistered On:2002-11-12Expires On:2020-11-12Updated On:2019-11-13Status:okName

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. Well, since folks wanted the info...https://www.whois.com/whois/audiogames.netAnd the highlights:Domain:audiogames.netRegistrar:Metaregistrar BVRegistered On:2002-11-12Expires On:2020-11-12Updated On:2019-11-13Status:okName

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. I mean, has anyone tried to get some sort of access to pull a backup?  If someone can pull a backup of the server, there's a number of us who could run it.  Audiogames.net itself should cost a grand total of $12 to $15 a month to run

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. To be clear, I'm not happy about the webmasters being largely absent. However, I don't think it's salient right this second.We're here because they're not. If they do come back, then they can decide what to do about this. If they don't come

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @173, problem is that, to my knowledge, we have no way of getting in touch with the webmasters. And we can't just build a new sight as you suggested earlier because the amount of work to do that would be infeasible. We additionally don't

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. ironcross32 wrote:+1 @170.My feelings on the matter have calmed significantly owing to the fact they've come out and said they're not going to be blasting everything in sight. And I see why it doesn't make sense to put every big decision

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. +1 @170.My feelings on the matter have calmed significantly owing to the fact they've come out and said they're not going to be blasting everything in sight. And I see why it doesn't make sense to put every big decision to a vote. Order has

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. Echoing what Carter said, and amplifying it here.Our system, if we go forward with it, is going to be based on the fact that if someone asks for a particular dev or project to be investigated, the onus is on that person to present strong

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. The underlying point I made has not been addressed. The problem here isn't even that some games have copyrighted sounds; in fact that's fine...you get a takedown request, you investigate, you take down. That's how these things work.The

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. I'd just like to clarify something.Liam wrote:Agreed.And that's one major reason why I don't plan on releasing anything else here. I really do see a day where devs are going to have to justify every asset they use. I'm not happy

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. I'd just like to clarify something.Liam wrote:Agreed.And that's one major reason why I don't plan on releasing anything else here. I really do see a day where devs are going to have to justify every asset they use. I'm not happy

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. You know what? I really like Liam's point in 166. I'm going to publicly come out and say, could this also be an option, I'm saying this as a fellow db editor. This option came in and out of my mind a few times, and I still like the idea

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. You know what? I really like Liam's point in 166. I'm going to publicly come out and say, could this also be an option, I'm saying this as a fellow db editor. This option came in and out of my mind a few times, and I still like the idea

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. You know what? I really like Liam's point in 166. I'm going to publicly come out and say, could this also be an option, I'm saying this as a fellow db editor. This option came in and out of my mind a few times, and I still like the idea

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. You know what? I really like Liam's point in 166. I'm going to publicly come out and say, could this also be an option, I'm saying this as a fellow db editor. This option came in and out of my mind a few times, and I still like the idea

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @166Fair doesn't exactly factor in.  I don't honestly care if old entries are redacted or not but at the end of the day it's about the law, not about what people here might think.  I honestly don't know how there haven't been a flood

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. Would a fair compromise be to not edit existing entries, however hold future entries to higher standards?I'm all for preserving the past as well. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/583489/#p583489 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. I am neither entirely for nor entirely against changes of this sort, but I will say this much. People in this community don’t like change. We are all stuck in the past. We're on a Website which is running rather outdated form software

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. I am neither entirely for nor entirely against changes of this sort, but I will say this much. People in this community don’t like change. We are all stuck in the past. We're on a Website which is running rather outdated form software

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. I am neither entirely for nor entirely against changes of this sort, but I will say this much. People in this community don’t like change. We are all stuck in the past. We're on a website which is running on outdated stuff. Until recently

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. God. Probably not worth me chiming in at all, but this topic boils down to I'm pissed because the forum can't allow illegal activity.  Come on guys.  There's a billion sources of free sounds on the internet.  Here's a revolutionary idea

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @162Yep? It's been awhile. Not extremely long ago, but it's been awhile. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/583470/#p583470 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. SendermenRegistered: 2005-02-05Last post: 2019-09-26 5:46 am URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/583467/#p583467 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. SendermenRegistered: 2005-02-05Last post: 2019-09-26-2019 URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/583467/#p583467 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. So I have a couple of theoretical questions I need to ask, and have answered, before I feel comfortable with this.Bear in mind, first and foremost, that I'm generally pro-democracy. I just have some problems I'd like to see some answers

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. It's been a super long time. Both of them are working and raising families as far as I know now. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/583458/#p583458 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. Hmmm...When was the last time they even posted on here?But yes, they do need to have a say. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/583456/#p583456 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. I disagree with the straw pole idea as it would be very easy to spoof votes ETC.if the existing forum system tracks only allowing logged in users to vote then that is the best idea.I do however agree that this should be a user vote, and I

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. I also agree with the Straw Poll idea.Would get people outside of this forum to vote because of it. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/583443/#p583443 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. I think this should be a user vote as well.  Let the mods put forward the proposals (in plane English!) with simple for and against arguments, but let the forum make the ultimate decision.Do it with a more secure system than the forum, like

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. Hi,I want to start by firstly saying that I don’t condone anyone stealing or using copyrighted material they don’t own the rights to, whether that be sounds, ideas, code or anything else. I  understand  the reason why the Mods have decided

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. So, the key posts that sum up everything are:131144 through 145148 through 152What do the above posts all come down too?From time to time I'll still pop into the Off Topic Room. For game related stuff though? That place is Twitter

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. So, the key posts that sum up everything are:131144145148 through 152What do the above posts all come down too?From time to time I'll still pop into the Off Topic Room. For game related stuff though? That place is Twitter. URL: https

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. Are we seriously having this one again?The problem appears to be that the webmasters are inactive and wouldn't be able to respond to DMCA requests. This doesn't only create a problem in terms of copyright, it's a problem full stop. Honestly

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. Let's put this in perspective, shall we? and Before any mods come at me with the "We're not targeting all of these! Please Don't Kill us! We Can't Please Everyone!"PB games since I'm assuming phillip didn't have his license for

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. Putting aside whether or not the assets are legal for a moment, audiogames probably aren't the only things that make use of stock sounds. Sometimes sounds in an English dub of an anime (like Yu-Gi-Oh!) have sounds changed to more familiar

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. Agreed.And that's one major reason why I don't plan on releasing anything else here. I really do see a day where devs are going to have to justify every asset they use. I'm not happy with it, and I refuse to support it from a development

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. going to address this since I didn't clarify well enough.  @Liam, that's precisely what I'm not suggesting, but which is one of those things that is getting under my skin and overlooked at present.  It puts the burden entirely on you

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @Liam, that's precisely what I'm not suggesting, but which is one of those things that is getting under my skin and overlooked at present.  It puts the burden entirely on you and other reputable, legit devs who do own this content, because

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. 144:Just for the record, I own licenses for the sound ideas libs I used. So does Philip. I wanted to clarify that since I kind of feel like you're suggesting that we didn't. Apologies if I'm misreading that, but it got my haggles up a bit

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. I agree with people who say to consult with copyright experts. Its really the best thing to do in this situation. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/583325/#p583325 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @defender I fully agree with you. Not sure if it's going to play out like that, though. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/583319/#p583319 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @musicalmanThis is why I was insisting that only the most affected party should be the one to make the official request for it to be taken down, in order to reduce the impact on the database especially with older games and to focus

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. Guys, lets wait and see.  Honestly, I think this thing went way out of hand on all sides, and there is a lot that's still not being considered, such as why someone should be given the benefit of a doubt versus someone else who might

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @141, there's the audiogames archive as well. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/583303/#p583303 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin-gucukoglu.com/cgi-bin/mailman

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change.

Re: enough is enough, and it's time for a change. @141See post @131.Others will take up the challenge if AGNet won't. URL: https://forum.audiogames.net/post/583267/#p583267 -- Audiogames-reflector mailing list Audiogames-reflector@sabahattin-gucukoglu.com https://sabahattin

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