[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Check your hearing

2006-08-31 Thread Patrick Dixon
Mark Lanctot;132395 Wrote: Oh and regarding aliasing - I also see this if you're in a prop plane and you take a look at a reflection of the prop (strangely, a reflection, say in a puddle, not directly). The prop will seem to become stationary or go backwards as the pilot starts or stops it

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] prove squeezebox doesn't upsample?

2006-08-31 Thread chaotic33
I have been using the file diatonis_dts_tatu.wav which you can find on the internet to test if my pc configuration with kernel streaming was not upsampling on my dts capable receiver. If I play this file on my new squeezebox it plays static. I know that this isn't a full proof test but is there

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: prove squeezebox doesn't upsample?

2006-08-31 Thread Patrick Dixon
AFIAC all 24 bit WAV files (streamed as WAV) play as 'static'. The SB2/3 DAC does oversample. -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk Patrick Dixon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=90 View this

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: prove squeezebox doesn't upsample?

2006-08-31 Thread sbjaerum
chaotic33;132420 Wrote: I have been using the file diatonis_dts_tatu.wav which you can find on the internet to test if my pc configuration with kernel streaming was not upsampling on my dts capable receiver. If I play this file on my new squeezebox it plays static. I know that this isn't a

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: prove squeezebox doesn't upsample?

2006-08-31 Thread sbn
The Squeezebox (have only tested v3) does NOT resample the signal. Period. When playing CD music, my receiver says 44.1 kHz, like the original material When playing a DTS-wav file, my receiver is decoding the DTS signal, as long as the digital out is used and volume is set to max or disabled

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: prove squeezebox doesn't upsample?

2006-08-31 Thread chaotic33
So it has to do with not letting SB do anything to volume. I'll test it out when I'm back home. I got the SB yesterday and i am quite pleased with it. I connect it to a primare spa21, audio physics virgo. Found out that optical connection seemed to sound a bit murky compared to coaxial. Also

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: prove squeezebox doesn't upsample?

2006-08-31 Thread Patrick Dixon
chaotic33;132470 Wrote: Also heard a flac file gets clipped at the startWhere did you hear that? -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk Patrick Dixon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=90 View this

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: prove squeezebox doesn't upsample?

2006-08-31 Thread Phil Leigh
Patrick Dixon;132472 Wrote: Where did you hear that? doesn't do that as far as I can see! -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: prove squeezebox doesn't upsample?

2006-08-31 Thread chaotic33
I didn't hear it being said. I actually heard that numerous times playing music through my sb yesterday. The first half a second or so of a song after pressing play is skipped. Other tracks of the same playlist seem to be ok. Maybe my english is a bit akward because it's not my native language.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Ripping to FLAC selectively: good or bad idea?

2006-08-31 Thread chaotic33
I've ripped my entire collection (even if was certain never to play someting again in my life) to flac, which was quite a lot of work even using three pc's simultaneously. With about 500+ albums it comes down to about 120 gigs. For modern hdd's its not so much a problem but (certainly if one of

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: prove squeezebox doesn't upsample?

2006-08-31 Thread Phil Leigh
try setting settings/player/audio/startup time to 0.5 (half a second) and see if that helps. Could be your DAC needs some time to lock on when a new stream starts? -- Phil Leigh Phil Leigh's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: prove squeezebox doesn't upsample?

2006-08-31 Thread Wombat
chaotic33;132470 Wrote: Also heard a flac file gets clipped at the start and the answer to that according to this forum would be to let the server stream wav through the network. Try that as well than. If not i'm afraid we have another topic on our hands :) This was indeed a bug but is

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MP3 to FLAC

2006-08-31 Thread cheetah
I wonder if it is worth the effort to convert MP3 to FLAC. Is the info lost in mp3 really lost? Would the conversion to FLAC make any sense? Is the conversion analogus to 24bit upsampling from 16bit? -- cheetah

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: MP3 to FLAC

2006-08-31 Thread autopilot
The data lost when compressing to MP3 is lost forever. The FLACS will sound the same. You will just end up with bigger files, absolutly no point. -- autopilot *SlimServer Version:* 6.5b1 - 9182 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252. *Amp:* Cambridge Audio 640a (living room) / Demon MD30 (bedroom).

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: prove squeezebox doesn't upsample?

2006-08-31 Thread chaotic33
I got my sb yesterday and downloaded the server then. The sb did some sort of auto-update when it was first connected so i guess i'm up to date. -- chaotic33 chaotic33's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: MP3 to FLAC

2006-08-31 Thread ezkcdude
If this thread triggers a debate (the great mp3 to FLAC tweak!), I think I will banish myself from this forum forever. -- ezkcdude SB3-Derek Shek TDA1543/CS8412 NOS DAC-MIT Terminator 2 interconnects-Endler Audio 24-step Attenuators (RCA-direct)-Parasound Halo A23 125W/ch amplifier-Speltz

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: MP3 to FLAC

2006-08-31 Thread aubuti
autopilot;132505 Wrote: The data lost when compressing to MP3 is lost forever. The FLACS will sound the same. You will just end up with bigger files, absolutly no point. All true, but there actually _might_ be some point to doing it. I'd say that 90% of my tagging problems with slimserver

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Ripping to FLAC selectively: good or bad idea?

2006-08-31 Thread Skunk
ezkcdude;132351 Wrote: Well, I've been told as much in this forum. If this* thread is what you speak of, I believe people were only saying it's illegal to make a copy, then sell it. ezkcdude;132351 Wrote: I checked this out, and although legal, it seems sketchy to me. Considering that

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: MP3 to FLAC

2006-08-31 Thread Heimiko
If my memory serves me well, the native MP3 decoding on the squeezebox uses all its 24 bits to make the stream as accurate as can be, while decoding the MP3 stream to FLAC on the computer would only use 16 (possibly depending on the implementation of the software decoder). But if this were the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: MP3 to FLAC

2006-08-31 Thread Phil Leigh
Heimiko;132585 Wrote: If my memory serves me well, the native MP3 decoding on the squeezebox uses all its 24 bits to make the stream as accurate as can be, while decoding the MP3 stream to FLAC on the computer would only use 16 (possibly depending on the implementation of the software

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Stereophile review

2006-08-31 Thread Skunk
Pale Blue Ego;129668 Wrote: JA was impressed. The SB3 is now his main source component. Stumbled across some Squeezebox porn: http://forum.stereophile.com/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/165/password//sort/1/cat/2/page/7 I need to buy that issue before it's oop, or I wonder if it's on the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: prove squeezebox doesn't upsample?

2006-08-31 Thread chaotic33
Changing volume output to fixed : can now play aforementioned file.. As for the clipped beginnings. It's worse than I remebered. I set to startup time to a ridiculous 5 seconds and still it starts (after 5 seconds) as clipped as before. Also i disabled wav-flac and flac-flac to force the server

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: MP3 to FLAC

2006-08-31 Thread funkstar
aubuti;132525 Wrote: All true, but there actually _might_ be some point to doing it... I almost screamed then i read that, but thankfully the rest of the post made sense :D And yes, i can completely understand the logic of doing it for *that* reason. Might be a good idea for some people

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: prove squeezebox doesn't upsample?

2006-08-31 Thread radish
chaotic33;132652 Wrote: Changing volume output to fixed : can now play aforementioned file.. As for the clipped beginnings. It's worse than I remebered. I set to startup time to a ridiculous 5 seconds and still it starts (after 5 seconds) as clipped as before. Also i disabled wav-flac and

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Stereophile review

2006-08-31 Thread SoftwireEngineer
Pale Blue Ego;129668 Wrote: ... JA was impressed. The SB3 is now his main source component. He still uses a multi-megabuck disc player for really critical listening, but says the difference between that and the SB3 is very minor, and often hard to distinguish. ... I dont think it is

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: prove squeezebox doesn't upsample?

2006-08-31 Thread jbm0
chaotic33;132652 Wrote: As for the clipped beginnings. It's worse than I remebered. I set to startup time to a ridiculous 5 seconds and still it starts (after 5 seconds) as clipped as before.. I certainly haven't encountered that problem. Have you tried listening to the SB's analog outputs,

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] High Bit Rate MP3 vs Lossless Compression

2006-08-31 Thread peejay
Hi All, I spent a lot of time and effort ripping my CDs to 256 kbps mp3 (using a Lame encoder) before I heard of FLAC. My questions relate to perceived audio quality vs a purist's view of the situation. I did some research prior to choosing the bitrate and the general consensus was that above 192

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: High Bit Rate MP3 vs Lossless Compression

2006-08-31 Thread ezkcdude
Can *you* hear any difference? If you can't, then I would only do it if you have nothing better to do. I'm in a worse situation than you. I originally ripped everything in 128kbps, before finding out about FLAC. Now, for every new CD I've bought since then, I encode a very high quality VBR mp3

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: prove squeezebox doesn't upsample?

2006-08-31 Thread chaotic33
Unfortunately i have very little testing time right now.. Get home at 23u55 and have to be in the car at 8u I did start a flac with a distinctive start from the computer and it played ok. I then started from the sb and the start was clipped. If I start again it is ok. If I play some other music