[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: High Bit Rate MP3 vs Lossless Compression

2006-09-20 Thread peejay
Hmm, and after some reasonably exhaustive listening tests against Joni Mitchell's Court and Spark - Opening Piano in 'Same Situation', there is a noticeable reduction of hammer noise (or maybe the damper or soft pedal moise) when listening to 256 Bps encoded mp3 vs Flacs, what else may be

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-20 Thread Mike Anderson
^^^ I know %*$#-all about EE, but I too bought a nice glass toslink cable to go between my SB2 and a DAC1, and it makes a nice difference, to my ears anyway. Until I win the lottery, I've no desire whatsoever to spend thousands of dollars on a high end transporter, as I seriously doubt any

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: High Bit Rate MP3 vs Lossless Compression

2006-09-20 Thread Mike Anderson
If you must encode with MP3 at anything less than 320 kbps, you should really be using VBR (variable bit rate) encoding. -- Mike Anderson 'FREE RADICAL RADIO!' (http://nvo.com/cd) Hours of free radical MP3s. Mike

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 1K Balanced impedance

2006-09-20 Thread ceejay
[EMAIL PROTECTED];137455 Wrote: Eh? What's that you're saying? Speak up a bit lad, and stop mumbling. And what's worse - I say WHAT'S WORSE - is you can't get proper steel needles any more either.. And then they amplified it, It was much LOUDER then. So you sharpened finer

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 1K Balanced impedance

2006-09-20 Thread cunobelinus
You took the words right out of my keyboard. (Except that it's fibre not finer needles. Don't ask me why - I'm not that old - but it's here in black and white in front of me in The Songs of Michael Flanders and Donald Swann, Elm Tree Books and St George's Press, 1977 price £6.50, also

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 1K Balanced impedance

2006-09-20 Thread ceejay
Its actually in At the Drop of a Hat, not Another prompted by your post I just went and listened very carefully, and you're right! I have to say I prefer my version, but never mind... Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: 1K Balanced impedance

2006-09-20 Thread cunobelinus
Thanks, Ceejay, yes, I couldn't remember which one it was in without digging up the box (which is currently at the very bottom of the "just digitised" pile somewhere in the deepest innermost recesses of my den) or else firing up, and taking an eternity to search through on, the Squeezebox, of

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeeze Box digital output format

2006-09-20 Thread SuperQ
SuperQ;137663 Wrote: according to: http://slimdevices.com/pi_squeezebox.html the SB2/3 can do 24bit/48khz. but not 96khz. oh.. I just saw another thread (and read the 6.5.0 release notes) the latest SB2/3 firmware will downsample 96khz to 48khz.. -- SuperQ

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-20 Thread SoftwireEngineer
Paul, Mike et. al I am using a Sound Professionals glass toslink ($50). I also have the lesser priced one. I am told the same glass toslink is available on partsexpress for $30. I am using a Furman PowerFactor Pro and Blue Circle MR1200 balanced power conditioner daisy chained, with VHAUdio and

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-20 Thread occam
Softwire, While the Panny's sound isn't my cuppa, that is subjective. Given your components, I'd say you're done and should enjoy it and not obscess over further upgrades, as you'd be climbing a very steep cost vs. benefit slope. Kudos, Paul PS - Apologies to the forum participants for the OT

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: High Bit Rate MP3 vs Lossless Compression

2006-09-20 Thread Pale Blue Ego
Probably a good idea to re-rip to FLAC. That way, you are certain of getting 100% of the sound quality, you have an effective backup of your CD collection, and you NEVER have to rip again. Even if you can only hear minor differences between quality mp3 files and FLAC files, the differences are

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-20 Thread SoftwireEngineer
Coming back to the topic, I agree with Horizons characterization of Stereophile and JA, for the most part. But JA is one of the most technical guys in the audio review business and Stereophile is one of the first to report on any new technology developments/breakthroughs. For example, it is the

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeeze Box digital output format

2006-09-20 Thread PaulB
Thanks a lot. I feel so good the SB can do things other than just 16/44.1, especially when I will use a DAC and digital recorder capable of higher rates. Testing a simple recording made with 16/44.1 and 16/48 made clear how better sounding the latter is: more air, fuller, more lifelike. Can't

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-20 Thread Jeff Moore
2006-09-20-13:28:12 SoftwireEngineer: (Thanks Paul, I am looking a better 'pure digital amplifier' in the $1-$2K category to replace the Panny with. But nobody seems to be taking up this bracket yet. Actually... are you in the US? It looks as if TacT's summer sale price for the S2150 might

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] elpac ps

2006-09-20 Thread tomjtx
There is 1 elpac left at electronicsurplus.com. for only 17.50. they are 40.00 elsewhere. Had mine sent directly to Bolder for mods...add about 7.50 for shippingstill pretty cheap -- tomjtx tomjtx's

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Clock Sync Cable

2006-09-20 Thread WSLam
In anticipation of the Transporter, I will be using the Transporter digital out into my DCC2 SE and since the DCC2 SE has a clock out, I could connect it to the Transporter clock in. So I need a BNC to BNC cable. What kind of cable? Anything will do? Or is there a certain type of wiring I need

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2006-09-20 Thread WSLam
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2006-09-20 Thread ipy
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: transporter -- who's got it?

2006-09-20 Thread highdudgeon
c'mon, who's got one?! -- highdudgeon SB3-Lavry DA10-Nuforce 9.02s-Harbeth Monitor 30s/Skylan stands. Simple and satisfying. In a larger room, I would move back to larger speakers, subs, and probably RCS. highdudgeon's

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: transporter -- who's got it?

2006-09-20 Thread TiredLegs
Slim Devices says the offer for a free SB with Transporter purchase will disappear once the Transporter begins shipping. Since the offer is still up, I think they haven't begun shipping yet, despite the original estimated shipping date. -- TiredLegs

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Best Internet Review Site

2006-09-20 Thread Scott
Is there is reliable, unbiased publication that reviews audiophile equipment online? scott -- Scott Scott's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=229 View this thread:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-20 Thread TiredLegs
SoftwireEngineer;137689 Wrote: it is the stereophile article on jitter, which helped me understand this concept and this came 10 or 15 years earlier !!! Audiophile magazines need jitter, or another concept like it, in order to have a basis for distinguishing between digital sources. Otherwise,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: transporter -- who's got it?

2006-09-20 Thread dean blackketter
Me. :) Patrick posted this: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php? t=27536 We had a slight delay on some of the case parts, so we haven't shipped out any of the backordered units yet, but we expect the first units to go out in the next day or so. The production team is

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeeze Box digital output format

2006-09-20 Thread PaulB
SuperQ;137663 Wrote: according to: http://slimdevices.com/pi_squeezebox.html the SB2/3 can do 24bit/48khz. but not 96khz. SuperQ, When I tried to play some 16 bits/48 Khz WAV files from HD, how come all I get is white noise? The SB should do 16/48, and my AS NOS DAC should handle

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Best Internet Review Site

2006-09-20 Thread adamslim
Sorry to be unhelpful, but there is no audio review publication, online or otherwise, that could be considered either reliable or unbiased - flames welcome ;) The only way is to listen for yourself. Forget A-B testing, solid diamond cables, jitter and distortion - just listen to whatever you

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Owner's Guide

2006-09-20 Thread pc4ever1
Found this today .. http://www.slimdevices.com/su_documentation.html http://www.slimdevices.com/mint/pepper/orderedlist/downloads/download.php?file=http%3A//www.slimdevices.com/documentation/Transporter-Owners-Guide.pdf -- pc4ever1

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Clock Sync Cable

2006-09-20 Thread Jeff Moore
2006-09-20-15:13:09 WSLam: So I need a BNC to BNC cable. What kind of cable? Anything will do? Or is there a certain type of wiring I need for the clock sync? I don't think there are too many weird options here. I assume you just want some sort of BNC-terminated coax which is as close as

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-20 Thread P Floding
TiredLegs;137747 Wrote: Audiophile magazines need jitter, or another concept like it, in order to have a basis for distinguishing between digital sources. Otherwise, all digital sources would sound the same, assuming no bit errors. Then they wouldn't have anything to write about. I have to

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-20 Thread highdudgeon
It is certainly true for the Lavry, which is a re-clocker that does it right. The issue really isn't perfecting transports. So long as they are bit-perfect, they're fine; the point is perfecting the DAC and devising solid re-clocking and de-jittering schemes. This isn't just my opinion. But,

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2006-09-20 Thread highdudgeon
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2006-09-20 Thread Skunk
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-20 Thread opaqueice
Out of curiosity, how exactly can a re-clocking DAC work? The clock in the DAC will never run at exactly the same speed as the clock in the source because the crystals are slightly different. That means data is coming in at a different rate than it's going out. I suppose the DAC could pause

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why does SB3 sound better than cd?

2006-09-20 Thread brclow
I've had my SB3 a few months now, but just recently finally got around to comparing the same tracks played from cd vs. an apple lossless file over my squeezebox. To my amazement, the squeezebox sounded significantly better, on every track. I definitely found that the soundstage was deeper and

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-20 Thread tomjtx
highdudgeon;137335 Wrote: Whoever claims to hear a difference between Apple Lossless and AIFF, or pretty much anythign else, is smoking something funny. I don't claim to hear a difference. The stereophile crowd does. ergo, they should compare aiff files to a cd to be consistent with their

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How Best To Attenuate Balanced Outs?

2006-09-20 Thread atkinsonrr
Hi-- I have a Transporter on the way and will be using the balanced analog outputs into balanced inputs on my amps. They will be connected via 2 meters of balanced cable. If I understand correctly, due to use of a digital volume control, theoretically the best sound would come from having

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-20 Thread tomjtx
mr_bill;137423 Wrote: The comment that Mauidan is referring too (in which the poster made no sense, as he didn't compare two similiar things but rather he compared using the SB3 as a tranport to SB3 with analogue out) In my opinion, if anyone thinks the SB3 analogue out sounds the same as

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-20 Thread tomjtx
Horizons;137485 Wrote: The pump and slam job is exactly what I expected and predicted out of Stereophile and JA. You just can't accept millions of dollars of advertising from high end companies and then come out and say the SB3 is in their league. So you do the gentlemenly thing that JA is

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: How Best To Attenuate Balanced Outs?

2006-09-20 Thread ezkcdude
You might be interested in Scott Endler's balanced attenuators. I have a pair of his single-ended ones, and they're great, and not expensive at all. If you're using the Transporter as your sole source (as I do the SB3), then passive attenuators are a great way to go. -- ezkcdude DIY projects

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Squeezebox Class D!

2006-09-20 Thread highdudgeon
I think you are absolutely right. tomjtx;137798 Wrote: I don't claim to hear a difference. The stereophile crowd does. ergo, they should compare aiff files to a cd to be consistent with their belief they can hear a difference. I don't claim NOT to hear a diference either. I don't think I