Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another powersupply for SB3

2007-02-25 Thread t2capa
Thanks for feedback. So. What you are saying is that I should go for a linear PS. Anyway - how can I measure ripple? Or what should be the highest ripple value I can accept? I'm living in Norway so I am not sure where to buy Herbach-Rademan's PS rgds T2Capa -- t2capa

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD Treatments?

2007-02-25 Thread opaqueice
GaryB;183146 Wrote: Or one could accept that these differences do exist and try to understand what's going on. I find it very telling that jhm721 found the differences to disappear once copied to a hard drive.Somehow the timing / jitter issues of the originals are getting replaced by

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MP3 Car FM Transmitters

2007-02-25 Thread khedspeth
Based on the system and the car, there are a number of products that allow you to connect directly into the car stereo via the cd changer inputs. I use one made for xmradio but connect the line input cable to my ipod if not using the xmradio. It is a cable connect but you don't have to worry

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-02-25 Thread GGHill
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MP3 Car FM Transmitters

2007-02-25 Thread Kyle
Why don't you check to see if you can hardwire a connection to the car radio? It shouldn't cost much, and you won't have to worry about inteference. -- Kyle Kyle's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] A photo of your Squeezebox setup (please)

2007-02-25 Thread Mark Lanctot
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD Treatments?

2007-02-25 Thread Mark Lanctot
325xi;183337 Wrote: That's interesting, I didn't know unreadable disk can really be repaired. What commercial kit do you use? Where can it be found? Since you're in Canada, you can pick up the same exact one I use at your local The Source (I hate that name). I posted about it here:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SACD and DVD-A recordings?

2007-02-25 Thread CarlOtto
MahlerFreak;182828 Wrote: I have been using a player modified by these folks: http://dvdupgrades.ch/digital_audio.html for a couple of years now to convert SACD to 24bit 88.2 Khz PCM for input into my Meridian system (which doesn't have DSD digital input). It outputs 24/96 from

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SACD and DVD-A recordings?

2007-02-25 Thread Pale Blue Ego
One way to capture SACD or DVD-A sound is not to rip it, but to digitize the analog output using a top-quality soundcard. You are going digital--analog--digital, but it's possible to get high-quality (24bit) stereo wav files that would be suitable for SB3 or Transporter. -- Pale Blue Ego

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD Treatments?

2007-02-25 Thread jhm731
325xi;183328 Wrote: I accept Nespa might improve readability of CD, which might cause to better sound on an appliance player. However if your CD could be read perfectly before treatment, nothing can make it better. And bit-identical rips cannot sound differently - they are just copies of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SACD and DVD-A recordings?

2007-02-25 Thread kcl
Pale Blue Ego;183471 Wrote: One way to capture SACD or DVD-A sound is not to rip it, but to digitize the analog output using a top-quality soundcard. You are going digital--analog--digital, but it's possible to get high-quality (24bit) stereo wav files that would be suitable for SB3 or

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SACD and DVD-A recordings?

2007-02-25 Thread Pat Farrell
kcl wrote: Pale Blue Ego;183471 Wrote: One way to capture SACD or DVD-A sound is not to rip it, but to digitize the analog output using a top-quality soundcard. You are going digital--analog--digital, but it's possible to get high-quality (24bit) stereo wav files that would be suitable for

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HDCD ripping

2007-02-25 Thread Eric Carroll
Here is my result from HDCD ripping. '[image: http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4905/hdcddj2.th.jpg]' (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hdcddj2.jpg) The test track is Mike Oldfield's 2000 remaster of Tublar Bells, Part 1. The upper trace is the 16b original EAC rip in WAV format.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another powersupply for SB3

2007-02-25 Thread Anne
I am also from Norway, maybe we met in another forum ? Anyway, you might find these interesting : http://www.clasohlson.no/Product/Product.aspx?id=383375 and http://www.mascot.no/pdf/8937.PDF The Mascot can be found on elfa.no They both cost app. the same, around 6-800,- You can also look at

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD Treatments?

2007-02-25 Thread Phil Leigh
jhm731;183472 Wrote: If you can accept that the Nespa might improve readability of CD, which might cause to better sound on an appliance player, why you did you make fun of the sixmoons review? BTW- What is an appliance player? An appliance player typically has one shot at reading the CD

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HDCD ripping

2007-02-25 Thread Phil Leigh
Eric Carroll;183498 Wrote: 'Here is my result from HDCD ripping.' (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hdcddj2.jpg) (this board does not appear to permit inline images). The test track is Mike Oldfield's 2000 remaster of Tublar Bells, Part 1. The upper trace is the 16b original

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HDCD ripping

2007-02-25 Thread Eric Carroll
Ok, yes, its scaled down. But why? Did you see the same thing or something different? -- Eric Carroll Transporter-Bryston 3B SST-Paradigm Reference Studio 60 v.4 SB3-Rotel RB890-BW Matrix 805 SB3-Pioneer VSX-49TXi-Mirage OM7+C2+R2 ReadyNAS NV+

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MP3 Car FM Transmitters

2007-02-25 Thread rplert
I have used the Kennsington transmitter on long road trips and it works fairly well. Its sound quality is definitely better than the Belkin I was using. However, you will find that you occasionally need to change the broadcast frequency and retune your radio because strong nearby stations do

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HDCD ripping

2007-02-25 Thread Phil Leigh
Eric Carroll;183511 Wrote: Ok, yes, its scaled down. But why? Did you see the same thing or something different? Well...yes I saw the same thing. The problem is that the relative peaks (ie the difference between the highest amplitude and 0dB) in 24 bit are no higher than at 16 bit. So it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MP3 Car FM Transmitters

2007-02-25 Thread ModelCitizen
I have the standard supplied Bose system in my Audi TT and it really rocks.. no complaints whatsoever... from my experience of this unit I can't see why people slag off Bose so much. It sounds much better than the Blaupunkt in my last vehicle (a VW Golf). I also use an iTrip to link up my iPod.

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-25 Thread kphinney
I've just setup my Squeezebox and Slimserver and have noticed an issue regarding the quality of my stored music vs that of streams: my music, regardless of quality, hits the Squeezebox at a lower VU than outside streams (Pandora, etc.). While the majority of my collection is 128-256 kbps, I have

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-25 Thread pablolie
It could be something as simple as inadvertent locking down of the volume on the RCA output from the SB if that's what you're using. I use the optical and an external DA function, and have never ever -despite some other issues- encountered a problem with volume levels. -- pablolie

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD Treatments?

2007-02-25 Thread pablolie
... An appliance player typically has one shot at reading the CD in real time - and is therefore more prone to all sorts of issues compared to using a ROM drive to rip with re-reads, buffered, asynchronously ... In that case the quality of the music using our regular CD players should

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-25 Thread kphinney
I am using digital TOC with volume locked, not RCA. With more experimentation I've found that the better the quality (1411, vs. 128kpbs) the higher the gain, but it doesn't seem to correlate completely: Streamed audio at 128 (mostlyclassical.com, groovesalad, etc) still has a much higher VU

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-25 Thread pablolie
any effect if your turn the gain stuff off? -- pablolie pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33095

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-25 Thread empty99
kphinney;183583 Wrote: Thanks pablolie. I am using digital TOC with volume locked, not RCA. With more experimentation I've found that the better the quality (1411, vs. 128kpbs) the higher the gain, but it doesn't seem to correlate completely: Streamed audio at 128 (mostlyclassical.com,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter:XLR v RCA

2007-02-25 Thread empty99
tomjtx;183108 Wrote: Same length, same brand and both short. your PRE likes XLR connection. In typical home environment and short cable lengths, the two type of connection should not make an audible difference. XLR only reject common-mode noise PU by the cable itself, as I understand it. --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another powersupply for SB3

2007-02-25 Thread tyler_durden
I am not saying you should get a linear supply. You are the first person I have seen that wants to change from one switching supply to another. Everyone else has wanted to go from a switcher to a linear supply to reduce noise from the power supply - at least that is what they think will happen.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-25 Thread pablolie
SB3-Optical-MF A3.24DAC-50kOhm pot-2 Naks PA7-BW N802- Nice! *Very* nice. Very nice indeed. -- pablolie pablolie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3816 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SACD and DVD-A recordings?

2007-02-25 Thread Eric Seaberg
The SACDs I have that I really want to listen to on Slim, I'm going to take the analog out of my player, re-record to 88.2k/24-bit and re-encode using DTS. I could also encode to Dolby, but it can't go over 48k sampling. It's a LOT of extra work just to avoid getting out of my chair to change a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD Treatments?

2007-02-25 Thread jhm731
Phil Leigh;183503 Wrote: An appliance player typically has one shot at reading the CD in real time - and is therefore more prone to all sorts of issues compared to using a ROM drive to rip with re-reads, buffered, asynchronously. Universal players have large RAM buffers. The disc spins at x2

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-25 Thread empty99
pablolie;183592 Wrote: SB3-Optical-MF A3.24DAC-50kOhm pot-2 Naks PA7-BW N802- Nice! *Very* nice. Very nice indeed. The originator of this thread mislabeled the quality for playback level. It's only a volume issue, not sound quality per se. In my system, the PC server SB3 playback level

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] How to increase quality of server side music...

2007-02-25 Thread pablolie
... The originator of this thread mislabeled the quality for playback level. I do think there are some standards for signal levels, so I think it would be unusual for different sources to have very different levels. Then again, I have tended to only and exclusively feed pure sources into my

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter:XLR v RCA

2007-02-25 Thread tomjtx
empty99;183588 Wrote: your PRE likes XLR connection. In typical home environment and short cable lengths, the two type of connection should not make an audible difference. XLR only reject common-mode noise PU by the cable itself, as I understand it. That's why I was was wondering if anyone

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HDCD ripping

2007-02-25 Thread Skunk
Eric Carroll;183511 Wrote: Ok, yes, its scaled down. But why? Did you see the same thing or something different? The guy in that thread used -6dB non-HDCD files, when comparing to decoded HDCD files- which is why his levels look similar. Even had you done this, your dynamic range looks

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another powersupply for SB3

2007-02-25 Thread Skunk
t2capa;183363 Wrote: Anyway - how can I measure ripple? ... I'm living in Norway so I am not sure where to buy Herbach-Rademan's PS rgds T2Capa You'd need an oscilloscope, custom probes, and lots of other bits with careful setup to measure ripple. There would probably be soldering

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] HDCD ripping

2007-02-25 Thread Eric Carroll
I have looked at this in Audacity and now in WaveLab Lite. I can report conclusively that the 24b Chronotron WAV plugin capture is exactly 6dB down from the 16b rip on the peaks. Is this expected? In essence the 24b capture is quieter and shows the same dynamic range. Personally I don't think

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD Treatments?

2007-02-25 Thread 325xi
jhm731;183472 Wrote: If you can accept that the Nespa might improve readability of CD, which might cause to better sound on an appliance player, why you did you make fun of the sixmoons review? Because they claimed the device to consistently improve how CD sounds. The only thing any CD

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] CD Treatments?

2007-02-25 Thread pablolie
... computer ripping has much better chances to retrieve the lost stuff ... At the risk of losing something else elsewhere. Flipped bits in SRAMs are quite likely. The thing is - they don't matter. Which is why the obsession with utter and constant bit perfection everywhere is a losing

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The bottleneck for the ultimate sound experience?

2007-02-25 Thread Audiofilia
When trying to reach the final solution to be able to skip totally the normal CD transport I'm struggling with the following question: What is to your experience the ultimate difference in a direct AB comparison between 1. CD feeding directly a DAC and compared to 2. Slimserver feeding Apple