Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Modifying the Squeezebox 3

2007-04-26 Thread mswlogo
GaryB, Why didn't you use a 75ohm thin coax from the BNC connector connected upstream. Seems to me that would have been obvious todo if you bothered to change the connector. It would have been shielded as well as impedance match. -- mswlogo -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-26 Thread mswlogo
95bcwh;197749 Wrote: > If all that matter is jitter..then why so many high end audio > manufacturers manage to co-exist? There is the original data and jitter (timing). What else is there? All the computer folk (my self included) assumed a CD was just bits and ignored timing. Ok, we all agree

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Experiments with bi-wire speaker cable

2007-04-26 Thread alZmtbr
In the interest of WAF, I decided to do away with the audioquest crystal speaker cable (someone here referred to it as Garden watering hose or some such). Step1 was to replace it with some Kimber 4PR that was going cheap on CAM (CanuckAudioMart), in doing so I went from bi-amp/bi-wire to bi-amp on

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 is equivalent to which CD Players or DACs?

2007-04-26 Thread amey01
Well, a stock SB3 (running ALAC) doesn't hold a candle to my Marantz 8300 universal. I have recently added a Musical Fidelity X-DAC, and while it has improved things quite a lot, it still doesn't come close to the Marantz. With what I've compared it to on my reference system, the order of sound

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I don't think it gets loud enough

2007-04-26 Thread discocarp
Honestly, this volume is more than acceptable. I think I more want to make sure I understand what's happening. The explanations about the pre you guys gave make sense. And, yes, now that I know I don't need the attenation I'll be switching it to XLR. :) -- discocarp --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I don't think it gets loud enough

2007-04-26 Thread Skunk
Since you don't need attenuation you could try a set of XLR cables. -- Skunk Skunk's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2685 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34811 ___

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I don't think it gets loud enough

2007-04-26 Thread seanadams
2 Vrms is all she does. If you want more you need a preamp, or you might pop the cover on your amp and see if its gain can be adjusted. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 Vi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I don't think it gets loud enough

2007-04-26 Thread PhilNYC
I think the input sensitivity on the Krell amp wants a higher voltage to get to max output (in other words, it probably wants the gain offered by using a preamp)... -- PhilNYC Sonic Spirits Inc. http://www.sonicspirits.com ---

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] I don't think it gets loud enough

2007-04-26 Thread discocarp
Setup is direct to amp. Transporter->Krell Kav 2250->Martin Logan Summits. I tried the attenuation, and have settled on NO attenuation. It still doesn't seem loud enough to me. It gets louder than I'm likely to play it 99% of the time. However, the yamaha receiver could play these speakers louder

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Active Speakers

2007-04-26 Thread Pneumonic
If you don't mind buying used and you can wait for them to show up on the used market, grab yourself a pair of Paradigm Active 20's or Active 40's. These are world class performers which will reproduce sound at very high quality levels. Of course finding a pair might be tough but well worth it if

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Got any last attenuation advice?

2007-04-26 Thread discocarp
tomjtx;197772 Wrote: > The TP sounds markedly better with balanced in my system with my > balanced Rowland amp. You might want to give it a try I don't doubt it, the problem is I'd need to pick up attenuators and the balanced cable just to try it. I still might in a little bit, but I have so man

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Got any last attenuation advice?

2007-04-26 Thread tomjtx
discocarp;197741 Wrote: > Check. I was going RCA for this reason exactly even though both the > transporter and the amp have XLR. > > Trying the balanced is an interesting idea, but I'll probably just > wait. Someday I'll be adding a preamp to this setup when I want to run > SACDs or another so

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Active Speakers

2007-04-26 Thread danaronson
A friend of mine based in Italy who is quite an audiophile has a company selling these (www.auxout.com). I haven't listened to them myself, but the reviews are good and I have a lot of faith in David. --dan -- danaronson --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Active Speakers

2007-04-26 Thread Andyoz
Having them that close does have one advantage, you get excellent coupling of the bass drivers and noticeable extra low-freq. punch. I at least have my actives the width of an SB3 apart though. -- Andyoz Andyoz's Profil

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Active Speakers

2007-04-26 Thread Robin Bowes
Keith wrote: > I've been using a pair of Fostex PM04's in the kitchen for a year and > they work fine. Each unit is bi-amped. I originally had a pair of JBL > Control 1's with a Quad 306 (oh and an attenuator due to the > sensitivity of the other half to loud music! - even 1 on the SB2 was > too lo

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-26 Thread 95bcwh
mswlogo;197289 Wrote: > And the fact that all that matters is jitter. > If all that matter is jitter..then why so many high end audio manufacturers manage to co-exist? -- 95bcwh 95bcwh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevic

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-26 Thread AndyC_772
Here's the output from the standard (UK spec "Unifive USK300520") SB3 power supply. Measurement bandwidth is probably only around 20MHz or so, my scope probe is rubbish and desperately needs upgrading. Load resistance is about 11 Ohms, so we're drawing a little under half an amp. Noise typically g

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Got any last attenuation advice?

2007-04-26 Thread discocarp
Check. I was going RCA for this reason exactly even though both the transporter and the amp have XLR. Trying the balanced is an interesting idea, but I'll probably just wait. Someday I'll be adding a preamp to this setup when I want to run SACDs or another source. I'll almost certainly go balanc

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-26 Thread cliveb
slimkid;197718 Wrote: > So, why else in the world, would anybody want to invest time and money > in modifying anything? Even for hobby or learning purposes, how can one > know he did it right if one can't tell by listening to it? I'm not trying to dissuade anyone from doing mods if they want to.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-26 Thread Phil Leigh
tyler_durden;197708 Wrote: > Consensus among whom? I certainly don't agree with this. Yes, it is a > possibility, but it is easily tested, and has been tested found not to > be an issue with the SB3 and its stock PS. The SB3 has a relatively > high powered radio transmitter in the SB3, as well

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-26 Thread Phil Leigh
ModelCitizen;197629 Wrote: > Gawd, don't you just love the men on this forum. If they can't kill off > a thread with an agument about jitter, abxing or somesuch they try your > car! > > MC Tee hee... The car is an easy one! -- Phil Leigh --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Got any last attenuation advice?

2007-04-26 Thread cliveb
discocarp;197733 Wrote: > The setup is: Transporter->Krell Kav 2250->Martin Logan Summits > > Any last advice on the attenuation? I was going to set it to -30, > listen, and move up as needed. Seems pretty simple. Any caveats? Remember that the built-in attenuators on the Transporter only work o

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Got any last attenuation advice?

2007-04-26 Thread discocarp
The last piece of my transporter puzzle (the amp) arrived and the new system goes live tonight. :) :) :) The setup is: Transporter->Krell Kav 2250->Martin Logan Summits Any last advice on the attenuation? I was going to set it to -30, listen, and move up as needed. Seems pretty simple. Any cavea

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-26 Thread slimkid
cliveb;197367 Wrote: > OK, you sound like someone who's not interested in doing any mods if > they don't make an audible improvement... So, why else in the world, would anybody want to invest time and money in modifying anything? Even for hobby or learning purposes, how can one know he did it ri

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-26 Thread AndyC_772
tyler_durden;197708 Wrote: > A large amount of noise on the DC output would be easily visible on an > oscilloscope. I'll hook my scope up and try to take a picture and post > it. Race you :) > As I stated before, a 6W power supply can't possibly put a large amount > of noise anywhere. It bare

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Active Speakers

2007-04-26 Thread Keith
I've been using a pair of Fostex PM04's in the kitchen for a year and they work fine. Each unit is bi-amped. I originally had a pair of JBL Control 1's with a Quad 306 (oh and an attenuator due to the sensitivity of the other half to loud music! - even 1 on the SB2 was too loud) but wanted to get

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-26 Thread tyler_durden
crooner;197618 Wrote: > > The consensus is that any RFI causing interruption of AM reception will > most likely affect the low level audio circuits. The audibility of this > will depend on the quality of your playback equipment and your own > ears. I particularly don't take any chances with this

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz Audio tips and initial impressions

2007-04-26 Thread inguz
Hmm. That's not completely OK, but it may be working properly - let's see. The line "EQ00E008B50B" means it's processing with an EQ filter corresponding to your settings in the plugin's UI. (You can find a file "EQ00E008B50B.filter" in the temp folder, rename as WAV and open it to see what the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What mods on SB3 REALLY make a difference in reducing jitter?

2007-04-26 Thread AndyC_772
A cheap SMPS usually does put out a lot of noise, both on its output and on its input. CE (and, to a lesser extent, FCC) regulations place limits on: - the amount of energy radiated off the system as a whole between frequencies of 30MHz and 1GHz; - the amount of noise conducted back up the mains

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Directly to amp, stresses the Transporter?

2007-04-26 Thread ModelCitizen
Phil Leigh;197597 Wrote: > Well...that says it all really: > 1) Audi - good but not great > 2) TT - Oh dear > So you have paid over the odds (unless you bought used) > welcome to he world of audiophilia :0) Gawd, don't you just love the men on this forum. If they can't kill off a thread with an a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Inguz Audio tips and initial impressions

2007-04-26 Thread SoftwireEngineer
inguz;197601 Wrote: > what do you see in the log.txt file? Inguz, This is what I have in the log file. This evaluation version will expire 11/1/2007 12:00:00 AM 20070423231915: 00:04:20:06:c2:2f Gain -16 dB 20070423231915: 00:04:20:06:c2:2f Tail 00:04:20:06:c2:2f 20070423231915: 00:04:20:06:c2: