Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Where to get SC7 with firmware v83?

2008-03-27 Thread kmchow98
adyc;284570 Wrote: > but your DAC has no problem distingushing it. Sound like > contradiction... In this mad world of an audiophile, nothing makes sense. Since it doesn't make sense, this isn't an issue that can be discussed and aligned upon. (we will just end up fighting :-) -- kmchow98

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Where to get SC7 with firmware v83?

2008-03-27 Thread adyc
kmchow98;284508 Wrote: > > > Speaking from experience... > Firmware changes WILL have some(very little) effect on everything. And > that includes the digital out. It's just too small to measure. > > but your DAC has no problem distingushing it. Sound like contradiction... -- adyc

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Where to get SC7 with firmware v83?

2008-03-27 Thread seanadams
kmchow98;284550 Wrote: > You're kidding right? No, I'm not kidding. Please explain your theory. Be as technical as you like. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ModWright Transporter experience: truth vs. beauty?

2008-03-27 Thread tomjtx
Jeez , everybody is being so nice...that's no fun :-) Let's have some flames are you guys a bunch of obama's , rising above? Let's have some hillary action, outrageous claims and flames. OK, I'll start. Anything with tubes suck...wait, I like tubes. OK, ted b your s

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Where to get SC7 with firmware v83?

2008-03-27 Thread kmchow98
seanadams;284533 Wrote: > Oh by all means, please do get more technical! You're kidding right? -- kmchow98 kmchow98's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13270 View this thread: http://forums.slimdev

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Where to get SC7 with firmware v83?

2008-03-27 Thread SuperQ
seanadams;284533 Wrote: > Oh by all means, please do get more technical! Sean, you should change your forum title to "Guy who writes firmware" ;-) -- SuperQ SuperQ's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?user

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Where to get SC7 with firmware v83?

2008-03-27 Thread seanadams
kmchow98;284508 Wrote: > > I could go alot further than this, but this is getting too techical.;-) Oh no, please do get more technical! -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can you hear the difference?

2008-03-27 Thread gcogger
Got it easily enough on my Aego speakers connected to the computer (at low volume) but, to be honest, that's a pretty poor clip for showing the difference. If I had to pick something that would sound OK at low bit rates, it would be something like that clip. It's only the little bit of high freq

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Where to get SC7 with firmware v83?

2008-03-27 Thread kmchow98
Phil Leigh;284398 Wrote: > Sorry, I was trying to discourage people from trying antique > firmware... > > I've yet to hear Sean ever truly comment on how the firmware could > affect the sound quality as rendered by an external DAC via the digital > output in any way. > > I just don't believe it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ModWright Transporter experience: truth vs. beauty?

2008-03-27 Thread mr_bill
I would agree on the stock sound - very transparent and revealing but the highs aren't 'tizzy,' just accurate and I have a very resolving system. Tizzy sounds like the stock unit would have a problem or be inaccurate. Thanks for your post Ted. Good to hear your thoughts. Bill -- mr_bill ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ModWright Transporter experience: truth vs. beauty?

2008-03-27 Thread ted_b
mr_bill;284492 Wrote: > I would agree on the stock sound - very transparent and revealing but > the highs aren't 'tizzy,' just accurate and I have a very resolving > system. Tizzy sounds like the stock unit would have a problem or be > inaccurate. > > Thanks for your post Ted. Good to hear you

Re: Virtual Dynamics Power 3 � 2000% Profit Margin

2008-03-27 Thread jsprag
zanash;284192 Wrote: > > Theres a very good explaination as to why the last few m make a > difference ..quote . If I owned that company that made those marketing claims (I refuse to label them "explanations") and they helped sell more cables then I would certainly classify them as very

Re: Virtual Dynamics Power 3 � 2000% Profit Margin

2008-03-27 Thread Deaf Cat
Interesting.. I believe I have a Power 3, on a boat, on its way to me, me thinks it could be a while getting here, but when it does, I'll pitch it against a nice solid core silver cable I have. Sound wise ;-) not build quality wise ;-) :-) -- Deaf Cat -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] ModWright Transporter experience: truth vs. beauty?

2008-03-27 Thread ted_b
Thanks for the kudos. And yes, you guys are correct about the "comparo." :) I did not have both products in my room at the same time. In fact they were at least a month apart, and my memory is what we're we talking about? Seriously, the stock sound was pretty evident, and not that diffic

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Where to get SC7 with firmware v83?

2008-03-27 Thread haunyack
Phil Leigh;284398 Wrote: > Sorry, I was trying to discourage people from trying antique firmware... I see your point. Some time ago I thought the FW15 angle was worth a shot as most tweakers are never satisfied with status-quo. As I remember there was a difference in the sound but I could not na

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Where to get SC7 with firmware v83?

2008-03-27 Thread Phil Leigh
haunyack;284148 Wrote: > Be nice. > This, after all is a public forum, intended for public discourse. > A reponse like yours only discourages others with differing > opinion/experience. > > All our base are not belong to you. here> > > . Sorry, I was trying to discourage people from trying an

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Where to get SC7 with firmware v83?

2008-03-27 Thread haunyack
tomjtx;284222 Wrote: > I like the chocolate bloom of 83's mids coupled with the strawberry > syrup of the highs and whipped cream of the bass. I'll bet your dentist loves you. FW15 expresses a salty, spicefull approach with a fruity bloom finish. . -- haunyack Transporter |

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Where is the Phase at the Transporters Connector?

2008-03-27 Thread bigfool1956
Of course that well designed gear gets chucked in and out of vans, and is generally abused. After a while it gains a few 'roadie repairs', and then the funs starts. I lost count of the amount of back line stuff I had to rewire after the RCDs got tripped by rotten repairs. Good ones were: Wires s

Re: Virtual Dynamics Power 3 � 2000% Profit Margin

2008-03-27 Thread bigfool1956
The generally accepted rule of thumb for the hifi industry is a 1:10 ratio of cost of parts to bricks and morter retail. Taking that, $15 of components would, on average equate to $150. -- bigfool1956 David Ayers Music is what counts, hifi just helps us enjoy it more -

Re: Virtual Dynamics Power 3 � 2000% Profit Margin

2008-03-27 Thread seanadams
WHO CARES what the part cost or the markup is? Then dang thing is so poorly made that at best it'll barely work, and it worst it'll burn your house down. Conductors pinched in the connector housing - come on! This product is absolutely worthless, is illegal to sell without UL approval, and frankl

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can you hear the difference?

2008-03-27 Thread radish
th00ht;284119 Wrote: > Eurotrash: no difference (actually 24kbit sounds the best) Jazz: 192VBR > or 320CBR are not enough. Listen to the decaying cymble with > headphone/good speakers. Choral/orchestral works: only FLAC 24/96 is > acceptable. Interesting, for me I'd say the exact opposite. But o

Re: Virtual Dynamics Power 3 � 2000% Profit Margin

2008-03-27 Thread servies
adamslim;283720 Wrote: > Yeah cutting out the EMI from the last metre, ignoring the 100+km agross > the grid, always struck me as kinda pointless. > > I DIY'd my mains cables. It's always satisfying to build something > yourself, and you mind less when the interesting experiment that shows > yo

Re: Virtual Dynamics Power 3 � 2000% Profit Margin

2008-03-27 Thread chill
tomjtx;284123 Wrote: > ..NO. I suspect this is simply an answer to the question about whether the $15 of components are worth more because of the investment in marketing, distribution etc. It is a semantic distinction, I know, but I would say they are not *worth* more, but *cos

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Where to get SC7 with firmware v83?

2008-03-27 Thread tomjtx
kmchow98;284195 Wrote: > Never tried 15. I have got no complains regarding version 81 that came > with 6.5.4. > The online community apparently like 83 alot. > > And I do feel that version 83 give a fairly soothing presentation that > is nice on the ears(mine). Version 81 is fine too with slight

Re: Virtual Dynamics Power 3 � 2000% Profit Margin

2008-03-27 Thread tomjtx
GuyDebord;284197 Wrote: > could you be so kind to elaborate? YES Sorry, couldn't resist...:-) -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.s

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can you hear the difference?

2008-03-27 Thread Robin Bowes
th00ht wrote: > Choral/orchestral works: only FLAC 24/96 is acceptable. Rubbish. R. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles

Re: Virtual Dynamics Power 3 � 2000% Profit Margin

2008-03-27 Thread GuyDebord
tomjtx;284123 Wrote: > ..NO. could you be so kind to elaborate? -- GuyDebord Reference3A RoyalMaster monitors biwired with v/d Hul Inspiration, REL Strata5. AMPS: Pathos Classic One MKIII's in mono config. ANALOGUE: Clearaudio Ambient CMB, Satisfy Carbon & Lyra Helikon SL, AS

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Jensen Speakers

2008-03-27 Thread honestguv
> That means I can't have deeper walls to accomodate deep cabinets What matters for a cabinet is that it has the designed volume to load the drive unit, contains absorption material and is rigid. So a wide and not particularly deep cabinet should be fine but it would almost certainly mean having

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Where to get SC7 with firmware v83?

2008-03-27 Thread kmchow98
Phil Leigh;284147 Wrote: > so 83 is the new 15? (oh God) Never tried 15. I have got no complains regarding version 81 that came with 6.5.4. The online community apparently like 83 alot. And I do feel that version 83 give a fairly soothing presentation that is nice on the ears(mine). Version 81

Re: Virtual Dynamics Power 3 � 2000% Profit Margin

2008-03-27 Thread zanash
I can't comment on the vd cable having not heard it .. What I can say is that in a system composed of reasonable components [mine] you can hear the effect power cables make .as a standard I use lapp classic three core cable this works out about £6/m without termination in a resent

Re: Virtual Dynamics Power 3 � 2000% Profit Margin

2008-03-27 Thread chill
I agree with Bigfool about the calculation of profit (or mark up), but I suspect the profit margin is even closer to 100%. That $15 estimate for parts is generous, even if we are talking about over the counter retail prices. If we were to consider trade prices for bulk purchases, I suspect the p