Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2009-05-07 Thread Phil Leigh
duke43j;421389 Wrote: I don't have a transporter, but I can bring the wine and snacks if you can show me the difference between the SB3 analog out vs. an external DAC. I've been thinking about springing for an external DAC for quite a while, but I am not sure if there will be $1K worth of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SeeDeClip/TxtDeClip

2009-05-07 Thread Phil Leigh
cliveb;421287 Wrote: Quite so - plenty of (unclipped) classical CDs have an album peak of 1. Peak=1 plus a high replaygain value is probably a warning sign as you say, but it's not quite so simple. There are plenty of modern pop/rock albums that are clipped to buggery but have a peak

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SeeDeClip/TxtDeClip

2009-05-07 Thread Phil Leigh
Been looking at my Replay gain distributions... 2.5k out of 30k tracks have a peak of 1.0 The most badly compressed album I have is Stop The Clocks by Oasis (hmmm...) -12.5dB of correction! If my maths is right (?) then this is a bit baffling since the max 16 bit dynamic range/snr is 98.08dB

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Out 24bit/48khz Physical Limitation?

2009-05-07 Thread sleepysurf
bhaagensen;419498 Wrote: Anyway, I'm sure ( in the I'm just guessing sense) the next (next) device from SD will support 24/96 if for nothing else than to keep up with the competition. I think the discussion on the audible merits of such formats will continue for a long time. But most

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2009-05-07 Thread timequest
duke43j;421389 Wrote: I don't have a transporter, but I can bring the wine and snacks if you can show me the difference between the SB3 analog out vs. an external DAC. I've been thinking about springing for an external DAC for quite a while, but I am not sure if there will be $1K worth of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2009-05-07 Thread kphinney
duke43j;421389 Wrote: I don't have a transporter, but I can bring the wine and snacks if you can show me the difference between the SB3 analog out vs. an external DAC. I've been thinking about springing for an external DAC for quite a while, but I am not sure if there will be $1K worth of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2009-05-07 Thread Phil Leigh
timequest;421433 Wrote: ... the slight gains in fidelity This is a slippery slope. Your fidelity is my euphonics. DAC's are like styli or speakers... a matter entirely of preference. Fidelity doesn't come into it. Each to their own! -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SeeDeClip/TxtDeClip

2009-05-07 Thread Phil Leigh
cliveb;421451 Wrote: It doesn't work quite like that. First of all, the Replaygain algorithm doesn't use peak levels. It determines the perceived loudness based on RMS levels and the ear's varying sensitivity at different frequencies (using the Fletcher-Munson curves, I believe).

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter woes

2009-05-07 Thread MadScientist
After taking delivery of a faulty Transporter (badly distorted analog output), I’m finding trying to get a replacement a highly frustrating experience. The retailer from whom I bought the unit, having no more stock themselves, decided that the fastest route would be to organise a straight

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Out 24bit/48khz Physical Limitation?

2009-05-07 Thread Phil Leigh
sleepysurf;421429 Wrote: Well said! Slim/Logitech needs to be working on the SB4, with 24/96 (ideally 24/192) streaming. That, paired with a Benchmark (or equivalent 24/192 DAC), would be the cats meow! If they don't stay competitive, Sooloos, Sonos, Linn, etc. will grab that market!

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SeeDeClip/TxtDeClip

2009-05-07 Thread tot
cliveb;421451 Wrote: Secondly, the 89dB reference level is derived from an SMPTE standard which states that pink noise at -20dB RMS should be played at 83dB SPL. (Replaygain started out using 83dB as its target loudness, but that's been adjusted up to 89dB for reasons that are not entirely

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter woes

2009-05-07 Thread JezA
Your retailer has got around £1000 from you, probably more. Your money worked fine. But your Transporter is useless. So get your money back immediately. If you bought it online, you are entitled to a refund under the distance selling regulations whether it is faulty or not; if you bought it from

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter woes

2009-05-07 Thread dennis55
Ripcaster UK seem to have these units in stock,it's where i purchased mine over a year ago. https://www.ripcaster.co.uk/ dennis -- dennis55 dennis55's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8884 View

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Out 24bit/48khz Physical Limitation?

2009-05-07 Thread sleepysurf
Phil Leigh;421481 Wrote: Well, they would if anyone gave a flying stuff about 24/192! - completely pointless. Even 24/96 is pointless for domestic replay. I've yet to meet anyone who can tell the difference between 24/96 and 24/48 downsampled properly... I agree that 24/192 might be

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter into amp or pre?

2009-05-07 Thread dekaliber
I've heard positive reports of plugging a Transporter straight into a power amp, bypassing a preamp entirely. Assuming you had a decent pre or an integrated amp, would it be advantageous to take advantage of that? Or would that extra step most likely degrade the signal? -- dekaliber

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Benchmark vs. CIAudio VDA-2

2009-05-07 Thread duke43j
Kphinney - I would love to get together, but Friday night is date night at our house (with my wife). Maybe we should make arrangements offline. My e-mail address is duke...@gmail.com. Phil - I absolutely agree. The analog stage is, in effect, a preamp running in a noisy environment. A poorly

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter into amp or pre?

2009-05-07 Thread Andy8421
I think as a general rule, the less 'stuff' you have between the source and the speakers, the better off you will be. I have a Krell setup, which uses balanced connections throughout. I tried using the transporter direct to the poweramp via balanced, and managed to convince myself that it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter woes

2009-05-07 Thread Andy8421
In that this is a new unit, the advice above about your rights as a purchaser under the sale of goods act or distance selling regulations are the best route to go. You have a right to a new unit or your cash back. Your post does however give me the opportunity to moan and groan once again about