Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-19 Thread earwaxer9
Daverz;619354 Wrote: > It was meant at a jab at Stereophile. They measure electronics and > speakers, but they don't measure cables. I like seeing the > measurements. > > But it strikes me as having a lack of curiosity to not want to know why > the wires might sound different. And -- present

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is Steve Guttenberg a genius?

2011-03-19 Thread Curt962
+1. Amen. -- Curt962 Transporter...TouchBoom.. Curt962's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31949 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=85906 ___

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-19 Thread Curt962
I was sitting in the airport reading that...and was just dying to see the capacitance measurements on the JPS cable.Guess they weren't able to do that. Curious, but I'll bet it would be brutal. -- Curt962 Transporter...TouchBoom.. --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Another trollicious question

2011-03-19 Thread earwaxer9
I think there is something to burn in. I have noticed it with switching out a new cap. It's not huge. I'm not sure about wire. I would tend to think that is bunk. With caps there is a "healing" process that occurs. There are micro perfs in the foil that need to burn in or heal themselves. These ho

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-19 Thread Daverz
earwaxer9;619348 Wrote: > who cares? It was meant at a jab at Stereophile. They measure electronics and speakers, but they don't measure cables. I like seeing the measurements. But it strikes me as having a lack of curiosity to not want to know why the wires might sound different. And -- pre

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Blacker blacks

2011-03-19 Thread earwaxer9
I just posted a response to the cable debate that addresses this issue. Black is the absence of a noisy background. Sounds simple. Its not easy. Everything from caps to cords come into play. Its the full picture. Signal to noise is the concept. How its implemented system wide is the result. Thats

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-19 Thread earwaxer9
who cares? - been there with the chase for THD specs. I'm sure JPS has them. Sound is what matters. If metrics are what matter no-one would listen to tubes. -- earwaxer9 System: modified Winsome Labs Mouse, modified Maggie MMG's, Transporter, HSU sub 12, MSB DAC to 500 watt sub slave amp, JPS

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-19 Thread Daverz
earwaxer9;619311 Wrote: > Stereophile April 2007 - JPS Labs Aluminata series. Do they link to JA's measurements? ;) -- Daverz Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: htt

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is Steve Guttenberg a genius?

2011-03-19 Thread garym
soulkeeper;619260 Wrote: > +1. I love music, and i love it when the music sounds good. I'm even > interested in technology (geek). > > Still, -i refuse to call myself an audiophile-. Why? Because i'm a > skeptic, not a gullible new-age airhead who couldn't care less about > reality. The term "a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is Transporter compatible with CAT6 cabling?

2011-03-19 Thread earwaxer9
bits;617578 Wrote: > Why do it? The ethernet port on your transporter is only capable of > 100mbit/sec, standard cat5 was capable of that over a 100m run. > > Would you replace the perfectly capable and fine power lead on your > kettle for $10? My cat7 cable is much more robust than the cat5e.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Raise your hand if you're convinced that speaker cables make no difference to sound q

2011-03-19 Thread earwaxer9
After reading many of the posts on this topic, I was moved to flip through the "archives" of my mind about some of the cable reviews that left an impression on me. Most cable "reviews" are vague and of questionable value due to the number of variables involved. I tend to not take them seriously. T

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] squeezebox setup for audiophiles

2011-03-19 Thread Henry66
After perusing this thread, I thought I would post a breakdown of what I have spent on my "audiophile" setup. These items are the money I have spent specifically to get good sound. Other costs, like my PC, network switches, remote control devices, etc. are not included because they are coincidenta

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] squeezebox setup for audiophiles

2011-03-19 Thread Phil Leigh
andynormancx;619225 Wrote: > There is no jitter involved in the networking between your NAS and the > player, zero. That article you linked to is complete nonsense. Yep - that article is complete cr@p... and has no relevance at all to this forum or topic. OP: Back to ethernet... there are suppo

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is Steve Guttenberg a genius?

2011-03-19 Thread Soulkeeper
Mnyb;614819 Wrote: > Perhaps the fact that a once respectable hoby has degenrated to an > obscure cult can explain a lot. +1. I love music, and I love it when the music sounds good. I'm even interested in technology (geek). Still, -I refuse to call myself an audiophile-. Why? Because I'm a ske

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] squeezebox setup for audiophiles

2011-03-19 Thread andynormancx
dhinesh;619224 Wrote: > > Now it seems that to keep the worms to a minimum you need to use 2 > routers. One at the NAS and one at the TOUCH and ensure the cables are > CAT 5 or CAT 6 and that they are short as long cables introduce JITTER. There is no jitter involved in the networking between y

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] squeezebox setup for audiophiles

2011-03-19 Thread dhinesh
darrenyeats;619207 Wrote: > Well, here's my opinion. > > What about wired LAN? This is what I don't get. It seems to me overkill > to worry about WLAN. But paradoxically, wired LAN introduces an > electrical connection between the computer server and the player and it > is precisely that which r

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] squeezebox setup for audiophiles

2011-03-19 Thread darrenyeats
dhinesh;618995 Wrote: > After researching a bit and reading up on the forum, I would like to set > up my squeezebox touch as follows and any input, criticism, guidance, > etc to help all of us get on the right path would help. I will post > back my experience so others can learn as well: > > Cur

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] squeezebox setup for audiophiles

2011-03-19 Thread garym
dhinesh;619175 Wrote: > are you using the transporter wired or wireless (WLAN). I want to stick > with WLAN as I prefer it, and am wondering if the transporter sounds > good using WLAN. There are two issues here that we are discussing: 1) > Mods on the touch (2) getting good sound using wlan. >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] squeezebox setup for audiophiles

2011-03-19 Thread callesoroe
dhinesh;619175 Wrote: > are you using the transporter wired or wireless (WLAN). I want to stick > with WLAN as I prefer it, and am wondering if the transporter sounds > good using WLAN. There are two issues here that we are discussing: 1) > Mods on the touch (2) getting good sound using wlan. >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] squeezebox setup for audiophiles

2011-03-19 Thread dhinesh
michael123;619164 Wrote: > Get the transporter, man. Your system deserves it. > Transporter has completely different digital section are you using the transporter wired or wireless (WLAN). I want to stick with WLAN as I prefer it, and am wondering if the transporter sounds good using WLAN. There

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] squeezebox setup for audiophiles

2011-03-19 Thread michael123
dhinesh;619107 Wrote: > 1) Check out: > http://soundcheck-audio.blogspot.com/p/squeezebox-touch-great-base-for-network.html > > Dac is very good. Was using a benchmark dac1 and changed it for the > audio research dac 8. It sounds great when the digital out from the CD > player is plugged into it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] squeezebox setup for audiophiles

2011-03-19 Thread michael123
jeza;619070 Wrote: > add up all the money you propose to spend on fancy power supplies, > cables, nas's and other voodoo. > > Spend it on a transporter. > > Job done, right. -- michael123 Please fix http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16814 --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] squeezebox setup for audiophiles

2011-03-19 Thread darrenyeats
magiccarpetride;619097 Wrote: > EVERYTHING pretty much vanishes under the double blind ABX test > circumstances. That's the fact that invalidates such a clever test. > > You can read up on it all over the web -- people. experienced > audiophiles, have reportedly never been able to pass ANY ABX t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] squeezebox setup for audiophiles

2011-03-19 Thread Muele
magiccarpetride;619097 Wrote: > EVERYTHING pretty much vanishes under the double blind ABX test > circumstances. That's the fact that invalidates such a clever test. > > You can read up on it all over the web -- people. experienced > audiophiles, have reportedly never been able to pass ANY ABX t