Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is touch a better sounding unit than SB3 ?

2011-04-05 Thread darrenyeats
magiccarpetride;623231 Wrote: A counter-counter anecdote is that an acquaintance of mine claims that he can't hear the difference between the Touch and his alarm clock. Sort of similar how I can't hear the difference between my refrigerator and the sound the furnace makes when it's pushing

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Better resampling for SB Classic and Touch (probably all)

2011-04-05 Thread Phil Leigh
The differences between SOX (VHQ) and Weiss are clearly measurable but inaudible in practice and there is NO consensus on which is even theroretically better. Weiss can handle DSD and that is why it is used in pro circles. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-05 Thread soundcheck
JohnSwenson;623284 Wrote: My theory is that with a large buffer you have lots of processing happening all at once at fairly infrequent intervals. With a small buffer you have much less processing but closer together, the processing is more spread out. John. Very interesting. Great to see

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Better resampling for SB Classic and Touch (probably all)

2011-04-05 Thread WAD62
Phil Leigh;622886 Wrote: I completely agree - all this talk of multiples is nonsense in the context of SOX... Thanks for that Phil Wombat, I'd previously made the same assumption as Gaz R.E. the multiples of... My SB setup is still redbook, as my main DAC is an Audiolab 8000DAX and won't go

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-05 Thread Phil Leigh
soundcheck;623349 Wrote: John. Very interesting. Great to see that you measured some kind of impact. Less processing for smaller buffers!?!? Hmmh. You got a lot more interrupts in the system to refill a smaller buffer. Theoretically the total amount of data you process should be the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-04-05 Thread johann
Still can´t get the menu options to work in the Touch (nor iPeng) but got it working with filters from Audiolense and the difference is quite large! :) Realized I had some nasty dips (-24dB!) around 80 Hz, so I will experiment a bit with speaker placement to even that out a bit. Not sure why I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-05 Thread soundcheck
Phil Leigh;623372 Wrote: That's a totally different concept - RME are talking about latency - the delay between an input stimulus (such as an incoming midi note-on event from a keyboard or other controller) and the generation of the desired corresponding sound from a software or hardware

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-05 Thread JezA
'Here' (http://www.stereophile.com/content/linn-majik-ds-i-da-integrated-amplifier-manufacturers-comment-2) are some measurements from right inside a Linn Majik DS-I network DAC showing the effects of the processor loading the powersupply every 5ms as an ethernet packet is received. So, such

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-05 Thread Phil Leigh
soundcheck;623388 Wrote: It is about midi. You figured it out . I knew you're a pretty bright fellow. Great. You missed bridging what's being said over to our discussion. It's about the principle how a buffer gets managed. And that this might not be as linear as some people might think it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-05 Thread adamdea
JezA;623391 Wrote: 'Here' (http://www.stereophile.com/content/linn-majik-ds-i-da-integrated-amplifier-manufacturers-comment-2) are some measurements from right inside a Linn Majik DS-I network DAC showing the effects of the processor loading the powersupply every 5ms as an ethernet packet

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-04-05 Thread adamdea
johann;623377 Wrote: Still can´t get the menu options to work in the Touch (nor iPeng) but got it working with filters from Audiolense and the difference is quite large! :) Realized I had some nasty dips (-24dB!) around 80 Hz, so I will experiment a bit with speaker placement to even that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-05 Thread JezA
adamdea - I think the Linn measurements are in response to Stereophile's measurements, so it's probably worth reading those as well to get the context. -- JezA JezA's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Rega DAC - Has anyone auditioned one yet?

2011-04-05 Thread whoosh
My Rega DAC is scheduled to arrive tomorrow. I've come down with a bad allergy attack yesterday, so my sinuses are all plugged and my ears are definitely not in condition to do any critical listening. So, I'll have no choice but to wait until the unit has had some burn-in time before giving it a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-04-05 Thread johann
adamdea;623427 Wrote: Sorry to hear you don't get it to work in Inguz. It didn;t work for me at first but then suddenly did. Do you get EQ in extras, or does Inguz not appear at all? I can only access Inguz from the SBS web interface (e,g, not server settings but the left frame in

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-04-05 Thread adamdea
Is inguzdsp.exe definitely running? I remember havibng Inguz appearig in the web browser but not in Ipeng at one point. I had not installed the second part of Inguz ie th actual engine. I am sure you are much more competent than i am though so I sure you wouldn't have done that. If you ask Phil

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-04-05 Thread Phil Leigh
adamdea;623436 Wrote: Is inguzdsp.exe definitely running? I remember havibng Inguz appearig in the web browser but not in Ipeng at one point. I had not installed the second part of Inguz ie th actual engine. I am sure you are much more competent than i am though so I sure you wouldn't have

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-04-05 Thread johann
adamdea;623436 Wrote: Is inguzdsp.exe definitely running? I remember havibng Inguz appearig in the web browser but not in Ipeng at one point. I had not installed the second part of Inguz ie th actual engine. I am sure you are much more competent than i am though so I sure you wouldn't have

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-04-05 Thread adamdea
What ever became of the folks who wrote the inguz plugin? I wonder if they could be persuaded to come out of retirement? -- adamdea adamdea's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37603 View this

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-04-05 Thread johann
Phil Leigh;623438 Wrote: I cannot get the sweep/measurement menus to appear on the Touch. They appear fine on my Boom (not very helpful!). This appears to be a Squeezeplay issue - the plugin simply isn't compatible and needs to be re-written to work fully on SP devices like the Touch.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-04-05 Thread krzys
Hi guys I have good and bad news. The good one is that on my Touch all the menus are working, filter selection, test tones, EQ name it; everything is accessible from the screen and the remote. The bad one is I don't know why mine is working ;-(( The only thing I can make to help you is to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-04-05 Thread johann
krzys;623450 Wrote: Hi guys I have good and bad news. The good one is that on my Touch all the menus are working, filter selection, test tones, EQ name it; everything is accessible from the screen and the remote. The bad one is I don't know why mine is working ;-(( The only thing I can

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Rega DAC - Has anyone auditioned one yet?

2011-04-05 Thread rgro
I tried my best last night to discern differernces between the various filter settings. Using 24/96 tracks, the only differnces that I can even possibly claim to have heard was that filter #4 (linear phase apodising) was a bit over-boomy in the bass. Listening to classical music, #5 (minimum

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-04-05 Thread Phil Leigh
krzys;623450 Wrote: Hi guys I have good and bad news. The good one is that on my Touch all the menus are working, filter selection, test tones, EQ name it; everything is accessible from the screen and the remote. The bad one is I don't know why mine is working ;-(( The only thing I can

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-04-05 Thread krzys
I'm conservative I'm running 7.5.3, on XP . The Inguz menus appear as EQ in the Touch Extras menu ans on SBS. -- krzys krzys's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2256 View this thread:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Filters

2011-04-05 Thread rgro
I'm struggling to figure out this whole digital filtering business...linear, minimum, apodizing, soft knee, etc...I've read some of the technical explanations and discussions, but quite honestly 98% of it goes right over my head. This is more intellectual curiousity than anything else as I have

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is touch a better sounding unit than SB3 ?

2011-04-05 Thread magiccarpetride
ralphpnj;623275 Wrote: Whatever drug you're on, I want some - please! Wait what am I saying! This is the Audiophiles section so I guess that rumor, hearsay, magic and general BS are all fair game. Kind of like the climate change deniers - science just gets tossed out the window and one

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is touch a better sounding unit than SB3 ?

2011-04-05 Thread magiccarpetride
ralphpnj;623275 Wrote: Whatever drug you're on, I want some - please! Wait what am I saying! This is the Audiophiles section so I guess that rumor, hearsay, magic and general BS are all fair game. Kind of like the climate change deniers - science just gets tossed out the window and one

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is touch a better sounding unit than SB3 ?

2011-04-05 Thread Gazjam
magiccarpetride;623495 Wrote: It was a belated April Fool's joke! Lighten up, people;) MOST of us knew that Alex... :) -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is touch a better sounding unit than SB3 ?

2011-04-05 Thread Robin Bowes
On 05/04/11 18:28, magiccarpetride wrote: It was a belated April Fool's joke! Lighten up, people;) Ah... a joke... Funny, it sounded just like the rest of the drivel you post. Is that all a joke too? R. -- Feed that ego and you starve the soul - Colonel J.D. Wilkes

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Filters

2011-04-05 Thread Wombat
You ask to much to explain. The pro peole will grub out all kinds of audiophile vovabulary to describe all types of filters. Most likely the same vocabulary will be valid for parts of other filters. From a technical view there of cause can be audible differences because some filters simply affect

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is touch a better sounding unit than SB3 ?

2011-04-05 Thread ralphpnj
magiccarpetride;623495 Wrote: It was a belated April Fool's joke! Lighten up, people;) Since you're not the op I can only assume that a) you are completely full of sh*t (but I already know that :)) b) that you and the op are in cohoots, to which I say boy are we in trouble.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is touch a better sounding unit than SB3 ?

2011-04-05 Thread magiccarpetride
Robin Bowes;623502 Wrote: On 05/04/11 18:28, magiccarpetride wrote: It was a belated April Fool's joke! Lighten up, people;) Ah... a joke... Funny, it sounded just like the rest of the drivel you post. Is that all a joke too? R. -- Feed that ego and you starve the soul -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-04-05 Thread johann
krzys;623473 Wrote: I'm conservative I'm running 7.5.3, on XP . The Inguz menus appear as EQ in the Touch Extras menu ans on SBS. Would you mind uploading your Plugin.pm, please? -- johann johann's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is touch a better sounding unit than SB3 ?

2011-04-05 Thread ralphpnj
magiccarpetride;623509 Wrote: Thank you for your kind compliment. No problem! On a slightly different note, which drugs make: a) The Transporter sound best? b) The Touch sound best? c) The SB3 sound best? My answers: Transporter - drugs which provide one with a heightened awareness and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-04-05 Thread krzys
johann;623511 Wrote: Would you mind uploading your Plugin.pm, please? Yes of course in the evening estern american time = late in Europe -- krzys krzys's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2256

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is touch a better sounding unit than SB3 ?

2011-04-05 Thread magiccarpetride
ralphpnj;623513 Wrote: No problem! On a slightly different note, which drugs make: a) The Transporter sound best? b) The Touch sound best? c) The SB3 sound best? My answers: Transporter - drugs which provide one with a heightened awareness and sharper focus. Touch - drugs

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is touch a better sounding unit than SB3 ?

2011-04-05 Thread ralphpnj
magiccarpetride;623518 Wrote: Thanks for the insight. Also, don't forget to take your meds every morning. Why limit oneself to just the morning? -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter - Transporter 2 (oops) - Touch 'Last.fm'

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-04-05 Thread johann
Thanks, hopefully I don´t need it since I think I found the problem. I was using a Plugin.pm posted in this thread and found that I had errors in the server logfile pointing to line 391. In the file I was using, I had my @rootdirs = Slim::Utils::PluginManager::pluginRootDirs(); This caused an

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is touch a better sounding unit than SB3 ?

2011-04-05 Thread magiccarpetride
ralphpnj;623534 Wrote: Why limit oneself to just the morning? That's the question you should ask your psychiatrist. -- magiccarpetride magiccarpetride's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37863

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Is touch a better sounding unit than SB3 ?

2011-04-05 Thread ralphpnj
magiccarpetride;623547 Wrote: That's the question you should ask your psychiatrist. Psychiatrist?!?!? Don't you mean dealer? -- ralphpnj Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter - Transporter 2 (oops) - Touch 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] RC (Inguz etc.)

2011-04-05 Thread krzys
working fine with XP SP3. If that can help someone Chris +---+ |Filename: Plugin.zip | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=11651|

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-05 Thread RadioClash
This thread gives me a headache... -- RadioClash RadioClash's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2839 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=84742

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter discontiuned?

2011-04-05 Thread earwaxer9
My Transporter sits on the floor. If it was on a rack I might use the nob. -- earwaxer9 System: modified Winsome Labs Mouse, modified Maggie MMG's, Transporter, HSU sub 12, MSB DAC to 500 watt sub slave amp, JPS labs power cords, Silver audio interconnect, Audioquest Granite speaker cable.