Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-10 Thread Deaf Cat
evdplancke;682902 Wrote: An assumption could be that this rebuffering would cause a noise with specific frequency characteristics, around 250 Hz for 4k and 50 Hz for 20k buffer. Depending from the frequency characteristics of each system, this noise could generate more or less interferences

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-10 Thread evdplancke
Turnandcough;682907 Wrote: I know we're straying off topic but one last thing. Does coax cable length really matter? Some people say you need a minimum of 1.5m to avoid reflections. If so - why do so many so called high end cable manufacturers sell 1m cables? You'd think they would

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-10 Thread NoRoDa
Regarding length on digital cables S/PDIF Bryston newsletters: http://www.bryston.com/newsletters/52_files/vol5is2.html What about DIGITAL AUDIO CABLES? [...] This requires that sufficient numbers of related harmonics associated with the fundamental are transmitted distortion free to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Vintage or modern?

2012-01-10 Thread adamdea
Interesting list TR. Not sure I'm following you though- Troutmask replica and Pet Sounds seem to me to be stretching the definition of Modern. -- adamdea adamdea's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help with wired setup please

2012-01-10 Thread Ambrose
Thanks Munroe. Will look into bridge / switches. Any UK recommendations (without being too expensive) for Bridge / switch please that users have / like? Not bothered about being a repeater if this is not necessary to get best sound. I have a Dac Magic 1 but am using analogue out as finding

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advice please - upgrade priority

2012-01-10 Thread Ambrose
Hi, To set the background, I have following setup. SBT - Analogue Out (Chord Crimson) - Naim Nait 5i-2 - Neat Motive 3. I have applied all Soundcheck Toolbox 3.0 and using WLAN mode but looking at a bridge/switch setup shortly. I am using Logitech default priorites and buffer 2 which seems to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio Myths!

2012-01-10 Thread Ron Olsen
This is an important video to understand how human hearing works. We hear with our brain, not with our ears. Important takeaways: Hearing can be steered. Expectation bias influences perception. -- Ron Olsen Ron Olsen's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advice please - upgrade priority

2012-01-10 Thread Jeff Flowerday
Definitely get that wireless radio turned off in the Touch. Next I would say, audition some DACs at home if you can. -- Jeff Flowerday Jeff Flowerday's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15883 View

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio Myths!

2012-01-10 Thread audiomuze
Ron Olsen;682975 Wrote: This is an important video to understand how human hearing works. We hear with our brain, not with our ears. Important takeaways: Hearing can be steered. Expectation bias influences perception.and as a result you get this:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Vintage or modern?

2012-01-10 Thread Jeff Flowerday
A few somewhat modern recordings that I really enjoy: Larry Carlton - Sapphire Blue Brent Mason - Hot Wired DMB - first 3 albums -- Jeff Flowerday Jeff Flowerday's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advice please - upgrade priority

2012-01-10 Thread Ron Olsen
A matching subwoofer to extend audio response down to 30 Hz will give more listening pleasure than any of those other changes. -- Ron Olsen Ron Olsen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9233 View

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What's happened to Phil Leigh?

2012-01-10 Thread cliveb
I just struck me that I haven't seen any postings from Phil for a while, so I did a quick search and found his last post was on 23rd Nov. I always enjoy his non-nonsense contributions. Are you still around, Phil? Are you OK? Has the audiofool lunatic fringe that seems to be dominating this forum

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What's happened to Phil Leigh?

2012-01-10 Thread Jeff Flowerday
cliveb;682982 Wrote: I just struck me that I haven't seen any postings from Phil for a while, so I did a quick search and found his last post was on 23rd Nov. I always enjoy his non-nonsense contributions. Are you still around, Phil? Are you OK? Has the audiofool lunatic fringe that seems

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What Amp and Speakers Are You Using?

2012-01-10 Thread audiomuze
cliveb;90935 Wrote: Well, now I'm confused. On this forum, and in the pinkfishmedia thread Andrew has referenced, the Behringer gets the thumbs-up. Meanwhile the pros over at rec.audio.pro, who I trust to know what they're talking about, have soundly poo-poo'd the idea that it's possible to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What's happened to Phil Leigh?

2012-01-10 Thread audiomuze
-- audiomuze *'Linux finally gets a great audio tagger' (http://www.ubuntugeek.com/linux-finally-gets-a-great-audio-tagger.html): 'puddletag' (http://puddletag.sourceforge.net/)* audiomuze's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What's happened to Phil Leigh?

2012-01-10 Thread adamdea
audiomuze;682988 -- adamdea adamdea's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37603 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=92925 ___

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio Myths!

2012-01-10 Thread cliveb
Ron Olsen;682975 Wrote: This is an important video to understand how human hearing works. We hear with our brain, not with our ears. Important takeaways: Hearing can be steered. Expectation bias influences perception. I first saw this a year or so ago, when the Hydrogen Audio forum picked

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio Myths!

2012-01-10 Thread RGibran
audiomuze;682977 Wrote: and as a result you get this: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 and if your convinced everything sounds the same, you will steer yourself that way :-) RG -- RGibran

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What's happened to Phil Leigh?

2012-01-10 Thread JJZolx
cliveb;682982 Wrote: the audiofool lunatic fringe Those are easily ignored, IMO. I never quite understood the reason for posts that do nothing more than tell somebody that they don't, won't, or can't hear something. -- JJZolx

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advice please - upgrade priority

2012-01-10 Thread TheOctavist
none of that stuff. acoustically treat the room. that will make a bigger difference than ANY component. Including speakers. I promise. -- TheOctavist VortexboxSBT(TT 3.0)Forssell MDAC-2Klein and Hummell 0300D Sota Sapphire/Lyra KleosBespoke Valve Phono StageMastersound Due VentiLink Audio

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What's happened to Phil Leigh?

2012-01-10 Thread Wombat
JJZolx;683001 Wrote: Those are easily ignored, IMO. I never quite understood the reason for posts that do nothing more than tell someone that they don't, won't, or can't hear something. Since you almost never post or argue in this section here it is no wonder you can easily ignore them. --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What's happened to Phil Leigh?

2012-01-10 Thread audiomuze
It'd be great if all the Touch mod threads and questions could be moved to the Touch or DIY forums. Why they were started here is beyond me. -- audiomuze *'Linux finally gets a great audio tagger' (http://www.ubuntugeek.com/linux-finally-gets-a-great-audio-tagger.html): 'puddletag'

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What's happened to Phil Leigh?

2012-01-10 Thread Phil Leigh
Thanks for your kind concerns... I'm OK, I've been a bit busy recently but I hope to rejoin you all soon. Kind regards Phil PS The Pink Floyd remasters I got for Xmas are very nice :-) -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What's happened to Phil Leigh?

2012-01-10 Thread aubuti
audiomuze;683014 Wrote: It'd be great if all the Touch mod threads and questions could be moved to the Touch or DIY forums. Why they were started here is beyond me. That's funny, because the first soundcheck's mods thread originally started in the Touch or General forum, and Klaus (aka

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What's happened to Phil Leigh?

2012-01-10 Thread JJZolx
Wombat;683009 Wrote: Since you almost never post or argue in this section here it is no wonder you can easily ignore them. Or maybe I don't post here -because- I ignore them. There isn't much else in this forum. -- JJZolx

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advice please - upgrade priority

2012-01-10 Thread SuperQ
Yea, I agree with the other posts. None of those things are going to make a big difference. Those speakers are small, and specs don't give you +- dB for the frequency range. * Subwoofer or floorstanders are a good idea. * Room acoustic treatment is going to also make a huge difference.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Vintage or modern?

2012-01-10 Thread magiccarpetride
mlsstl;682898 Wrote: I feel like a broken record on this subject, but the sound of recordings has far more to do with the intentional choices made by the producer, recording engineer and artists than the age or choice of equipment. Just like hemlines, colors, furniture styles, food

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What's happened to Phil Leigh?

2012-01-10 Thread guidof
Phil Leigh;683016 Wrote: Thanks for your kind concerns... I'm OK, I've been a bit busy recently but I hope to rejoin you all soon. Kind regards Phil PS The Pink Floyd remasters I got for Xmas are very nice :-) Glad to hear you're well and enjoying the music! Guido F. -- guidof MUSIC

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Help with wired setup please

2012-01-10 Thread guidof
Ambrose;682967 Wrote: Thanks Munroe. Will look into bridge / switches. Any UK recommendations (without being too expensive) for Bridge / switch please that users have / like? Not bothered about being a repeater if this is not necessary to get best sound. I have a Dac Magic 1 but am

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Vintage or modern?

2012-01-10 Thread magiccarpetride
adamdea;682965 Wrote: Interesting list TR. Not sure I'm following you though- Troutmask replica and Pet Sounds seem to me to be stretching the definition of Modern. And Sam Cooke died in 1964 Yeah, let me clarify my definition of 'modern': anything produced in the past 12 years (or, 15

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advice please - upgrade priority

2012-01-10 Thread guidof
Ron Olsen;682979 Wrote: A matching subwoofer to extend audio response down to 30 Hz will give more listening pleasure than any of those other changes. I tend to agree with Ron's take on this. However, matching (integrating) a sub is not without its challenges. Room mode taming, an important

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio Myths!

2012-01-10 Thread guidof
Ron Olsen;682975 Wrote: This is an important video to understand how human hearing works. We hear with our brain, not with our ears. Important takeaways: Hearing can be steered. Expectation bias influences perception. We also see with our brain, but I would not try driving the Washington

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advice please - upgrade priority

2012-01-10 Thread SBGK
following Soundcheck's advice would start with a linear power supply or battery equivalent, that might be enough, see what that sounds like. without this, spending money downstream is not going to be as effective. if you have money left over buy a dac. or learn to accept what you have and buy

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What's happened to Phil Leigh?

2012-01-10 Thread darrenyeats
Phil, glad to see you're about and indeed alive! On the general topic, audio has been a journey for me so far. I used to be a raving subjectivist but now I not. Every time I listen, or see other people listening, without knowing which player (or even speaker!) they're listening to, I become a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advice please - upgrade priority

2012-01-10 Thread darrenyeats
Spend a bit of time researching your favourite music to see if there are alternative masters. SACDs are sometimes mastered better (the risk is hybrids where the CD layer has just a standard master). Also MOFI releases can sound good. Darren -- darrenyeats

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advice please - upgrade priority

2012-01-10 Thread praganj
TheOctavist;683007 Wrote: none of that stuff. acoustically treat the room. that will make a bigger difference than ANY component. Including speakers. I promise. Oh, yes do some acoustic treatement. Try basotect, this is very good. -- praganj

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio Myths!

2012-01-10 Thread magiccarpetride
guidof;683034 Wrote: Some (most?) of the tweaks discussed in this forum may produce only the illusion of improvement, but some may not. The bottom line question is: who's to say? You? Klaus? Phil? -- magiccarpetride

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-10 Thread SBGK
process priority and core affinity win 7 having a play with process lasso (it is free) and think there are some benefits to be gained if you have a multicore win 7 machine. am trying squeezeserver at real time priority and affinity core 1, windows network procceses at high and core 2 and intel

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Souncheck Toolbox 3.0 Squeezeplug

2012-01-10 Thread tank121
Anyone using this combination in particular using a dockstar? Do the mods run Ok? -- tank121 Squeezebox touch Squeezeplug running on Dockstar Audiolab MDAC Arcam A85 amp Chord rumour speaker cable Dali Mentor Menuets on Custom Design stands Room 2 Boom Bedroom RADIO

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio Myths!

2012-01-10 Thread TheOctavist
i personally want to be the best listener i can, and that means scientific listening...once your brain ear system learns how to..lidten right and rule out bs(cables etc), one is better off and richer. or be happily ignorant and buy foo... -- TheOctavist VortexboxSBT(TT 3.0)Forssell

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-10 Thread HumanMedia
All this coax talk has given me BNC envy. Envious no more: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=683086postcount=10 -- HumanMedia HumanMedia's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=44865 View

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-10 Thread Audio Bling
NoRoDa;682950 Wrote: Regarding length on digital cables S/PDIF Bryston newsletters: [..] Me? 6 feet BJC and 3 feet BJC. Using the 6 feet of course ;) Nice post. Well set out easy to read. Could be a model for others (at least in form).. The question is: Should we believe

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-10 Thread magiccarpetride
Audio Bling;683088 Wrote: Nice post. Well set out easy to read. Could be a model for others (at least in form).. The question is: Should we believe Bryston Steve Nugent? It is nice to talk about “rise time”; “fundamentals” and “reflections”. However, can you or I verify the theory let

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-10 Thread Audio Bling
magiccarpetride;683091 Wrote: Easy. Get a short and a long digital coax cable. Try them both. You could either: [..] What question did I pose that you think you are answering here? I was responding to the assertion that longer is always better by saying there is reason to be sceptical of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advice please - upgrade priority

2012-01-10 Thread TheOctavist
SBGK;683035 Wrote: following Soundcheck's advice would start with a linear power supply or battery equivalent, that might be enough, see what that sounds like. without this, spending money downstream is not going to be as effective. if you have money left over buy a dac. or learn to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-10 Thread Turnandcough
magiccarpetride;683091 Wrote: Easy. Get a short and a long digital coax cable. Try them both. I happen to have a 1m terminated cable and a 1ft length of unterminated cable which I'm about to use to hardwire my Touch to my DAC. I guess comparing the two wouldn't solve the 1m vs 1.5m debate.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-10 Thread RGibran
Audio Bling;683094 Wrote: I was responding to the assertion that longer is always better by saying there is reason to be sceptical of such a claim. Do you disagree? All my ex's and wife would disagree. YLMV :-) RG -- RGibran

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-10 Thread Turnandcough
For some reason I can't get into Putty or WinSCP using Touch's IP address. The only thing I did that I can think of was installing TCP and installing then uninstalling Fidelizer when I read it was not compatible with XP. Tried rebooting computer and restarting Touch, loading TCP FirstBackup.spg

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-10 Thread Turnandcough
OK figured it out. IP address had somehow changed -- Turnandcough Turnandcough's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9436 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-10 Thread guidof
RGibran;683100 Wrote: All my ex's and wife would disagree. YLMV :-) RG Very good! Guido F. -- guidof MUSIC ROOM: Marantz TT 15S1 Turntable, Virtuoso Wood Cartridge-Conrad Johnson Motif preamp Oppo BDP-83 Universal Player-Cambridge Azur 840C DAC Vortexbox Appliance-WiFi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Advice please - upgrade priority

2012-01-10 Thread audiomuze
You cannot achieve the same results with digital room correction as you can applying acoustic treatments to a room. DRC may address a particular issue at a location in the room whilst introducing others and cannot eliminate cancellations, whereas appropriate acoustic treatments can. --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-10 Thread jmschnur
NoRoDa;682950 Wrote: Regarding length on digital cables S/PDIF Bryston newsletters: See also:'PFO Audio Discourse: Why longer is generally better for an S/PDIF Digital Cable' (http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue14/spdif.htm) av Steve Nugent ('Empirical Audio'

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Ode to room acoustics

2012-01-10 Thread ob_kook
From 2002 to 2010 I had an apartment in Tokyo because I spent so much time doing business there. It was there that I bought my Dynaudio's and hauled over a vintage, but not superb, Luxman integrated amp to drive them. The source was faily low bitrate MP3's from the soundcard of a PC. (at least

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-10 Thread NoRoDa
Audio Bling;683088 Wrote: Nice post. Well set out easy to read. Could be a model for others (at least in form).. Bottom line: The jury is still out on this matter and there is reason to be sceptical - not withstanding your excellent post which seems, however, a little too one-sided for

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 3.0

2012-01-10 Thread NoRoDa
jmschnur;683107 Wrote: So what about a 0.3 meter cable? Either very short or at least 1,5 meters is the saying. If 0.3 m = very short? Don't know. :) -- NoRoDa NoRoDa's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio Myths!

2012-01-10 Thread SBGK
audiomuze;682977 Wrote: and as a result you get this: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91322 and some people want to influence others by decrying the efforts of others without any positive contribution of their own, is that a power trip thing ? it's not an audio thing because

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio Myths!

2012-01-10 Thread audiomuze
I can't help but wonder how many of you implementing all these improvements have the hi-fi equipment and properly configured listening space to actually be able to resolve and discern the purported differences. -- audiomuze *'Linux finally gets a great audio tagger'

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audio Myths!

2012-01-10 Thread SBGK
audiomuze;683127 Wrote: I can't help but wonder how many of you implementing all these improvements have the hi-fi equipment and properly configured listening space to actually be able to resolve and discern the purported differences. I have the best kit and listening space in the world as