http://www.zmix.net/Converter_Test/index.htm
nope. no difference.
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the Yamaha HS80m are very, very nice.
never been a fan of genelec(too toppy /bright for me)
I use the HS80m actives in my living room. I love them. dont give up
much to my klein and hummel 0300D at all.
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Sota
Ok, that must be why my portable radio sounds identical to my main hifi
then!!!
Personally I tend to go with what my ears tell me but it is based on an
intermediate level of electronics knowledge. I don't use spice modelling
and I've never chosen anything based on quoted distortion levels. What
Just a thought, is there anything that prevents a small DC offset from
being set in software? (Except for the loss of a bit or three in
resolution?)
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If you are going to perform surgery on the Touch you are much better off
getting rid of or bypassing the output caps all together. The DAC chip
already has a circuit which provides a signal that has no DC bias,
there is no need for a cap on the output. I really have no idea why
there is one in
Nice.
The description of the methodology isn't perfect, but I see no
particular reason to doubt the result.
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I'm not even sure what you're asking?
What data rate are you talking about? What's the percentage you're
quoting?
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Are these network tests of two different SB server versions being run on
the same computer?
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IIRC the network Netest pluigin which implements the test was rewritten
in 7.6. Not sure if the changes only applied to Squeezeplay.
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I noticed that flac files after RC filtering are smaller than before.
How do you explain that? Does it mean that there is a loss in
resolution? My guess: it is probably due to bass and treble rolloff in
the target curve.
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evdplancke;693210 Wrote:
I noticed that flac files after RC filtering are smaller than before.
How do you explain that? Does it mean that there is a loss in
resolution? My guess: it is probably due to bass and treble rolloff in
the target curve.
Not sure what you mean... what files? - INGUZ
item_audio;692989 Wrote:
Some crucial points there: I would add that taking speakers into someone
else's room is a no-no: it pays to think of your speakers and room as
two components of the same cabinet (which it is!) There's no substitute
for listening to equipment in your own room and
probedb;693197 Wrote:
I'm not even sure what you're asking?
What data rate are you talking about? What's the percentage you're
quoting?
I'm talking about the function in the menu using the handset network
Test
I'm using the same computer everything, to the transporter wirelessly,
the only
hi guys,
I m a big fan of the toolbox. So tried to uprgrade to 3.0.
did the factory reset and went to work with soundchecks site.
only to find out that the toolbox does not unpack.
thisis what i get in putty
# ls
touchtoolbox3.0-LAN.tar
# tar xvf to*
/usr/bin/tt
#
now I have a bog
Still confusing, how are you running the network when you get 3000Kps?
A lot of factors are in play here. Where is the LMS server located
from the Transporter? How far is your wireless router from the
Transporter and Server?
A network test as I understand it, is the systems ability to stream
Currently feeding my PT Ordinal (with 24 bit Filter module) with both
16/44 (from CD Transport SB3) and 24/48 (from SB3) - however does
anyone use this DAC with a SBT or Transporter with a 24/96 stream?
Does it work?
If not then the upgrade to 24/96 ( beyond) needs a new DAC as well as
a SBT.
The last years we had some real progress in the lytics materials. A
Panasonic FC or FM, Rubycon Z and several others have extremely low
inner resistance, ESR and very high SRF these days. So if any
meaurements hint to high distortion i´d like to see some measurements
done with these new
item_audio;693113 Wrote:
By way of getting at the core issues - because some of you guys have
evidently thrown out the baby with the bath-water here - if your SB is
connected via optical SPDIF to a DAC, do you believe it is possible for
an upgraded power supply to make any difference?
No
I'd also make sure that only one instance of SB server is running for
each test. Verify through system processes that you don't have
multiple SB services running.
I'd also disable the UPnP/DLNA portion of LMS for a more accurate
test/comparison, if that might be causing an issue.
What are you
ralphpnj;693169 Wrote:
Here in the USA that unreliable of information is known as Fox News.
Sorry but I just couldn't resist. Now back the normal audio discussion.
All the network news shows have their shortcomings. Who can forget NBC
and their infamous expose on how the gas tanks in GM
mlsstl;693254 Wrote:
All the network news shows have their shortcomings. Who can forget NBC
and their infamous expose on how the gas tanks in GM pickups were
likely to explode and it turned out NBC had used explosives in the gas
tank to make sure they had good video. Or CBS's forged
item_audio;693249 Wrote:
No takers?
Perhaps if you just spelled out what you are talking about instead of
being cryptic... Which is neither big or clever
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
mlsstl;693254 Wrote:
However, this thread on audio is contentious enough without expanding
the subject.
Agreed, which is why I did apologize for my brief lapse.
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Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter -
Transporter 2 (oops) - Touch
'Last.fm'
Where is MCR when you need him?
Both sides of the debate need to be taken to task.
On the digital side, those who claim converting lossless formats,
copying files, transfer over a computer network and so on, cause
differences are misinformed. The way digital computers and networks
work is
zoldar;693233 Wrote:
hi guys,
I m a big fan of the toolbox. So tried to uprgrade to 3.0.
did the factory reset and went to work with soundchecks site.
only to find out that the toolbox does not unpack.
thisis what i get in putty
# ls
touchtoolbox3.0-LAN.tar
# tar xvf to*
darrenyeats;693273 Wrote:
Where is MCR when you need him?
Aren't MCR (magiccarpetride for those who may not have figured that
out) and item_audio one and the same or, at the very least, brothers?
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Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter -
Transporter 2
I make no such claim - but if so, they are at least different personas!
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using Tapatalk
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/richpub/listmania/byauthor/A3H57URKQB8AQO/ref=cm_pdp_content_listmania/203-7606506-5721503.
SB Touch
darrenyeats;693277 Wrote:
I make no such claim - but if so, they are at least different personas!
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using Tapatalk
agree. item_audio has not used the term greasy or juicy or referred to
his woman
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garym;693278 Wrote:
agree. item_audio has not used the term greasy or juicy or referred to
his woman
Chortle...
I must dig out my Shaft soundtrack (great album)
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
Phil Leigh;693285 Wrote:
Chortle...
I must dig out my Shaft soundtrack (great album)
I think Shaft is quite appropriate since manufacturers use FUD to
basically give us the shaft.
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Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter -
Transporter 2 (oops) - Touch
thanx for your advice.
tried it:
/root$ tar xvf to*
/usr/bin/tt
/root$ tar xvf to*
/usr/bin/tt
/root$ ls
touchtoolbox3.0-LAN.tar
/root$ tar xvf touchtoolbox3.0-LAN.tar
/usr/bin/tt
what am i doing wrong? tried it on another laptop too. same deal.
no here is something that really bakes my
For those of you that use an iGadget to control your SBT, do you use the
ssh app that Klaus recommends? Is it hard to use? I only want to do very
simple things, like turn the display on/off say, or tt -s to see how
things are. Does it work sort of like the command window in WinSCP
(what I use
zoldar;693289 Wrote:
...
what am i doing wrong? tried it on another laptop too. same deal.
no here is something that really bakes my noodle
dowmloaded the old version and could unpack it, no problems. after
initialising I get this.
/root$ tt -s
[H[J
Touch Belden based coax into Audiolabs m-dac
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Squeezebox touch
Squeezeplug running on Dockstar
Audiolab MDAC
Arcam A85 amp
Chord rumour speaker cable
Dali Mentor Menuets on Custom Design stands
Room 2
Boom
Bedroom
RADIO
cfraser;693295 Wrote:
I recall similar from the last time I re-installed 3.0
You *must* reset the SBT. Klaus wasn't kidding. That cleaned up all the
garbage. Best to do a factory reset, get the latest FW if necessary,
then re-install 3.0...it will go very cleanly then.
hi
did a foctory
zoldar;693299 Wrote:
hi
did a foctory reset twice and a firmware upgrade too. no such luck.
Two thoughts:
- are you at the top level directory? looks like you are at root user
level - you need to be at /
- might there be some permission problems?
I've never had a problem provided I've
Phil Leigh;693259 Wrote:
Perhaps if you just spelled out what you are talking about instead of
being cryptic... Which is neither big or clever
What do you find cryptic about this question, now on its third time of
asking:
If your SB is connected via optical SPDIF to a DAC, do you
item_audio;693311 Wrote:
What do you find cryptic about this question, now on its third time of
asking:
If your SB is connected via optical SPDIF to a DAC, do you believe it
is possible for an upgraded power supply to make any difference?
the question is straightforward, but there is a
Wombat;693244 Wrote:
The last years we had some real progress in the lytics materials. A
Panasonic FC or FM, Rubycon Z and several others have extremely low
inner resistance, ESR and very high SRF these days. So if any
meaurements hint to high distortion i´d like to see some measurements
item_audio;693311 Wrote:
What do you find cryptic about this question, now on its third time of
asking:
If your SB is connected via optical SPDIF to a DAC, do you believe it
is possible for an upgraded power supply to make any difference?
Probably because it really doesn't relate to the
^ Some people may have really cruddy/noisy AC power. A better linear PS
could help, typically just the isolation from the transformer itself
could be the main factor. I noticed the diff between the stock PS and
my custom one, but actually just using a decent *linear* wall-wart
(most unavailable
darrenyeats;693273 Wrote:
Where is MCR when you need him?
Both sides of the debate need to be taken to task.
On the digital side, those who claim converting lossless formats,
copying files, transfer over a computer network and so on, cause
differences are misinformed. The way digital
UV101;693314 Wrote:
When you say lower value film cap, what sort of value do you mean?
I've found that you can loose some bass and sound a little thin if you
go lower than 2.2uF. I never have an issue with 4.7uF.
With value i mean replacing a 100µF cap with some audiophile 4,7µF film
is a
Phil Leigh;693313 Wrote:
the question is straightforward, but there is a hidden implication. Why
should it matter if I connect a DAC via TOSLINK or Coax when evaluating
an upgraded PSU?
What happened to the baby and the bath water?
for what it is worth, using my external DAC connected
I thought it was down to cost that cheap elco's were used. There are
plenty of designs on some more expensive kit that use film caps under
10uf for dc blocking.
I take your point that the new rubycon Z caps are very good and much
cheaper than the older ones. I still can't get my head around
One thing i see for your Touch is that the evaluation Board from Asahi
themself uses no caps in the output of the 4420.
http://www.asahi-kasei.co.jp/akm/en/product/ak4420/ak4420.html
One more thing is that i saw you exchange the clocks with some mudules
that have several cm of wire. How does
Its already been stated that the dc blocking caps on the touch are not
required by the AK dac chip as it already outputs 0v dc. Mine are
removed and the pads linked.
The clocks are low noise regulation powering quality oscillators.
Ideally they should be much closer to the mux chips they supply
item_audio;693322 Wrote:
If I can Paxman you for a direct answer: do you believe it's possible
for a better PSU to improve an SB connected optically to a DAC?
No doubt you see the implication of the question, and why it relates so
directly to the less alarming conclusions reached by TAS.
item_audio;693320 Wrote:
Little disagreement between us: philosophically/scientifically entering
Gödel territory, I don't feel quite the certainty you do about
'possible causes', but I agree the digital argument for asynchronous
storage and data transfer currently looks chinkless.
However
UV101;693325 Wrote:
The details are here
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=91794
This tiny layout is really hard to work with. I replaced my OP amps and
the caps several times myself. That was a real PITA and i am glad my
device still works. Inside the Touch there is even less
Ok, I understand it now: circuli inprobus
P
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totoro;692478 Wrote:
The volume control in the sb3 was digital and done in software. So yes,
attenutators for protection were a really good idea.
The volume control in ALL the products is digital. My confirmation was
that the limit parameter only had an effect on the analog outputs.
Do
evdplancke;693210 Wrote:
I noticed that flac files after RC filtering are smaller than before.
How do you explain that? Does it mean that there is a loss in
resolution? My guess: it is probably due to bass and treble rolloff in
the target curve.
Quite apart from the fact that inguz doesn't
totoro;693327 Wrote:
I think you must be confusing Godel with someone else. The
incompleteness theorems essentially say that any formal system capable
of expressing arithmetic are capable of encoding liar sentences.
This basically means that there does not exist a formal language which
is
item_audio;693320 Wrote:
Little disagreement between us: philosophically/scientifically entering
Gödel territory, I don't feel quite the certainty you do about
'possible causes',
OK, if you think that currently accepted possible causes don't cast
the net widely enough, please be specific
cfraser;693293 Wrote:
For those of you that use an iGadget to control your SBT, do you use the
ssh app that Klaus recommends? Is it hard to use? I only want to do very
simple things, like turn the display on/off say, or tt -s to see how
things are. Does it work sort of like the command
This is the size of the file generated by the demo version of
audiolense, once converted to flac. It is more compressed with RC than
without.
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pski;69 Wrote:
The volume control in ALL the products is digital. My confirmation was
that the limit parameter only had an effect on the analog outputs.
Do attenu-tators turn your 'taters into antenna?
Thank you in advance for your clarification.
P
Ah, I see. Sorry.
Yes, they had
There is another terminal app called Terminus if you want to explore
alternatives when using SSH
It can bookmark connections and remember passwords so if one uses
static ip addressing it becomes simple a one click operation to open a
session with any of my players or the server.
My main use to
darrell;693341 Wrote:
snip
Again, please be specific, if you are not simply erecting straw men.
If you can agree:
1. several orders of magnitude more influential, and
2. any malarkey going on in the transport is extremely unlikely to be
audible, indeed, it should be assumed to be
Maybe we can just come to the conclusion
a) the authors of the TAS article have found sensational results.
(if we believe them: their findings are really sensational and
groundbreaking
if we don't believe them: hey - we didn't ever believe one could come
up with such a lot bullshit)
b) when one
Wombat;693331 Wrote:
This tiny layout is really hard to work with.
This I think is one of the reasons John is looking at alternatives to
opening up the unit. Most people just dont want to open the unit and
start removing / replacing components.
Wombat;693331 Wrote:
I saw real world
This DAC seems to be an really old design what does it's manual say ?
Even if it's filter is 24bit it seems to be an 18bit DAC and I supose
limited to 48kHZ
You can still use with a SBT untill you play 96 or 88.2 kHz content .
Otherwise an SB3 also outputs 24bit so it truncates to 18 probably
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