Jeff Flowerday;698972 Wrote:
That's why lots of us run the stock Logitech priorities with the rest of
TT 3.0 mods.
Just 'cause you enjoy the loss of the remote, like to have the screen
switched off and feel the need to drill a hole in the wall for the
ethernet cable? :D :D
The TT3.0 doesn't
SBGK;698976 Wrote:
I would agree, TT3.0 sounds pretty awful in my system as well, I found
it unlistenable. But, things have moved on, the priority settings above
are a vast improvement on TT3.0 and the Touch default settings, so maybe
you need to have a triple blind test which include these
darrell;698981 Wrote:
There seems to be a misunderstanding here - A double blind test is not
so called because you are testing 2 alternatives. It is double blind
because neither the person or persons taking part in the test, nor the
organiser of the test know which of the alternatives is in
Interesting findings yesterday!
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showpost.php?p=698970postcount=1936
HWmods made no difference, but at least did not sound worse.
CD-player vs SBT as a digital source made no clear difference.
Teddy Pardo TTouch PSU made a difference, and IMO an improvement.
My
JohnSwenson;698661 Wrote:
The recent questions in this thread are actually very important and are
at the crux of a LOT of discussion in audiophiledom these days. I'll
try and take a stab at answering some of these based on what I have
uncovered by designing my own DAC over the last 10 years
NoRoDa;699010 Wrote:
Just 'cause you enjoy the loss of the remote, like to have the screen
switched off and feel the need to drill a hole in the wall for the
ethernet cable? :D :D
The TT3.0 doesn't improve the sound, so why bother?
Regards
I leave IR on actually and could use my $70
NoRoDa;698970 Wrote:
Our problem? The best sound in the house on every test came from the
wireless connected factory default SBT!
So yes, there is a difference when implementing TT3.0, it makes the SBT
sound worse*.
Not surprising. Mods that make things sound -different- aren't always
Jeff Flowerday;699032 Wrote:
I leave IR on actually and could use my $70 wireless bridge if I wasn't
wired already.
You haven't done your test with the default priorites so how do you
know? You are discounting all the mods on your dislike of the default
TT 3 priorities which are what
SBGK;698976 Wrote:
so maybe you need to have a triple blind test which include these
settings.
Of course, that's what all the naysayers have been missing. To really
detect the effects of these revolutionary mods one needs an equally
revolutionary test method: triple blind. Please, do tell
aubuti;699050 Wrote:
of course, that's what all the naysayers have been missing. To really
detect the effects of these revolutionary mods one needs an equally
revolutionary test method: Triple blind. Please, do tell exactly how
that works
lol!
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NoRoDa;699044 Wrote:
IR and no screen? How is that useful?
I have gadgets to browse the music library. I like hitting pause
quickly on my harmony remote to answer the phone/door or run to the
beer fridge.
The screen on the touch is too small from a large distance to be useful
at all.
Our
JJZolx;699001 Wrote:
Yes. SoX can do both DSP and codec conversion/decoding. You have the
choice of the output format, so you could go from either FLAC or WAV
file inputs to WAV as the streaming format. It's just a matter of
setting up the right custom-convert.conf rules and then setting the
NoRoDa;699015 Wrote:
I know there are a lot of people that will say I'm wrong.
But did you listen without knowing what you are listening to?
You'll need two SBTs to do this ;)
Regards
Now you are aware that this is the audiophiles section of the forum
and that blind or double blind
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pippin;699071 Wrote:
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You lost me with this one, please explain.
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Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels - Snatch - The Transporter -
Transporter 2 (oops) - Touch
'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/jazzfann/)
Twitter slang for loving something or someone. Something in this case:
your post (sorry).
3 looks like a heart lying on it's side.
Actually although it got more common recently, I'd bet someone will now
crawl in here and say it's already dating back to usenet times and is
not at all related to
ralphpnj;699064 Wrote:
Now you are aware that this is the audiophiles section of the forum
and that blind or double blind listening tests are considered
worthless, especially when these tests result in finding out almost all
audiophile beliefs are just myths. In fact, all listening tests,
pippin;699078 Wrote:
Twitter slang for loving something or someone. Something in this case:
your post (sorry).
3 looks like a heart lying on it's side.
Actually although it got more common recently, I'd bet someone will now
crawl in here and say it's already dating back to usenet times
NoRoDa;698970 Wrote:
Try harder ;)
Today I participated in a blind test between two SBTs, a true
eye-opener!!
Differences? Hell yeah, a WLAN factory default SBT with Teddy PSU does
sound different from a wired-LAN HWmod TT3.0 default SBT with Teddy
PSU!
We took turns listening while
ralphpnj;698166 Wrote:
Thanks for the update. As per my comment no. 6 in post #9 above perhaps
the Touch will get more respect in the high end audio magazines
especially if Triode has to go over the reviewer's house to help with
the set up.
(LMAO) Very, very true! :-)
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NoRoDa;699015 Wrote:
Interesting findings yesterday!
HWmods made no difference, but at least did not sound worse.
Regards
Which hardware mods had been implemented? Were you using coax or
optical to the DAC?
Thanks,
John S.
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magiccarpetride;699086 Wrote:
Try even harder! There could not be any differences in the sound quality
between two SBTs. It's just not scientifically possible. You guys are
merely imagining things. How can Teddy PSU realistically make any
difference? Explain that if you can!
Your two
JohnSwenson;699090 Wrote:
Which hardware mods had been implemented? Were you using coax or optical
to the DAC?
Thanks,
John S.
You have a PM regarding the HW mods.
BJC coax to the Buffalo II DAC
Regards
Rolf
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NoRoDa;699102 Wrote:
Your two personalities really should have different usernames in here
;)
The thrill of blind testing differences is that you don't have to think
about things like is it possible or the bias in your brain telling you
what to hear when you know what is playing.
Give
The music will have passed through a few ASRC's on its way to the CD or
download that you purchased... Don't feel too bad about this though ...
It's just another part of the enigma
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call
That sound you can hear is the tailors working feverishly on the
Emporers New Clothes
A change is gonna come...
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You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it
ain't what you'd call minimal...
Touch(wired/W7)+Teddy Pardo PSU - Audiolense 3.3/2.0+INGUZ DRC
adamdea;699021 Wrote:
John, I have two questions
1) given your objection to ASRC, does it follow that not only is it
necessary to use a different method of cleaning up the clock, it is
necessary to use a multibit dac chip- won't a delta sigma chip require
rather more drastic sample rate
JohnSwenson;699090 Wrote:
Which hardware mods had been implemented? Were you using coax or optical
to the DAC?
Thanks,
John S.
Since it was my set-up that was under examinations/blind testing I can
say a few words about it:
Bryston 7B SST
Meridian 568.2MM as pre.
ATC SCM 40
Buffalo
It doesn't have to be valid for anyone but yourself now, does it?
For me it's the what do I prefer that is important. Not what anyone
else might believe. ;)
I now know that i prefer my SBT in it's original condition, with my
Teddy Pardo PSU connected. IMO the TT3.0 does make a change, it's just
You've been listening to too many Enigma Variations. ;) ;)
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System information
Main: PS Audio Quintet Vortexbox Teddy Pardo PS, Touch (wired)
Toslink Rega DAC LFD LE IV Signature amp VA Mozart Grands REL
Acoustics R305.
Home Theatre: Duet/SBR
baardbaard;699118 Wrote:
Since it was my set-up that was under examinations/blind testing I can
say a few words about it:
Bryston 7B SST
Meridian 568.2MM as pre.
ATC SCM 40
Buffalo DAC II w/IVY - coax SPDIF
One SB Touch w/ factory settings w/Teddy Pardo PSU WLAN
One SB Touch w/ HW
ralphpnj;699064 Wrote:
Now you are aware that this is the audiophiles section of the forum
and that blind or double blind listening tests are considered
worthless, especially when these tests result in finding out almost all
audiophile beliefs are just myths. In fact, all listening tests,
NoRoDa;699122 Wrote:
It doesn't have to be valid for anyone but yourself now, does it?
For me it's the what do I prefer that is important. Not what anyone
else might believe. ;)
I now know that i prefer my SBT in it's original condition, with my
Teddy Pardo PSU connected. IMO the TT3.0 does
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1. Post results of sweep tests with calibrated microphones and static
microphones and speakers (and amps, and everything else) that indicate
improvement.
2. Admit digital is beyond your comprehension.
3. Bask in glory for your contributions.
Which of these is LEAST likely?
1.
p
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MCG555;699134 Wrote:
+1
Brilliant post! :-)
Thanks. I do feel just a little (and I mean really, really little) bit
undeserving of praise since poking fun at the high end audio magazines
is like shooting fish in a barrel. They truly are such fools and leave
themselves wide open for much
JohnSwenson;699117 Wrote:
My objection to ASRC is that the current implementations out there don't
seem to sound good to me. I don't have an objection to the concept, but
I haven't heard an actual implementation that I like. My guess is that
it's the issue I have with almost all digital
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