Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What The Future Of Audio Might Look Like In A Digital World

2015-06-28 Thread Archimago
jh901 wrote: > I don't necessarily have an argument against the notion that DSP+DRC can > deliver good sound that is affordable to nearly everyone. I can tell > you for sure that I wouldn't anyone to believe for one second that it > takes the investment I've made in order to create a rather spec

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2015-06-28 Thread jh901
arnyk wrote: > > best support I can give you: Do listening tests that involve actual > audible differences, or at least have some non-zero probability of > involving audible differences. > > If there is a zero-probability of audible differences, then ABX results will be nothing more than rand

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2015-06-28 Thread arnyk
Archimago wrote: > Couldn't find info on these "Wax" cables. What are they like? 18327 +---+ |Filename: Zu Wax cables.jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmenti

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2015-06-28 Thread arnyk
jh901 wrote: > You aren't helping. > I'm helping the way one helps people who are paddling their canoe over a waterfall. > > Is there any chance that you could be convinced to provide support which > you believe will increase the chance that a good time will be had by > all? best support

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2015-06-28 Thread jh901
Archimago wrote: > Couldn't find info on these "Wax" cables. What are they like? Zu Audio Wax speaker cables I think they came out 2001, so they've been discontinued for some time. I can't find a link with specs, but I bet there's something out there. I know that the conductor is copper and t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2015-06-28 Thread Archimago
jh901 wrote: > Now that I think about it, I still have my Zu Audio Wax cables, which > have a copper conductor. I'm not sure what gauge or if there are any > specs which would create a problem. Anyhow, I've made the switch. I'd > intended to do so anyhow after several months with the Analysis

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2015-06-28 Thread Archimago
jh901 wrote: > Noted. Appreciated. Here comes the credit card. My first gear > purchase in about 10 months. BTW. 2x12G runs is 9G so if you have biwire inputs on the Diablo, you could do this and twist the 2 wires on the amp side together... You can have fun braiding the cables together as we

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2015-06-28 Thread jh901
Now that I think about it, I still have my Zu Audio Wax cables, which have a copper conductor. I'm not sure what gauge or if there are any specs which would create a problem. Anyhow, I've made the switch. I'd intended to do so anyhow after several months with the Analysis Plus. I will eventual

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] power strips/conditioners

2015-06-28 Thread Julf
jh901 wrote: > Plug a Shunyata Defender into the same outlet as the strip and report > back. Or a $15 X10 power filter. "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid gilt edge that will fool many people

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2015-06-28 Thread jh901
Wombat wrote: > I have no exact impedance plots but the Diablo should have no surprise > there. A simple 2-way with single mid-bass and Focal chassis does not > have low dips in impedance. Noted. Appreciated. Here comes the credit card. My first gear purchase in about 10 months. Cary Audio

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2015-06-28 Thread Wombat
jh901 wrote: > Thanks! I'll pick up some 12G. Is anyone going to protest that the > conductor in my Analysis Plus is 9G? My speakers are listed below, so > if there are any specs which create some doubts, then I'd rather find > out now. I have no exact impedance plots but the Diablo should hav

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What The Future Of Audio Might Look Like In A Digital World

2015-06-28 Thread jh901
arnyk wrote: > Typical of self-defeating audiophile prejudices. > > arnyk wrote: > > > The potential audible benefits of: > > is zero. No comment. Cary Audio 306 SACD Pro | Cary Audio SLP-05 | Cary Audio SA-200.2 | Focal Diablo Utopia III __Acoustic treatment: DIY Cylinder Bass traps

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2015-06-28 Thread jh901
Archimago wrote: > > For speaker cables, although 14G is likely more than adequate for short > lengths, I'd see about getting a roll of 12G just in case one day you > want to make long runs. (This is what I did for >30' lengths to reach my > surround speakers.) > > Have fun and let us know how

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2015-06-28 Thread jh901
arnyk wrote: > > > Between inexperience with doing listening tests that are actually > listening tests and therefore put a premium on listener training, and > doing listening tests that are by design destined to produce > random-guessing type results, it is easy to predict that a bad time will

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] power strips/conditioners

2015-06-28 Thread jh901
Plug a Shunyata Defender into the same outlet as the strip and report back. Cary Audio 306 SACD Pro | Cary Audio SLP-05 | Cary Audio SA-200.2 | Focal Diablo Utopia III __Acoustic treatment: DIY Cylinder Bass traps | "Rule of Thirds" for speaker & sweet spot position __Speaker Cables: Analysis P

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] power strips/conditioners

2015-06-28 Thread netchord
made a small change to my 2nd system (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?41527-A-Photo-of-your-Transporter-setup-Please!&p=822445&viewfull=1#post822445) which occasioned the new pics, and was surprised by the sonic transformation, which was unexpected. some years back I bought one of th

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What The Future Of Audio Might Look Like In A Digital World

2015-06-28 Thread ralphpnj
jh901 wrote: > I don't necessarily have an argument against the notion that DSP+DRC can > deliver good sound that is affordable to nearly everyone. I can tell > you for sure that I wouldn't anyone to believe for one second that it > takes the investment I've made in order to create a rather spec

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2015-06-28 Thread ralphpnj
Julf wrote: > As many of the heated arguments seem to stem from loose terminology, I > think it is good to strive towards using precise terms. A test like this > only fails if it doesn't provide any information at all - it is so badly > designed or executed that the results are totally inconclusi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2015-06-28 Thread Julf
jkeny wrote: > Sorry, loose terminology - what I mean is "fail" to be able to > differentiate between the two devices/samples - getting a null result or > a result statistically close to random guessing. As many of the heated arguments seem to stem from loose terminology, I think it is good to s

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What The Future Of Audio Might Look Like In A Digital World

2015-06-28 Thread arnyk
jh901 wrote: > The basics of Audyssey in modern AVRs/AVPs are about as easy as one > could expect. I'm personally not interested in this sort of calibration > or DSP for audiophile hi-end stereo systems. I'm mostly interested in > the digital transport developments, USB DACs, and the possible >

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What The Future Of Audio Might Look Like In A Digital World

2015-06-28 Thread arnyk
jh901 wrote: > I don't necessarily have an argument against the notion that DSP+DRC can > deliver good sound that is affordable to nearly everyone. I can tell > you for sure that I wouldn't anyone to believe for one second that it > takes the investment I've made in order to create a rather spec

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2015-06-28 Thread arnyk
jh901 wrote: > Sure would be interesting if any number of bickering audiophiles lived > near one another! Well, southwest PA isn't what I'd call audiophile > country, but we do have about the hottest new food scene in the US > (subjectively speaking). Perhaps we'll find a well regarded member w

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2015-06-28 Thread Archimago
jh901 wrote: > Sure would be interesting if any number of bickering audiophiles lived > near one another! Well, southwest PA isn't what I'd call audiophile > country, but we do have about the hottest new food scene in the US > (subjectively speaking). Perhaps we'll find a well regarded member w