I recomend VDA2 + VAC1
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Phil Leigh;186468 Wrote:
Hmmm - this noise would appear not to trouble the many Lavry fans so I
wonder why not? Maybe it is effectively filtered out elsewhere? (I know
prevention is better than cure but...)
Sorry, I never meant to imply that the DA10 doesn't sound good. I've
never heard one,
Anybody has internal pics of the Benchmark?
Given the small footprint and low profile chassis, I suspect it also
has a switching power supply.
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crooner;186364 Wrote:
I read the thread on DIYhifi.org's forums. It seems the Lavry is plagued
with problems. Even the much hyped Crystalock feature is subpar!
Judging by the internal photos shown of the Lavry on the aformentioned
thread, it appears to use a very cheap (and noisy)
Ben Diss;186391 Wrote:
If it's such a piece of crap, why does it sound so good?
Probably because:
1) It is perfectly possible to design a switching PSU that outperforms
a linear one (see Linn and Chord for examples)
2) NE55xx's were/are used in many top-end mixing desks and outboard
gear so a
Ben Diss;186391 Wrote:
If it's such a piece of crap, why does it sound so good?
Having read the thread on DIYHifi forum, I don't think anyone is saying
it's a piece of crap. Just that it doesn't work the way that Lavry
claims.
Phil Leigh;186424 Wrote:
Probably because:
1) It is perfectly
cliveb;186453 Wrote:
Yes, but one of the points made in that thread was that the switching
PSU inside the DA10 is a cheap off-the-shelf one, and it has stacks of
noise on the power rails.
Hmmm - this noise would appear not to trouble the many Lavry fans so I
wonder why not? Maybe it is
mlsstl;186331 Wrote:
I would not want to do business with an entity with such low
integrity.
I think you are rushing to judgment. I own a DA-10 and think it sounds
marvelous. I've also followed the discussion over at diyhifi.org and at
lavry.com. Several points to consider.
1. The
Pat Farrell;186352 Wrote:
P Floding wrote:
In addition I don't think cranking out DACs is such an impressive
thing
compared to a lot of electronics engineering. It's a bunch of
standard
parts, after all.
Isn't that where we were in the late 70s, all amplifiers sound alike
because
I have not read this whole thread but since I sell the Benchmark, Lavry
DA10 and Transporter, and having previously owned a the Trivista 21 I
feel I am in a better place to comment than most.
My pick of the bunch, if connected directly to a power amp, the
Transporter by a long shot, connect via
FYI, there's a *very* heated thread taking place at diyhifi.org on the
Lavry DA-10. The jist of it is that there are some folks claiming that
the DA-10 basically does not do what it claims. I highly recommend
reading this before you purchase:
ezkcdude;186228 Wrote:
FYI, there's a *very* heated thread taking place at diyhifi.org on the
Lavry DA-10. The jist of it is that there are some folks claiming that
the DA-10 basically does not do what it claims. I highly recommend
reading this before you purchase:
Don't miss these two threads:
http://lavryengineering.com/lavry_forum/viewtopic.php?t=337
http://lavryengineering.com/lavry_forum/viewtopic.php?t=180
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Ben Diss;186290 Wrote:
Don't miss these two threads:
http://lavryengineering.com/lavry_forum/viewtopic.php?t=337
http://lavryengineering.com/lavry_forum/viewtopic.php?t=180
I don't have a login at Lavry..
But thanks anyway for the tip.
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P Floding
No, I didn't ABX it. And I won't even
P Floding;186283 Wrote:
I read the entire thread, and it sure gives an additional dimension to
the objectivist vs. subjectivist debate.
This thread is one of the funniest things I've ever read...
bit accurate apparently is the be all and end all...if only life were
that simple. Bits are easy
Phil Leigh;186293 Wrote:
This thread is one of the funniest things I've ever read...
bit accurate apparently is the be all and end all...if only life were
that simple. Bits are easy - analogue is really the hard bit!
Seems bits are not so easy for some designers.
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No, I
P Floding;186301 Wrote:
Seems bits are not so easy for some designers.
But, that thread opens very interesting question, for me at least.
Assuming that the price/sound quality ratio of DA10 is right, and
assumig that it works as advertised with regarding to its features, do
we even care that
slimkid;186305 Wrote:
But, that thread opens very interesting question, for me at least.
Assuming that the price/sound quality ratio of DA10 is right, and
assumig that it works as advertised with regarding to its features, do
we even care that there are questionable technical explanations
slimkid;186305 Wrote:
Assuming that the price/sound quality ratio of DA10 is right, and
assumig that it works as advertised with regarding to its features, do
we even care that there are questionable technical explanations made by
its creator, or that there are some parts that are non
P Floding;186311 Wrote:
I would care a great deal, as in one case I can forget about
interconnect problems, noise entering the SPDIF link, etc, etc, and in
the other case all things that should not matter suddenly do matter.
What a bummer.
Additionally, it may cause one to wonder whether
I love my DA10. I auditioned 4 different DACs and chose this one.
Still, I had to do a little test. I had my wife help me do a blind A-B
test to see if I could hear the difference between Crystal mode and Wide
mode. I could NOT tell the difference after many attempts. For
reference I have a
Ben Diss;186323 Wrote:
Still, I had to do a little test. I had my wife help me do a blind A-B
test to see if I could hear the difference between Crystal mode and Wide
mode. I could NOT tell the difference after many attempts. For
reference I have a stock SB3 and a Blue Jeans digital
I would not want to do business with an entity with such low
integrity.
I think you are rushing to judgment. I own a DA-10 and think it sounds
marvelous. I've also followed the discussion over at diyhifi.org and at
lavry.com. Several points to consider.
1. The fellow who started the debate
mlsstl;186331 Wrote:
I would not want to do business with a entity with such low
integrity.
I think you are rushing to judgment. I own a DA-10 and think it sounds
marvelous. I've also followed the discussion over at diyhifi.org and at
lavry.com. Several points to consider.
1. The
In addition I don't think cranking out DACs is such an impressive
thing compared to a lot of
electronics engineering. It's a bunch of standard parts, after all.
Then there are a lot of awfully overpriced units on the market,
including the Transporter.
My personal opinion is that the debate
P Floding wrote:
In addition I don't think cranking out DACs is such an impressive thing
compared to a lot of electronics engineering. It's a bunch of standard
parts, after all.
Isn't that where we were in the late 70s, all amplifiers sound alike
because they all have the same parts and same
mlsstl;186349 Wrote:
some pretty strong accusations. JohnW obviously shows technical
competence in his writings, but he certainly is not forthcoming about
his interests.
However, I've said my piece and people can take it or leave it as they
wish.
Judging by the internal photos shown of the Lavry DA10 on the
DIYhifi.org site, it appears to use a very cheap switching power
supply.
I can't imagine this being superior or even comparable to the
Transporter or any other quality DAC for that matter.
To make matters worse, it uses a low cost
Thanks
I've heard great things about the PS audio as well. Anyways, I have the
lavry and will audition it for the next couple weeks. If you see or hear
of any reviews that compare both units and might help change my opinion
of the lavry, please let me know.
I'm not sure I'm going to buy a second
I haven't heard the Lavry, but the Musical Fidelity is a very nice
sounding unit and I like the tube flavor. I found an Electrocompaniet
ECD-1 DAC for $1000 and that's the one I ended up with, very smooth
sound, no harshness or stridency at all. I heard the Musical Fidelity
several years ago and
mmg_fan;185487 Wrote:
Why does MF make 'limited production' units?
Because it sells well.
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P Floding
No, I didn't ABX it. And I won't even if you ask me. (Especially not if
you ask me.)
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mmg_fan;185487 Wrote:
Why does MF make 'limited production' units?
Some of the nuvista have limited supply, meaning they will have to
limit production in order to have enough components for both production
and as spare parts.
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johann;185691 Wrote:
Some of the nuvista have limited supply, meaning they will have to
limit production in order to have enough components for both production
and as spare parts.
Yeah, but after the limited Nu-Vista pre-amp was sold out another
nuvista based component came out, and then
I have the Lavry DA-10 and think it is a wonderful DAC. Very musical,
smooth and outstanding resolution. I tried a Transporter and it wasn't
worth the extra cost to me. I think I may even like the SB3/Lavry combo
a bit better, but don't have a way to compare that back-to-back with a
Transporter.
P Floding;185699 Wrote:
Yeah, but after the limited Nu-Vista pre-amp was sold out another
nuvista based component came out, and then another, and so on.
So you know the components in the different Nuvista based products are
exactly the same?
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johann;185738 Wrote:
So you know the components in the different Nuvista based products are
exactly the same?
No, but does it matter?
If you sell something exclusive, based on a nuvistor (a small metal
canned valve), and then keep selling Nuvista stuff after the
exclusive series is finished
P Floding;185756 Wrote:
No, but does it matter?
If you sell something exclusive, based on a nuvistor (a small metal
canned valve), and then keep selling Nuvista stuff after the
exclusive series is finished you dilute the exclusivity.
I'm not saying this is wrong, just that marketing tactics
thanks, got the lavry,
would have like to AB against the Trivista, but compared to other
similar priced DACS (ie Benchmark etc) seems like a no brainer based on
the reviews i've read.
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Phil Leigh;185780 Wrote:
I think you'll find that they managed to source some more (from pretty
exotic places) and they wanted to build a variety of components
(pre-amp, DAC etc).
I don't believe it was a marketing gimmick.
The Trivista is a small glass valve (with solder-in leads, I
Just out of curiousity, did you consider or audition the PS Audio
Digital Link III? It's supposed to have a nice warm sound and is right
around the same price range:
http://www.psaudio.com/products/digital_link_iii.asp
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I'm about too buy a new DAC, the Lavry DA10, but saw an ad for a used MF
Trivista for about the same price.
I'm very curious if anyone has any opinion of either unit and can help
me with my decision...
Why does MF make 'limited production' units?
Apparently only about 800 Trivista's made it
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