Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-08-10 Thread iPhone
earwaxer9;568153 Wrote: > Gordon Rankin (Wavelength Audio) has said that USB cables sound > different! I take his word for it. He is, after all, the brains behind > the asyncronous USB protocol! - I haven't evaluated USB in any way > shape or form - I don't use USB for audio. Is this more Trolli

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-08-10 Thread earwaxer9
pski;567935 Wrote: > Bwa? USB cables "sound" different? Go ahead and get a job with MONSTER > (or BOSE.) Unless you are talking about USB 1.0 vs USB 2.0 cables, > bugger off! > > P Gordon Rankin (Wavelength Audio) has said that USB cables sound different! I take his word for it. He is, after al

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-08-10 Thread NewBuyer
pski;567935 Wrote: > Bwa?... Please - what does "Bwa" mean? -- NewBuyer NewBuyer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7862 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80786 ___

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-08-09 Thread pski
earwaxer9;567428 Wrote: > Ok - 1st impressions of the cat7 - I'm actually pleased to find that my > 1st impression is that I really dont find any difference (sound wise) > between the cat5e el cheapo Walmart cable and the SOTA Sanwa cat7. They > actually cost about the same - 20 bucks for the 25

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-08-09 Thread pski
Gazjam;567845 Wrote: > which was kinda where I was going with the unshielded/shielded choice of > cable... > point was there may be a POTENTIAL for a problem. > > what does a ground loop sound like though ;) If you are in one place, it would be a 50cycle hum. At another it would be a 60cycle hu

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-08-09 Thread Gazjam
Phil Leigh;567783 Wrote: > This whole thread is bizarre. > The only issue here is whether or not your ethernet cable is > accidentally causing a ground loop (only possible with shielded cat - > which is why it should not be used) or if it is providing a pathway for > stray RFI/EMI to enter your D

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-08-09 Thread michael123
Phil Leigh;567783 Wrote: > This whole thread is bizarre. I would call it funny :) -- michael123 michael123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23745 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-08-09 Thread Phil Leigh
This whole thread is bizarre. The only issue here is whether or not your ethernet cable is accidentally causing a ground loop (only possible with shielded cat - which is why it should not be used) or if it is providing a pathway for stray RFI/EMI to enter your DAC - again most likely with shielded

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-08-09 Thread probedb
earwaxer9;567428 Wrote: > To my understanding, an asynchronous USB would be most similar to > Ethernet in the transmission of digital data. I still believe Ethernet > is superior. Not only due to the fact that Ethernet can be used over > much longer distances, *but also much higher frequencies*.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-08-09 Thread Gazjam
heh, I thought you were joking about buying cat7! :) Is it shielded or unshielded though...if there IS anything to this its probably that, rather than whether the connectors are gold or not. ;) -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-08-07 Thread earwaxer9
Ok - 1st impressions of the cat7 - I'm actually pleased to find that my 1st impression is that I really dont find any difference (sound wise) between the cat5e el cheapo Walmart cable and the SOTA Sanwa cat7. They actually cost about the same - 20 bucks for the 25 ft cat5e, and about the same on t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-08-05 Thread Gazjam
Stratmangler;566611 Wrote: > Something about the cable satisfies you psychologically, so things sound > better ? > > The reason the cable is thicker is that there is a plastic divider down > the length of the cable, to keep the pairs separated. > Because the cable is stiffer as a result of the p

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-08-04 Thread earwaxer9
Gazjam;566216 Wrote: > See you use JPS labs power cables... > yeah, Id call you crazy.;) As you will see - I'm not as crazy as you may think! Ok - so I got their "digital" cable - one the more "affordable" JPS offerings. I did notice "some" improvement in focus and lack of what I would say is "

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-08-04 Thread Stratmangler
Gazjam;566582 Wrote: > Hey Chris, > > Cat6a turned up, quite a bit thicker than the Cat5 it replaces, better > fitted more solid RJ45 plugs too, maybe because of the higher spec > cableI dunno..? > > I run my Touch wired from an access point in the listening room which > is connected in tur

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-08-04 Thread Gazjam
Stratmangler;566532 Wrote: > Has your Cat6 cable turned up yet Gaz ? > Which position does it sound best in; PC to router, or router to Touch > ? > > Chris ;) Hey Chris, Cat6a turned up, quite a bit thicker that cat5.. I run my Touch from an access point in the listening room which is connec

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-08-04 Thread michael123
Gazjam;566216 Wrote: > See you use JPS labs power cables... > yeah, Id call you crazy.;) JPS indeed produce some crazy power cords that may fit nicely for nuclear reactors -- michael123 michael123's Profile: http://forum

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-08-04 Thread Stratmangler
Has your Cat6 cable turned up yet Gaz ? Which position does it sound best in; PC to router, or router to Touch ? Chris ;) -- Stratmangler There is no element of personal attack in my response. Stratmangler's Profile: htt

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-08-02 Thread Gazjam
earwaxer9;566210 Wrote: > I just ordered a cat7 cable - 25 footer. Only 20 pops. Gold plated > connector. It's red as well! Just for the jollies. I'll tell you what > the verdict is after a good "break-in" etc. Sure its crazy! - but > that's what makes us "AUDIOPHILES". Look - I was very happy wi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-08-02 Thread Gazjam
uh huh... :) -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80786 ___ audiop

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-08-02 Thread Robin Bowes
On 03/08/10 00:32, earwaxer9 wrote: > I just ordered a cat7 cable - 25 footer. Only 20 pops. Gold plated > connector. It's red as well! Just for the jollies. I'll tell you what > the verdict is after a good "break-in" etc. Sure its crazy! - but > that's what makes us "AUDIOPHILES". Look - I was ve

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-08-02 Thread earwaxer9
I just ordered a cat7 cable - 25 footer. Only 20 pops. Gold plated connector. It's red as well! Just for the jollies. I'll tell you what the verdict is after a good "break-in" etc. Sure its crazy! - but that's what makes us "AUDIOPHILES". Look - I was very happy with the transporter over WIFI for

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-08-02 Thread Gazjam
I'll let you know Chris... ;) -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80786 __

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-08-02 Thread Stratmangler
Gazjam;566158 Wrote: > All silly nonsense aside (Yes, I'm looking at YOU Audioquest) could > there be a case for a shielded Ethernet cable causing an HF Bridge into > the SB Touch? > > Elsewhere in the audiophile forum here, there are steps described to > maximise the potential sound quality of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-08-02 Thread Gazjam
All silly nonsense aside (Yes, I'm looking at YOU Audioquest) could there be a case for a shielded Ethernet cable causing an HF Bridge into the SB Touch? Elsewhere in the audiophile forum here, there are steps described to maximise the potential sound quality of the SB touch...from Linux script f

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-07-30 Thread earwaxer9
I have also compared generic ethernet cables from 3ft to 25t. No difference in sound as far as I could tell. I now use the 25 footers. If cheap ethernet cable doesnt sound different over big length differences like that, I doubt there would be a difference in short "audiophile grade" cat-5. I'm op

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-07-29 Thread audiomuze
hey, don't knock it till you've tried it :P The best I've heard yet was some fool (apparently an audio engineer by profession before dedicating himself to making hi-fi and speaker stands) trying to tell me that placing my NAS on top one of his "sound structures" would noticeably enhance the sonic

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-07-29 Thread Gazjam
*dp* -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=80786 ___ audiophiles mai

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-07-29 Thread Gazjam
surprised they haven't thrown in "defeats Alien crosstalk" somewhere... -- Gazjam Gazjam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18604 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=807

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-07-29 Thread Stratmangler
funkstar;565152 Wrote: > Just like every other cable that conforms to the Cat5 spec. > > Oh dear. My thoughts precisely ;) -- Stratmangler There is no element of personal attack in my response. Stratmangler's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-07-29 Thread funkstar
> Critical Twist Geometry: Each pair has a different twist rate to prevent > inter-channel interference. Just like every other cable that conforms to the Cat5 spec. Oh dear. -- funkstar '[project log] funkstars digital lifestyle' (http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-lifestyle/179882-project-log-fu

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-07-28 Thread pski
Stratmangler;565021 Wrote: > http://www.divineaudio.co.uk/networking/cables/audioquest-cat5e-ethernet-cable-12m/prod_1910.html > > Saw this and nearly wet myself ! > > Chris :D Cat 5e? Not Cat 6? Not Cat 7a? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_7_cable P -- pski real stereo makes the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-07-28 Thread gizek
I bet my network would hit 100 Gigabit with this one :-) -- gizek Transporter > Adcom GFP-750 > Monarchy Audio SE-100 monoblocks > Proac Studio 100; Cardas Neutral Reference all over gizek's Profile: http://forums.slimdev

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-07-28 Thread InTheBath
Oh, I don't know. I quite like the turquoise with little red banded flashes. I might get one. My current cable is just beige. M. -- InTheBath InTheBath's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15679 View

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] One for the gullible ?

2010-07-28 Thread Stratmangler
http://www.divineaudio.co.uk/networking/cables/audioquest-cat5e-ethernet-cable-12m/prod_1910.html Saw this and nearly wet myself ! Chris :D -- Stratmangler There is no element of personal attack in my response. Stratman