After lots of fooling around with cables -- including fooling around
with very expensive cables -- I just gave up.
I more or less understood (understand) the science behind, but, being a
nervous audiophile, I couldn't help myself.
Now, here's the thing: at best, cable will offer some wee bit
opaqueice Wrote:
According to these guys, speaker cable is probably the LEAST important
element in an audio system:
http://tinyurl.com/j58nh
Your upgrade money might be better spent elsewhere. In any case, if
you do need new cable I find that bluejeanscable.com have a
refreshingly
earthbased Wrote:
Audio Phoolery:
http://www.ethanwiner.com/audiophoolery.html
While know-it-alls have said the same type of things the last 30 years
amazingly the state of art in stereo reproduction has come a long way
-much due to all those idiots who actually listen to how a system
sounds.
Ha! John, I thought you might be amused by this. I checked out the
Belden lines and in doing so had an exchange with one of their reps.
Who said at 15 ft, you could pretty much use some wire coat hangars
strung together. lol.
It's been a very interesting discussion - Thanks all!
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sebage
I'm with Deaf Cat, be brave and make some Cat5 or Cat6 twisted twins.
Regards
Simon
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What I'm using is actually fire alarm cable. It's 14 or 16 gauge solid
copper wire with Teflon insulation, in a twisted pair with polyethylene
or Teflon outer sleeve. It was labeled as New York City fire alarm
cable, but since then it seems that NYC has slackened their
specifications. That
According to these guys, speaker cable is probably the LEAST important
element in an audio system:
http://tinyurl.com/j58nh
Your upgrade money might be better spent elsewhere. In any case, if
you do need new cable I find that bluejeanscable.com have a
refreshingly no-nonsense attitude, and
Quoting opaqueice [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
According to these guys, speaker cable is probably the LEAST important
element in an audio system:
While I agree to a certain extent, his argument seems lame:
A high end compact disc (CD) player may cost several hundred to
thousands more than typical
Skunk Wrote:
Even though he shuns cable
manufacturers for using science (pseudo or not) in marketing, he uses
none in discourse.
I think if you look around on that site a little you'll find plenty of
science. For example:
http://tinyurl.com/p25ua
tests some speakers cables for
opaqueice Wrote:
I think if you look around on that site a little you'll find plenty of
science. For example:
I just meant his article, and feel your short explanation did a better
job arguing the point than his article.
Most aren't shielded, but on the other hand most audiophiles
I found Canare cable a few years ago. They make very nice microphone
cable that makes dandy interconnects. Their RCA jacks are also very
good and cheap. They have speaker wire as well. Good quality cable
with some science to back it up. Pro not high end but very good.
Sheldon
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I second the Canare recommendation, excellent cable. I use star-quad as
interconnects.
Sheldon: nice to see you on these boards. I've corresponded with you
many years ago in the rec.audio.tubes newsgroup. Looking forward to
your posts!
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crooner
Squeezebox 3 with DIY Linear Power Supply
crooner Wrote:
I use regular 14 gauge extension cord cable from Home Depot. The brand
is Commercial Electric.
Hear hear! Add my vote for extension cord.
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sebage Wrote:
Anti-cable looks great.
I have the anti-cables in my system. They sound fine, but my only
complaint is that they -don't- look great.
The wire has a degree of stiffness that's a little more malleable than
coathanger wire. Once they get bent around a little, they actually
sebage Wrote:
zooropa320 - what are you replacing with your bluejeans cable?
Replacing THX certified Monster Cable. Don't know the exact spec but I
needed longer cables and wanted to bi-wire my Magnepan 3.5Rs.I
replaced every cable in my system with items from bluejeanscable.com
I forgot to mention that as usual, your mileage may vary. Obviously
the HD didn't work out for you. I am sure expensive cables would sound
much better, but IMHO, for the price you can't beat them.
sebage Wrote:
Funnily enough, I had tried the 14 gauge route already, to try and
appease the
Mike Anderson Wrote:
I just ordered some of these from Parts Express:
http://tinyurl.com/rl67b
The glass optical cables work well, and don't cost an arm and a leg.
this one?
DAYTON GOC-1.5 GLASS OPTICAL DIGITAL CABLE
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zooropa320
You might take a look at the Mapleshade speaker wires.
http://www.mapleshaderecords.com/audioproducts/speakercable.php
Very nice sounding in my system. I had tried fat braided copper
bi-wires and DIY Cat5 before these. They were a big upgrade over both.
Plus versions are, I believe,
zooropa320 Wrote:
this one?
DAYTON GOC-1.5 GLASS OPTICAL DIGITAL CABLE
Yup, that's it.
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I use Kimber Kable 4TC that I am very satisfied with. I am unsure if it
will fit your budget, though.
Tom
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tomsi42
SqueezeBox2, Rotel RC-1070/RB-1070, dynaBel Exact.
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I like the look of Kimber, the TC range is abit out of my price range
for this project. Anyone had experience with the VS range?
ezkcdude I'll look out for your opinion in the next week.
I'm currently Biwiring using Cable Talk runs BTW. I'm taking the step
back to regular wiring do to new
sebage Wrote:
I like the look of Kimber, the TC range is abit out of my price range
for this project. Anyone had experience with the VS range?
ezkcdude I'll look out for your opinion in the next week.
I'm currently Biwiring using Cable Talk runs BTW. I'm taking the step
back to regular
I've also been considering the speltz anti-cable, and also the Guerilla
cable and Signal Ultra for a bedroom system. The anti-cable fits your
budget and the signal is pretty close, the guerilla a bit more.
someone just sold the signal ultra bi-wire (shotgun) 12' on a'gon for
$95.
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joncourage Wrote:
I've also been considering the speltz anti-cable, and also the Guerilla
cable and Signal Ultra for a bedroom system. The anti-cable fits your
budget and the signal is pretty close, the guerilla a bit more.
someone just sold the signal ultra bi-wire (shotgun) 12' on a'gon
I have had some Nordost stuff, QED Silver Annivery, VDH Clearwater and
now have twin runs of DNM Reson which is great, very transparent,
detailed and not lacking in bass. It's very thin solid core and you
must use the DNM solder plugs to get the best contact. £7 a metre, £4
for plugs it's a
here's one worth considering
http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?cablspkr1146524168
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Could give Cat5 a go:
http://www.venhaus1.com/diycatfivecables.html
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I use regular 15 gauge extension cord cable from Home Depot.
Yes! many audiophiles swear by them and were even reviewed by TAS, I
believe. The cable is orange. I biwire my Vandies with it. Sounds great
and cheap!
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crooner
Squeezebox 3 with DIY Linear Power Supply
Lite Audio DAC60 tube DAC
I was considering the anti-cables but I have longer runs which made them
cost prohibitive. I just purchased from bluejeanscable.com and am happy
with the value/price for my needs. They just arrived today so can't
comment on how they sound yet.
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