cliveb;154295 Wrote:
It's just occurred to me that the one test you haven't run is to feed
the NAD directly from the SB analogue output. This eliminates the
Yamaha entirely from the equation. If by doing this, you get the same
bad sound, then the SB DAC is implicated. If you get good sound,
pannetron;154468 Wrote:
Agreed this is a necessary test. But if it also yields weak bass, does
that implicate the SB's DAC or some other component in the SB's analog
output? Isn't there a linear op-amp IC in there or is that only for
the headphone output?
Sorry, I should have said that it
cliveb;154472 Wrote:
Sorry, I should have said that it would implicate the SB's analogue
output, not its DAC specifically. (For the record, I think the SB
analogue output is pretty damn good).
I've done some A/B tests with the SB3 DAC (analogue out) vs digital out
to the NAD DAC in my NAD
cliveb;154295 Wrote:
It's just occurred to me that the one test you haven't run is to feed
the NAD directly from the SB analogue output. This eliminates the
Yamaha entirely from the equation. If by doing this, you get the same
bad sound, then the SB DAC is implicated. If you get good sound,
beerbunny;153895 Wrote:
When I play a bass heavy song like Burning Down the House at volume
with the digital output connections (and tone controls neutral), it
punches you in the stomach and shakes the filament of a nearby
lightbulb. When I run the same song through the RCA analog at volume,
beerbunny;153750 Wrote:
Thanks for this suggestion. It's a great idea and helped me to (I think)
understand what is going on. I set the NAD aside and ran 1) SB2 optical
to Yamaha: good sound and bass; 2) SB2 RCA to Yamaha: poor sound, weak
bass; 3) didn't have digital coax cable so no SB2
Is your analogue volume at full...?
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beerbunny;153750 Wrote:
Thanks for this suggestion. It's a great idea and helped me to (I think)
understand what is going on. I set the NAD aside and ran 1) SB2 optical
to Yamaha: good sound and bass; 2) SB2 RCA to Yamaha: poor sound, weak
bass; 3) didn't have digital coax cable so no SB2
cliveb;153795 Wrote:
I don't necessarily agree with your conclusion. My experience is that
the SB2 DAC is actually pretty high quality.
Do we know whether the Yamaha digitises its analogue inputs? If it
does, then there is bound to be a gain mismatch between the digital and
analogue
To answer the other questions on page 2: I think my interconnects are
fine. On volume, when using the Yamaha, I keep the Slimserver software
volume at full and use the Yamaha volume to regulate speaker sound. I
do not have a subwoofer connected as the Paradigm Studio 100's produce
plenty of bass.
ajmitchell;153533 Wrote:
OK from your observations so far you seem to eliminated the NAD s200 as
the influential factor. Why not take it out of the eqautions altogether
(For testing) and connect the optical, coaxial AND RCA into the yamaha.
Then do an A vs B vs C comparison using the same
beerbunny;153446 Wrote:
I'm running FLAC through a Squeezebox 2 into a pair of Paradigm
Reference 100 V.2 speakers. I don't understand why I get vastly
different sound depending on my hookup. For good sound I run the SB2
into my Yamaha R-V1105 via the digital optical output. The Yamaha
beerbunny;153446 Wrote:
I'm running FLAC through a Squeezebox 2 into a pair of Paradigm
Reference 100 V.2 speakers. I don't understand why I get vastly
different sound depending on my hookup. For good sound I run the SB2
into my Yamaha R-V1105 via the digital optical output. The Yamaha
beerbunny;153446 Wrote:
I'm running FLAC through a Squeezebox 2 into a pair of Paradigm
Reference 100 V.2 speakers. I don't understand why I get vastly
different sound depending on my hookup. For good sound I run the SB2
into my Yamaha R-V1105 via the digital optical output. The Yamaha
First, I am not using any type of signal processing with the Yamaha -
tone controls neutral and effects off. Secondly, my point is that the
best sound comes only when I use the optical out from the SB2 and the
only way I can do this is through the Yamaha. If I run RCA out, it
doesn't matter
beerbunny;153494 Wrote:
First, I am not using any type of signal processing with the Yamaha -
tone controls neutral and effects off. Secondly, my point is that the
best sound comes only when I use the optical out from the SB2 and the
only way I can do this is through the Yamaha. If I run RCA
beerbunny;153446 Wrote:
I see the transporter as my next step up because I can run balanced
inputs from the transporter directly to my NAD. However, I'm worried
that after I spend the money, I'll get the same washed out bass that
the direct RCA approach is giving me. What am I missing?
The
OK from your observations so far you seem to eliminated the NAD s200 as
the influential factor. Why not take it out of the eqautions altogether
(For testing) and connect the optical, coaxial AND RCA into the yamaha.
Then do an A vs B vs C comparison using the same yammy power amp
components. This
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