[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2007-01-19 Thread 325xi
Interesting, my understanding that Aqvox can hardly be called warm - based on reviews, never had a chance to hear it myself. What would be really interesting is to compare PS to Lavry DA-10. -- 325xi simaudio nova cdp simaudio moon i-5 revel performa m20 via acoustic zen matrix reference

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2007-01-19 Thread USAudio
Another one to check out, the CIAudio VDA-2: http://www.ciaudio.com/vda2.html -- USAudio SB3 - PS Audio Trio C-100 - Revel Concerta F12's USAudio's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8580 View this

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2007-01-18 Thread jmourik
Since Stella was mentioned earlier in this thread... I noticed the Stella DA100 ( http://hifi500.com/product/da100.htm ) is using the AKM 4395 dac chip. What I'm wondering, the Transporter used the AKM 4396 dac, does that mean that the da100 might have a similar sound? The thing looks pretty

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2007-01-18 Thread USAudio
Check out the Digital Link III from PS Audio: http://www.psaudio.com/products/digital_link_iii.asp Apparently they're selling them faster than they can make them. -- USAudio SB3 - PS Audio Trio C-100 - Revel Concerta F12's

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2007-01-18 Thread jt25741
USAudio;171792 Wrote: Check out the Digital Link III from PS Audio: http://www.psaudio.com/products/digital_link_iii.asp Apparently they're selling them faster than they can make them. 325xi has has some similar sounding gear probably(Sim Audio family sound anyways). See sig that reflects my

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-26 Thread 325xi
No, but I found a couple of measurements of SB made by engineers out of their own interest. I didn't save the links, but I'm sure you can find them... -- 325xi 325xi's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-25 Thread 325xi
philodox Wrote: How do you measure that? I'd be interested in measuring the jitter off of both my transports. :) There is one very sophisticated jitter measurement tool, called Google. Try it some time. :) -- 325xi

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-25 Thread philodox
325xi Wrote: There is one very sophisticated jitter measurement tool, called Google. Try it some time. :)Ummm, ok. Are you just pulling jitter measurements from manufacturers websites then? -- philodox box clever, watch your system come together crazy weather at the end of my tether

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-23 Thread philodox
325xi Wrote: SB3 jitter on coax outs measured to be just about 100ps.How do you measure that? I'd be interested in measuring the jitter off of both my transports. :) -- philodox box clever, watch your system come together crazy weather at the end of my tether ::#12427;:: heavily modded

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-22 Thread 325xi
Jenks Wrote: The modified SB2 beats the SB3 simply by having a better tonal balance - the SB3 sounding brighter, whether from the digital outs or the analog outs. Well, if they sound differently, at least one of them distort the signal (more then the other one). In SB digital path the only

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-20 Thread parrydave
Jenks, Your post is the first time I recall anyone reporting such a definite performance boost from a non-professionally modded SB (i.e. non-Bolder/RWA). Nice work! I'm about to mod my own SB3 and was unsure how much improvement I could gain without paying for pro mods. Feel very encouraged

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-17 Thread philodox
Jenks Wrote: Frankly I think you really need to spend more like USD2000 for a DAC to better the modded SB2, amazing as that sounds.I guess that is the magic number? :) FWIW, Dan Lavry says that the Lavry Black sounds about the same as the Lavry Blue. ;) -- philodox box clever, watch

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-17 Thread Lyonesse
Hi How does the Lavry and DAC-AH (and others around that price range) compare to something like the Bel Canto Dac2? Im looking for a dac that can smooth out some of the High frequencies I am experiencing with the SB3. The bel Canto was pretty smooth in my system previously but now with the SB3

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-17 Thread philodox
The Lavry is quite smooth, yet detailed and resolving. I haven't heard the DAC-AH, but it is a NOS design I believe and they sound quite a bit different I hear. -- philodox box clever, watch your system come together crazy weather at the end of my tether ::#12427;:: heavily modded akg k340

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-17 Thread opaqueice
Lyonesse Wrote: How does the Lavry and DAC-AH (and others around that price range) compare to something like the Bel Canto Dac2? I did a careful A/B comparison of the DAC AH and the SB3 internal DAC, using a pre-amp with an input selector. Unfortunately the volume levels were slightly

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-16 Thread philodox
Well if xand1x brings his stello to the meet I am having on the 5th we will be sure to do a shootout. :) -- philodox box clever, watch your system come together crazy weather at the end of my tether ::#12427;:: heavily modded akg k340 xlr out lavry *black* da10 headphone out john grado

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-16 Thread Jenks
I have a modded Zhaolu - all the available mods from Eddie Wu except the clock upgrade, plus I upgraded the internal cabling, changed the connectors and put in a proper IEC receptacle. I also have a SB2 and SB3 that I have modded. The mods in the SB2 are - linear supply with voltage sensing,

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-15 Thread 325xi
Well, somewhere far-far away, on head-fi land someone had a good intention to do Lavry vs. Stello comparison... ;) I guess I have no choice but wait... -- 325xi 325xi's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-12 Thread ezkcdude
Here is some information taken directly from the Stello website (for the DA220 MkII): Supports upto 24Bit/192kHz upsampling - Sampling Rate Selectable: Bypass, 48kHz, 96kHz, 192kHz - True 24Bit Delta-Sigma DAC - Digital De-emphasis - Phase Selection: 0, 180 Degree - On-chip PLL eliminates

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-12 Thread philodox
Though I own the Lavry, I like this little bit about the Stello: Full Balanced Class A Operation Analog Stage -- philodox box clever, watch your system come together crazy weather at the end of my tether ::#12427;:: heavily modded akg k340 xlr out lavry *black* da10 headphone out john

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-11 Thread pkfox
I just paid the $480 , but will probably get a duty bill sometime soon, the other cost was the courier in the UK £28.30 -- pkfox pkfox's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5346 View this thread:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-10 Thread pkfox
Just got my Lite 60 DAC from Hong Kong ( GR-Research ), $480US including shipping to the UK, not bad in my book, never having used a DAC before ( apart from the obvious ) I thought the difference would be minimal at best ( to non_dac_aware_ears ! ), but !, I am very impressed indeed, pretty it

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-10 Thread jampot
PKFox wrote Just got my Lite 60 DAC from Hong Kong ( GR-Research ), Have been very tempted by the Dac 60 - especially with the sonicap mods, and exchenged a couple of emails with GR-Research. If you don't mind saying, how much VAT / duty did you have to pay? Look forward to hearing how it

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-09 Thread Iron_Dreamer
325xi Wrote: Anything known about this DAC here? I have the MkI, and it's my favorite DAC so far (owned DAC1, DA10, Aqvox). The sound was very marginally more to my liking than the Lavry (more a flavor issue than technical betterment), but the build quality is off the chart. I could hit

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-08 Thread BeerCan
Well I picked up an old assemblage 2.7 signature dac. It uses the BB pcm1704 (non delta-sigma) dac chip. It also had opa134 as buffers but I knew I liked ad797 better so I switched them right away. Let me tell you compared to that sceechy Zhaolu this thing is gold. It also is much better

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-06 Thread Skunk
BeerCan Wrote: Cross the Zhaolu 2.0 off your list. I hated it. I was listening to mine yesterday, thinking how much I liked it, but then I realized I was actually listening to the analog outs of the SB. -- Skunk

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-05 Thread philodox
Skunk Wrote: It has balanced outputs, which I'm anxious to try with something.I wouldn't expect much of an improvement with the balanced outputs on the Zhaolu due to the way they have implemented them, but who knows. I haven't heard anyone comment on them yet. Let me know if you do try them

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-05 Thread BeerCan
Cross the Zhaolu 2.0 off your list. I hated it. -- BeerCan BeerCan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3706 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24200

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-06-05 Thread dwc
Somebody should buy Rajacat's Constantine DAC from him. MHDT makes great dacs, and they fit right in the mix of cheap enough to gamble on dacs in this thread. -Dan -- dwc dwc's Profile:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-05-31 Thread 325xi
Anything known about this DAC here? -- 325xi 325xi's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5661 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24200

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-05-25 Thread joncourage
Audio Note is one to consider. 1.1 used is in the benchmark pricerange. -- joncourage SlimServer Version: 6.5b1 - 6939 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252 Player Firmware Version: 41 SB3 Audio Note DAC 3.1x Sig Levinson 383 integrated Amphion Argons

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-05-25 Thread ezkcdude
325xi Wrote: I'm planning integrating a remote PC into my audio system which currently consists of SimAudio i5 integrated, SimAudio Nova CDP and Revel M20 speakers. So I'm almost decided getting SB3 (MediaBox MB200 is the only unit that still holds me) and I'll need a DAC. I'm

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-05-25 Thread ezkcdude
The head-fi'ers were ga-ga over the Zhaolu when it came out. Has the clamor died down somewhat? It's not really all that special, but it is cheap. -- ezkcdude SB3-Derek Shek TDA1543/CS8412 NOS DAC-MIT Terminator 2 interconnects-Endler Audio 24-step Attenuators (RCA-direct)-Parasound Halo A23

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-05-25 Thread Skunk
ezkcdude Wrote: The head-fi'ers were ga-ga over the Zhaolu when it came out. Has the clamor died down somewhat? It's not really all that special, but it is cheap. Yeah, it was a 'flavor of the month'. The 2.0 is out* and as one Headfier put it the hype machine is warming up. I couldn't quite

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-05-25 Thread Jeff Moore
2006-05-25-14:45:45 Skunk: I would still like to buy a non-oversampling DAC for comparison. They're worth a listen. I ordered a stock LiTe DAC-Ah to hear what the fuss was about (it's certainly cheap enough, and seems solidly built for under $200), and I'm glad I did. My internal jury's still

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Dac for SB3 - Benchmark vs. Lavry vs. ...?

2006-05-25 Thread BeerCan
I wanted a cheap dac to play with so I ordered a Zhaolu 2.0 for $162.00. I do not expect it to compete with the truly top end but it should be fun to mod and play with. I have about 6 sets of opamps I am going to demo in it. Personally I would never buy a lite dac. I have read many reports of