[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Very Rough Syste m ££ Balance Regarding Transporter, Power Amp , Speakers

2006-09-30 Thread tyler_durden
The electronics are all of pretty high quality these days unless you go out of your way to find awful stuff. Try this experiment to see what is more important- switch between two CD players in your system and see if you can hear a difference. Now switch between two sets of speakers. The speake

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Very Rough Syste m ££ Balance Regarding Transporter, Power Amp , Speakers

2006-09-30 Thread highdudgeon
Well, the beauty of a device like the Transporter is that you no longer need a line stage (unless you have multiple sources, of course). The best line stage is no line stage. People will argue all sorts of things. But, trust me: most well-built solid state amps these days are all very good. Yo

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Very Rough Syste m ££ Balance Regarding Transporter, Power Amp , Speakers

2006-09-30 Thread khewa
highdudgeon;141228 Wrote: > Really, in the end, it is all about your speakers and your room. > Changes to electronics, given the very high quality of sources (let's > assume quality CD player, SB3, SB3+DAC, or Transporter), the generally > excellent quality of even budget amplifiers, are real, b

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Very Rough Syste m ££ Balance Regarding Transporter, Power Amp , Speakers

2006-09-29 Thread highdudgeon
Really, in the end, it is all about your speakers and your room. Changes to electronics, given the very high quality of sources (let's assume quality CD player, SB3, SB3+DAC, or Transporter), the generally excellent quality of even budget amplifiers, are real, but are not as important as getting

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Very Rough Syste m ££ Balance Regarding Transporter, Power Amp , Speakers

2006-09-29 Thread adamslim
Pat Farrell;141163 Wrote: > Plus all of the $20K++ speakers that I've seen have WAF of too close to > zero for me to consider. I just got my new speakers, and all the wife said was "and you only paid that much for them? Cool" Boy did I marry well :D (although they are not $20k+...) -- adam

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Very Rough Syste m ££ Balance Regarding Transporter, Power Amp , Speakers

2006-09-29 Thread jacobdp
How does this apply to headphones? My Transporter gets here on Monday, and I'm in the process of building a Gilmore Dynahi amp. The next question is, will I see a substantial improvement if I upgrade from my Grado SR-80s to, say, the Sennheiser HD-650? What about something ultra-high-end like a G

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Very Rough Syste m ££ Balance Regarding Transporter, Power Amp , Speakers

2006-09-29 Thread atkinsonrr
My 2 cents (no pence here). I generally agree with Phil and Pat but its important to be precise with language. What I think you are after is to have source, amplification and speakers all commensurate in performance. Otherwise one of these elements is going to act as a bottleneck. Not equal in

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Very Rough Syste m ££ Balance Regarding Transporter, Power Amp , Speakers

2006-09-29 Thread PhilNYC
On a tangent, I've heard a pair of $40K speakers being driven by an iPod and $5K worth of preamp/amp sound worse than a pair of $200 speakers being driven by $40K worth of electronics ($25K of which was the amp)...and a $40K system where each component made up roughly equal parts of the budget sou

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Very Rough Syste m ££ Balance Regarding Transporter, Power Amp , Speakers

2006-09-29 Thread adamslim
Deaf Cat;141053 Wrote: > Just trying to get a rough idea, if I was to spend £1k - £1.2k on a SB+ > / Transporter : > > I guess my £550 power amp may just about do the source justice...? > > and my £300 floorstanders would be the week link. > > Maybe £1.4k on two monos, and £1k on speakers to

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Very Rough Syste m ££ Balance Regarding Transporter, Power Amp , Speakers

2006-09-29 Thread SoftwireEngineer
TCM;141104 Wrote: > In the latest swedish hifi-magazine HiFi & Musik [ > http://www.hifi-musik.se/ ], they test which upgrade will do the most > good for the system. > > They start with a "good" (no names mentioned) approx. 5000 euro system. > Then they try 3 different 1000 euro upgrades: > > 1

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Very Rough Syste m ££ Balance Regarding Transporter, Power Amp , Speakers

2006-09-29 Thread Deaf Cat
errm two schools of thought then: speakers +£ and source +£ Both seem to have there plus points, so not really any defenate route to go down - basically have a play and see what fits best - cool I think at the moment my pre amp is the week link and then DAC, & going by the comments on the d

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Very Rough Syste m ££ Balance Regarding Transporter, Power Amp , Speakers

2006-09-29 Thread TCM
In the latest swedish hifi-magazine HiFi & Musik [ http://www.hifi-musik.se/ ], they test which upgrade will do the most good for the system. They start with a "good" (no names mentioned) approx. 5000 euro system. Then they try 3 different 1000 euro upgrades: 1. speakers 2. amp 3. cd-player The

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Very Rough Syste m ££ Balance Regarding Transporter, Power Amp , Speakers

2006-09-29 Thread bludragon
IMHO, each component affects sound differently: digital sources seem to remove realism and solidity amps seem to add noise, slacken bass speakers add mumble Each stage adds a greater amount of distortion than the last, however the type of distortion goes from less to more tolerable, as it become

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Very Rough Syste m ££ Balance Regarding Transporter, Power Amp , Speakers

2006-09-29 Thread tyler_durden
I am of the opposite persuasion. Sources all sound pretty much the same. Put the money in speakers. They are the components with the most different sound from one model/maker to another, even at the same price level. Don't neglect speaker placement in the room and some acoustic treatment of th

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Re: Very Rough Syste m ££ Balance Regarding Transporter, Power Amp , Speakers

2006-09-29 Thread Fifer
I'd tend to spend most money on the source believing that garbage in equals garbage out. -- Fifer Fifer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=639 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthr