Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slaving Transporter to dCS Delius/Purcell Wordclock

2009-03-07 Thread Blackstone
By the way, by "coherence" I took the previous poster to be referring to dCS's position on the importance of USB and computer audio. It is still unclear to me, for example, whether the USB interface itself offers audio performance that is superior to SPDIF with a synced word clock or merely offers

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slaving Transporter to dCS Delius/Purcell Wordclock

2009-03-07 Thread DAVOSTEVEN
Point taken. Like Apple we will have to change. But like Apple the team is still in place and the knowledge is still there to drive new product development. -- DAVOSTEVEN DAVOSTEVEN's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.co

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slaving Transporter to dCS Delius/Purcell Wordclock

2009-03-06 Thread Blackstone
DAVOSTEVEN;403804 Wrote: > Guys > > I'm not sure how Blackstone's post was relevant to the thread. dCS has > a fully functioning 'Contact Us' facility on their website so rather > than make assumptions about dCS just use it. > > If you had no response to a query from dCS or worse an incohehere

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slaving Transporter to dCS Delius/Purcell Wordclock

2009-03-06 Thread Patrick Dixon
On the other hand -- Patrick Dixon www.at-tunes.co.uk Patrick Dixon's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=90 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=60838 __

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slaving Transporter to dCS Delius/Purcell Wordclock

2009-03-06 Thread DAVOSTEVEN
Guys I'm not sure how Blackstone's post was relevant to the thread. dCS has a fully functioning 'Contact Us' facility on their website so rather than make assumptions about dCS just use it. If you had no response to a query from dCS or worse an incoheherent response then go ahead and post away

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slaving Transporter to dCS Delius/Purcell Wordclock

2009-03-05 Thread Phil Leigh
Patrick Dixon;403537 Wrote: > I reckon we should cut him some slack. He's just lost his father and it > must be a very difficult and sad time. Fair point. I'm sure more than a few of us know what that is like. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slaving Transporter to dCS Delius/Purcell Wordclock

2009-03-05 Thread JezA
DAVOSTEVEN;403311 Wrote: > Blackstone > > You can expect a lot of coherence from dCS! > > The company has been at the forefront of digital audio for 21 years and > will remain so because of the talented people we have in the company and > this collective experience. Having been Head of Marketin

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slaving Transporter to dCS Delius/Purcell Wordclock

2009-03-05 Thread Phil Leigh
DAVOSTEVEN;403311 Wrote: > Blackstone > > > Shame on you for using a forum like this to throw stones at dCS > > David J M Steven > dCS I see no stones being thrown - except by you. If I were you I'd rethink that unwarranted attack on a customer who has probably spent thousands of pounds on y

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slaving Transporter to dCS Delius/Purcell Wordclock

2009-03-05 Thread Patrick Dixon
Blackstone;402336 Wrote: > The specs for the Transporter include the following: > > Jitter (standard deviation): > 11ps at oscillator (intrinsic jitter) > 17ps at DAC > 35ps at S/PDIF receiver > > I am wondering how slaving the Transporter to the dCS combo would > theoretically affect those num

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slaving Transporter to dCS Delius/Purcell Wordclock

2009-03-05 Thread browellm
DAVOSTEVEN;403311 Wrote: > > > Shame on you for using a forum like this to throw stones at dCS > > David J M Steven > dCS eh? That's a bit off the mark methinks. -- browellm Transporter >> Kondo M7 >>Art Audio Quintet, Border Patrol PS >> Living Voice IBX/R2

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slaving Transporter to dCS Delius/Purcell Wordclock

2009-03-05 Thread DAVOSTEVEN
Blackstone You can expect a lot of coherence from dCS! The company has been at the forefront of digital audio for 21 years and will remain so because of the talented people we have in the company and this collective experience. Having been Head of Marketing at dCS for over 1 year now I can say t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slaving Transporter to dCS Delius/Purcell Wordclock

2009-03-03 Thread Blackstone
JezA;402515 Wrote: > Yep they're huge money. I heard a Puccini with and without the clock a > few weeks ago, it was utterly sensational. I suspect they'll be > addressing the computer-audio issue more coherently soon. Unfortunately I'm not sure how much coherence you can expect from dCS in the n

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slaving Transporter to dCS Delius/Purcell Wordclock

2009-03-03 Thread JezA
Blackstone;402467 Wrote: > Yes. Actually the dCS Pucinni U-Clock was the asynchronous USB solution > I was considering but both those solutions are more than I want to > spend. The U-Clock is like $5,000 and the Scarlatti upsampler is like > $12,000. Yep they're huge money. I heard a Puccini wit

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slaving Transporter to dCS Delius/Purcell Wordclock

2009-03-02 Thread Blackstone
JezA;402440 Wrote: > Blackstone - will the dCS Scarlatti upsampler work with your DAC? It has > an asynchronous USB mode which could give you a way of getting music > from your pc to your hifi. > > http://www.dcsltd.co.uk/product/scarlatti-upsampler#tab_overview Yes. Actually the dCS Pucinni U

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slaving Transporter to dCS Delius/Purcell Wordclock

2009-03-02 Thread JezA
Blackstone - will the dCS Scarlatti upsampler work with your DAC? It has an asynchronous USB mode which could give you a way of getting music from your pc to your hifi. http://www.dcsltd.co.uk/product/scarlatti-upsampler#tab_overview -- JezA ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slaving Transporter to dCS Delius/Purcell Wordclock

2009-03-02 Thread Phil Leigh
seanadams;402369 Wrote: > The clock quality of the source device is irrelevant in a word clock > scenario, because the clock is sourced by and confined to the external > DAC. > > To properly leverage Transporter's internal clocks, you would need to > be using Transporter's internal DAC. > > A w

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slaving Transporter to dCS Delius/Purcell Wordclock

2009-03-02 Thread seanadams
fred1322;402362 Wrote: > 1&2 : the sonic improvments depend on the suplly of the digital part of > your system. The better is the supply the less noticeable is the > wordclock. For me the use of a symetric supply for the transporte, the > DAC and the wordclock reduced the benefit of the wordclock

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slaving Transporter to dCS Delius/Purcell Wordclock

2009-03-02 Thread seanadams
Blackstone;402336 Wrote: > The specs for the Transporter include the following: > > Jitter (standard deviation): > 11ps at oscillator (intrinsic jitter) > 17ps at DAC > 35ps at S/PDIF receiver > > I am wondering how slaving the Transporter to the dCS combo would > theoretically affect those num

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slaving Transporter to dCS Delius/Purcell Wordclock

2009-03-02 Thread fred1322
1&2 : the sonic improvments depend on the suplly of the digital part of your system. The better is the supply the less noticeable is the wordclock. For me the use of a symetric supply for the transporte, the DAC and the wordclock reduced the benefit of the wordclock 3 : I did'not have problems wi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slaving Transporter to dCS Delius/Purcell Wordclock

2009-03-02 Thread Phil Leigh
Well, in a clock-linked configuration I would expect the jitter to be determined by the clock in your DAC - so what are those specs? (the cable that transmits the clock from DAC to TP is also part of the equation... but since this can be implemented using properly suitable coax and BNC connectors

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slaving Transporter to dCS Delius/Purcell Wordclock

2009-03-02 Thread Blackstone
The specs for the Transporter include the following: Jitter (standard deviation): 11ps at oscillator (intrinsic jitter) 17ps at DAC 35ps at S/PDIF receiver I am wondering how slaving the Transporter to the dCS combo would theoretically affect those numbers? -- Blackstone -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slaving Transporter to dCS Delius/Purcell Wordclock

2009-03-02 Thread seanadams
Correct, this is the purpose a word clock. It eliminates jitter that would otherwise be introduced by an s/pdif interface. -- seanadams seanadams's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3 View this threa

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Slaving Transporter to dCS Delius/Purcell Wordclock

2009-03-02 Thread Blackstone
I am currently using a Logitech Squeezebox's digital coax output to feed a dCS Delius/Purcell combo 44.1 uncompressed files. I am considering an upgrade to the Transporter (for use as a transport). Setting aside the other reasons for using a Transporter over a Squeezebox for a moment, I would li