Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing of Transporter using Digital Attenuation

2010-05-12 Thread Phil Leigh
gizek;544487 Wrote: Please try balanced configuration and let us know. Still not convinced about that 60Hz and harmonic group spikes existence ;-) Those spikes are the test signals! They are supposed to be there! The Intermod test signal is a 60Hz and 7k pair at -5dB and -17dB respectively

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing of Transporter using Digital Attenuation

2010-05-07 Thread gizek
there are some nasty spikes out there -- gizek Transporter Adcom GFP-750 Monarchy Audio SM-70Pro monoblocks Proac Studio 100; Cardas Neutral Reference all over gizek's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing of Transporter using Digital Attenuation

2010-05-07 Thread Phil Leigh
gizek;544186 Wrote: there are some nasty spikes out there You can ignore the spikes - they are an artifact of the RMAA software -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... Touch(wired/XP) - TACT 2.2X (Linear PSU) +

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing of Transporter using Digital Attenuation

2010-05-07 Thread Phil Leigh
Here is a similar test using RMAA on a Touch with a 16/44.1 RMAA generated test tone file... Note that whilst the Touch is slightly noisier than the TP (but not in a way you can actually hear!) it has less distortion. This is probably showing the difference of the TP PSU vs the Touch and the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing of Transporter using Digital Attenuation

2010-05-07 Thread Phil Leigh
Here is a similar test using RMAA on a Touch with a 16/44.1 RMAA generated test tone file... Note that whilst the Touch is slightly noisier than the TP (but not in a way you can actually hear!) it has less distortion. This is probably showing the difference of the TP PSU vs the Touch and the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing of Transporter using Digital Attenuation

2010-05-07 Thread cliveb
Phil Leigh;544213 Wrote: You can ignore the spikes - they are an artifact of the RMAA software Interesting. The spikes are quite clearly a 60Hz fundamental plus harmonics. My initial assumption was that it is some kind of mains frequency breakthrough. But you say it's to do with the software,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing of Transporter using Digital Attenuation

2010-05-07 Thread Phil Leigh
cliveb;544233 Wrote: Interesting. The spikes are quite clearly a 60Hz fundamental plus harmonics. My initial assumption was that it is some kind of mains frequency breakthrough. But you say it's to do with the software, which confuses me. What possible software issue would create this

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing of Transporter using Digital Attenuation

2010-05-07 Thread mswlogo
Phil Leigh;544219 Wrote: Here is a similar test using RMAA on a Touch with a 16/44.1 RMAA generated test tone file... Note that whilst the Touch is slightly noisier than the TP (but not in a way you can actually hear!) it has less distortion. This is probably showing the difference of the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing of Transporter using Digital Attenuation

2010-05-07 Thread mswlogo
cliveb;544233 Wrote: Interesting. The spikes are quite clearly a 60Hz fundamental plus harmonics. My initial assumption was that it is some kind of mains frequency breakthrough. But you say it's to do with the software, which confuses me. What possible software issue would create this

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing of Transporter using Digital Attenuation

2010-05-07 Thread Phil Leigh
Touch graphs +---+ |Filename: CropperCapture[3].jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9852|

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing of Transporter using Digital Attenuation

2010-05-07 Thread darrenyeats
Phil Leigh;544219 Wrote: Here is a similar test using RMAA on a Touch with a 16/44.1 RMAA generated test tone file... Thanks for this. -- darrenyeats http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/richpub/listmania/byauthor/A3H57URKQB8AQO/ref=cm_pdp_content_listmania/203-7606506-5721503. (Inguz bass EQ'd)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing of Transporter using Digital Attenuation

2010-05-07 Thread darrenyeats
Phil Leigh;544219 Wrote: Here is a similar test using RMAA on a Touch with a 16/44.1 RMAA generated test tone file... Thanks for this. -- darrenyeats http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/richpub/listmania/byauthor/A3H57URKQB8AQO/ref=cm_pdp_content_listmania/203-7606506-5721503. (Inguz bass EQ'd)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing of Transporter using Digital Attenuation

2010-05-07 Thread darrenyeats
mswlogo;544182 Wrote: Enjoy. http://meridianunplugged.com/downloads/ComparisonTransporterDigitalAttenutionTest/Comparison.htm Ah this is what you referred to on the other thread! Thanks. Again, assuming this is accurate, the degradation is very non-linear like with the SB. 2.1db down on the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing of Transporter using Digital Attenuation

2010-05-07 Thread Phil Leigh
darrenyeats;544311 Wrote: Ah this is what you referred to on the other thread! Thanks. Again, assuming this is accurate, the degradation is non-linear like with the SB. 2.1db down on the first 12db of attenuation, then a further 8.1db down on the next 12db of attenuation. Of course much

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing of Transporter using Digital Attenuation

2010-05-07 Thread Phil Leigh
My test of Touch dac repeated at 24/96 +---+ |Filename: CropperCapture[1].jpg| |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9854|

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing of Transporter using Digital Attenuation

2010-05-07 Thread mswlogo
darrenyeats;544311 Wrote: Ah this is what you referred to on the other thread! Thanks. Again, assuming this is accurate, the degradation is non-linear like with the SB. 2.1db down on the first 12db of attenuation, then a further 8.1db down on the next 12db of attenuation. Of course much

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing of Transporter using Digital Attenuation

2010-05-07 Thread darrenyeats
mswlogo;544365 Wrote: I agree. It behaved oddly. That 60hz noise may be causing issues. I plan to run it on balanced. But I need to pickup a cable. Cool. darrenyeats;544311 Wrote: Was a 16 bit signal used for the test? Darren I'm interested in a 16/44 signal, personally. Darren --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing of Transporter using Digital Attenuation

2010-05-07 Thread mswlogo
darrenyeats;544379 Wrote: Cool. I'm interested in a 16/44 signal, personally. Darren It was 16/44. It's in the Report. I will run 24/44 as well. -- mswlogo XP Cat5 Transporter/DuetController SPDIF Meridian G68 DSP6000, DSP5500HC, DSP5000 XP Cat5 SB3 SPDIF Meridian DSP5000 XP

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing of Transporter using Digital Attenuation

2010-05-07 Thread darrenyeats
mswlogo;544381 Wrote: It was 16/44. It's in the Report. I will run 24/44 as well. Do you mean Sampling mode: 16-bit, 44 kHz? I assumed this was the ADC mode, not the digital signal that is input. Darren -- darrenyeats

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing of Transporter using Digital Attenuation

2010-05-07 Thread mswlogo
darrenyeats;544386 Wrote: Do you mean Sampling mode: 16-bit, 44 kHz? I assumed this was the ADC mode, not the digital signal that is input. Darren Live in and Live out. It's both. All testing was Live in and out. There is only one data rate setting Per Action (Record/Play, Record, Play). I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing of Transporter using Digital Attenuation

2010-05-07 Thread gizek
Please try balanced configuration and let us know. Still not convinced about that 60Hz and harmonic group spikes existence ;-) -- gizek Transporter Adcom GFP-750 Monarchy Audio SE-100 monoblocks Proac Studio 100; Cardas Neutral Reference all over

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Testing of Transporter using Digital Attenuation

2010-05-06 Thread mswlogo
Enjoy. http://meridianunplugged.com/downloads/ComparisonTransporterDigitalAttenutionTest/Comparison.htm -- mswlogo XP Cat5 Transporter/DuetController SPDIF Meridian G68 DSP6000, DSP5500HC, DSP5000 XP Cat5 SB3 SPDIF Meridian DSP5000 XP Cat5 DuetReceiver SPDIF Meridian G91