Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder

2008-08-13 Thread Nonreality
See,this is more like it. A bit of conversation. -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder

2008-08-13 Thread Nonreality
Themis;328812 Wrote: Theoretically it could have been possible. In practice, it's not the case. At least, it's not the case with the music I tend to listen to, and it's not the case listening through LAME MP3 320 (even using slow, high quality algorithm) into the rest of my hifi system.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder

2008-08-13 Thread tyler_durden
For some reason, humans, especially those with a lot of money, often confuse the concepts of different and better. It's as if there is an inverse relationship between acquiring money and the ability to apply one's intelligence to anything except acquiring more money. Three of the results of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder

2008-08-13 Thread Themis
Nonreality;328929 Wrote: Or he may like it and not want to change it. I mean that's the whole purpose of a system, to get a sound that you like. Why, if he or she really liked the sound, would that be wrong? That would be like saying a certain speaker sound is wrong. Now I could see your

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder

2008-08-13 Thread opaqueice
tyler_durden;328846 Wrote: If you really want to be shocked, play a recording on your CD player then play the same on a cylinder player. There is NO contest, the cylinder wins hands-down. Are you serious? (It's a little hard to tell with you sometimes.) I heard one of those once, and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder

2008-08-13 Thread Nonreality
tyler_durden;329002 Wrote: For some reason, humans, especially those with a lot of money, often confuse the concepts of different and better. It's as if there is an inverse relationship between acquiring money and the ability to apply one's intelligence to anything except acquiring more

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder

2008-08-12 Thread ralphpnj
Themis;328201 Wrote: Perhaps it's on April's issue of Positive Feedback ? :D Sorry to say that the article appeared in the July/August 2007 issue. Nonreality;328090 Wrote: And off we go! I take your comment to mean that the audiophiles would be all up in arms about over this article. After

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder

2008-08-12 Thread Nonreality
ralphpnj;328524 Wrote: Sorry to say that the article appeared in the July/August 2007 issue. I take your comment to mean that the audiophiles would be all up in arms about over this article. After all the article is filled with transgressions against the standard audiophile dogma:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder

2008-08-12 Thread CatBus
If we accept that a LAME-encoded MP3 can be proven to sound better than the source, then this means the MP3 sounds DIFFERENT than the source. And any case where an MP3 sounds different from the source would be considered a bug by the LAME developers, and they would attempt to fix it. So even if

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder

2008-08-12 Thread RichardL
So if you took the CD, encoded using LAME then convert back to another CD, it sounds better... So if you took that CD, converted to MP3 and back to WAV on CD it gets even better... And on and on and on :-) -- RichardL

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder

2008-08-12 Thread Phil Leigh
connorml;327940 Wrote: Hello, here is an interesting article. http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue32/lame.htm Greetings Connorml yet again, someone fails to distinguish between different and better...and the world turns. Que Sera, Sera. I mean it's blindingly obvious isn't it? -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder

2008-08-12 Thread Nonreality
Ok getting ready to duck. This is just an idea. Could it be possible that of the stuff that Lame throws out is something that we find unpleasant but are not aware of on a conscious level? -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.-

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder

2008-08-12 Thread Themis
Nonreality;328759 Wrote: Ok getting ready to duck. This is just an idea. Could it be possible that of the stuff that Lame throws out is something that we find unpleasant but are not aware of on a conscious level?Theoretically it could have been possible. In practice, it's not the case. At

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder

2008-08-12 Thread tyler_durden
Phil Leigh;328693 Wrote: Bring back wire recorders and wax cylinders? rgh! Now hold on a minute, there! I happen to own an Edison Standard Model B cylinder record player that I rebuilt to full functionality. If you haven't heard one you can't know how pure an experience it is! The

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder

2008-08-12 Thread Wombat
Over here a serious, busy mp3 problem sample finder has made an interesting comment: Quote: For some reason some of sound on the drum snare at 2:54 is gone, giving it a cleaner sound. Which gave me the impression that file B was lossy. http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=65061

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder

2008-08-11 Thread Themis
Perhaps it's on April's issue of Positive Feedback ? :D -- Themis SB3 - Denon 3808 - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus Themis's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14700 View this thread:

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder

2008-08-10 Thread connorml
Hello, here is an interesting article. http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue32/lame.htm Greetings Connorml -- connorml Reduce to the max! Transporter -- Sommer Cable Epilogue (XLR) -- ME-Geithain RL 922k SqueezeCenter 7.2 - 22244 | Firmware: 56

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder

2008-08-10 Thread bpa
Discussed already see http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=36638 -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=50937

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder

2008-08-10 Thread Nonreality
connorml;327940 Wrote: Hello, here is an interesting article. http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue32/lame.htm Greetings ConnormlInteresting reading. I'll have to finish it later but thanks for posting it. Regardless if it had been discussed before, I would never had found it. I'm

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder

2008-08-10 Thread tyler_durden
In the world of high-end audio, being unique and special is what it takes to sell a product or to sell your opinions. The author of the article has found his uniqueness by making claims counter to all logic and to all other wanna-be audiophile gurus that a lossy codec actually improves sound.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder

2008-08-10 Thread Themis
If the author -really- believes what he's claiming, then he should objectively change his listening equipment to something that fits batter his taste. And stop torturing the initial recorded material and wasting our time. ;) -- Themis SB3 - Denon 3808 - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder

2008-08-10 Thread Nonreality
And off we go! -- Nonreality -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The Future Is LAME: The Truth About MP3 ...LAME = Lame ain't an Mp3 Encoder

2008-08-10 Thread Nonreality
tyler_durden;328018 Wrote: In the world of high-end audio, being unique and special is what it takes to sell a product or to sell your opinions. The author of the article has found his uniqueness by making claims counter to all logic and to all other wanna-be audiophile gurus that a lossy