Hi Geoff,
I thought incidents and accidents were reported. At
least those which are reported in the first place.
I am a little ambivilent to them
being published in Soaring Australia other than brief reports and a web
location where people can access a fuller report. I would also suggest that
We happen to have a B57 Super glide computer surplus to needs. So if anyone
wants to put the B50 and B57 together to make a system we're open to offers
for the B57.
Or if someone already has a B50 please make us an offer for the B57.
The cost of the B57 new was $1000.
Mandy and Peter Temple
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Hi guys,
You can add me as a yes to the poll question too. I
think the issue may hinge on how we get these reports
... which is probably closely related to the potential
defamation/liability issues eluded to by ops. Putting
all the gory details in the magazine is probably not
the best idea from a
Richard . ,
To be clear on what I have requested
from the Board, I am not advocating anything gory, nor am I advocating names or
aircraft rego or specific details on location or specific aircraft type. But
what I do say is needed is sufficient description and generic definition of
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GA has been doing this for yearsI don't understand the objectionsOn 01/11/2005, at 9:05 PM, Geoff Kidd wrote: Richard . , To be clear on what I have requested from the Board, I am not advocating anything gory, nor am I advocating names or aircraft rego or specific details on location or s
McLean Richard wrote:
You can add me as a yes to the poll question too. I
think the issue may hinge on how we get these reports
... which is probably closely related to the potential
defamation/liability issues eluded to by ops. Putting
all the gory details in the magazine is probably not
the be
McLean Richard wrote:
I came back to
gliding 6 years ago & have since been alarmed at the
lack of 'safety consciousness' there is in gliding ops
compared to other forms of aviation that I have
experienced (GA & military). I think a large part of
that is due to the fact that we no longer read reg
Mark
You seem to have mastered being a one man debating show
Seems to me your second email was a damn fine rebuttal of your
first. :-)
Cheers
David
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DJ Olsen Photo wrote:
You seem to have mastered being a one man debating show
Seems to me your second email was a damn fine rebuttal of your first. :-)
How? I don't see any inconsistency: Both messages advocate a point
of view which claims that the usefulness of regular publication of
accide
All good points. I think the bottom line is that we
keep killing ourselves in the same consistently boring
ways because these things that kill us (without the
benefit of hindsight) are not often very obvious or
visible at the time. Writing about them makes them
more visible - we can all get complac
McLean Richard wrote:
Writing about them makes them
more visible - we can all get complacent. Pilots may
find it hard to relate the little tidbits he/she does
hear about potential deadly habits or omissions to
their own flying until they actually see /hear of it
happening or read about it. The
I strongly agree with Richard on this issue.
Material presented with the aim of increasing safety is duly digested and stored
away, hopefully increasing ones level of safe behaviour. The crash comics
however seem to have far more bite, the material presented is chillingly real &
often gives on
>Now, think about this: If we can agree that writing about this stuff
is a worthwhile exercise, what's the better investment in effort?
Waiting for an actual accident to happen where someone really gets hurt
and writing about it post-mortem, or making use of the fact that we
already know what th
Don Ingram wrote:
Material presented with the aim of increasing safety is duly digested and
stored away, hopefully increasing ones level of safe behaviour. The crash
comics however seem to have far more bite, the material presented is
chillingly real & often gives one reason to pause and conside
In the FLYING magazine of many years past, there used to be (may still be -
I haven't bought one for years) a column called "I learned about flying from
that ...". The Air Safety Digest runs a similar series, ie, short stories
on "dramas". Some time ago, there was also a thread on aus.aviatio
Mark
You said "But FSA has the resources to do the publication properly, with
more depth, and with analysis from aviation safety experts (instead of what some
people in this thread have advocated, which is producing a few paragraphs of
summary raw data in the mag and making everyone rea
Mark Newton wrote:
Every
pilot bears the responsibility to improve upon that situation.
GFA can't help, CASA can't help, it's a self-regulatory system and
it's all down to us.
Mark
I disagree with you in a number of areas, but we've been over those
before and rehashing them now isn'
Mark Newton wrote:
Now,
think about this: If we can agree that writing about this stuff
is a worthwhile exercise, what's the better investment in effort?
Waiting for an actual accident to happen where someone really gets hurt
and writing about it post-mortem, or making use of the fact
Hi Guys & Gals
Learn from the mistakes of others. You will not
live long enough to make them all yourself!
Cheers
Michael Shirley
- Original Message -
From:
Geoff
Kidd
To: Discussion of issues relating
to Soaring in Australia.
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 10
On Tue, 01 Nov 2005 22:08:53 +1030, Mark Newton wrote:
What are you people really hoping to
>get out of it?
The regular reminder that us pilots have feet of clay, and there by the grace of God
(except perhaps for the AUGC CFI who is better positioned in that hierarchy than the rest o
For the week 24 - 28 October, I was duty instructor for Caboolture
Gliding Club's cross country week at Darling Downs Soaring Club.
Unfortunately the weather was rather uncooperative, even though we flew
every day. Thunder storms were the order of the day - with the storm on
Monday evening bein
I'm a CFI; whenever there is an accident I'm asked what happened. Our members
expect that I should be up to date with the safety situation in our sport,
they're right to do so.
I would like to see a restricted email list introduced wherein current
information regarding very recent accidents ca
I would like to see that expanded to include "incidents" reported to
those instructors
On 02/11/2005, at 2:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm a CFI; whenever there is an accident I'm asked what happened.
Our members expect that I should be up to date with the safety
situation in our spo
I gained the same impression as Dave did! :-)
I read Flight Safety almost in preference to Soaring Australia (SA) as it
has good articles. It used to have precis of all the accidents/incidents
including gliders all of which I used to read religiously. It is a shame
they have ceased them but GFA
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