[Aus-soaring] Narromine

Eleven thousand feet at Nrm today! Keith Dixon and Anne Elliott (GFA Sub-editor Soaring Australia magazine) PO Box 189 Narromine NSW 2821 Australia Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.ourafricansafari.com.au www.vintageglidersaustralia.org.au

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What time did it start and finish. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anne Elliott Sent: Monday, 24 September 2007 6:20 PM To: Aus-soaring Subject: [Aus-soaring] Narromine Eleven thousand feet at Nrm today! Keith Dixon and Anne Elliott (GFA Sub-editor Soarin

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Well done Ian P - Original Message - From: Anne Elliott To: Aus-soaring Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 6:20 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Narromine Eleven thousand feet at Nrm today! Keith Dixon and Anne Elliott (GFA Sub-editor Soaring Australia magazine) PO Box

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That height started between 3 and 4:00pm, prior to that it was about 6000ft midday Keith Dixon and Anne Elliott (GFA Sub-editor Soaring Australia magazine) PO Box 189 Narromine NSW 2821 Australia Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.ourafricansafari.com.au www.vin

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Thanks, It sounds like a great day. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anne Elliott Sent: Monday, 24 September 2007 6:57 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Narromine That height started between 3 and 4:00pm,

Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals

Hi Jeff, just wondering if you could give me Don & Dave's email addresses as I have a question for them regarding the trim system on the Pik20D. I've just started a 30 yearly on my Pik in dad's driveway and the RTO/A Nigel Baker has questioned a (looks like) home made add on trimming system th

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Para 2 - very true! Para 3 - Perceptions, perceptions!! Doest age worry yea? Re the old days, nice to be able to borrow a LS7 but! See you in a few days. Cheers, Gary -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of nandrews Sent: Monday, 24 September 2007

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Ah, climate change - the soaring pilot's friend! Any X/C in the midst of that height? MP. On 24/09/2007, at 6:20 PM, Anne Elliott wrote: Eleven thousand feet at Nrm today! Keith Dixon and Anne Elliott (GFA Sub-editor Soaring Australia magazine) PO Box 189 Narromine NSW 2821 Australia

[Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals

Nigel said I seem to remember Michael Sommer doing pretty well in an SZD55 at Gulgong - against LS8 and alike, was it 2004? 2004 did they have an 18 meter class ? http://www.mals.net/gulgong NO Lucky they had the international pilots to have enough numbers for the comp. Nigel said The glider dose

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Hi Not sure this has much to do with the rest of the conversation but here goes. Any thoughts?? Having a better glider at a comp like JG for instance would be a good advantage. I did some thinking and have worked out a theory its top secret but thats why im telling people. As far as i know the

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At 09:53 PM 24/09/2007, you wrote: >Ah, climate change - the soaring pilot's friend! > >Any X/C in the midst of that height? > >MP. > Ah! Climate change! Is there anything it it isn't responsible for? Better figure out if there is any first. See www.climateaudit.org (breakers of the infamous "ho

Re: [Aus-soaring] Narromine-QLD state comps

Nice to see an early start to the season. Well those intending to come to the State comps and nationals should be in for some good weather, Saturday was a 9,000ft day and Sunday I believe was higher. The downs has dried up nicely and we are getting our transition weather which brings out those

Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals

Would love to make the nationals this year as I like Temora but run out of leave ( Too many comps this year), maybe next time. Nigel And will you be flying your latest and greatest in 18 meter class at the Nationals ? Mal ___ Aus-soaring mailing li

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It's not all about the wing loading (although generally it helps). Having a light glider with feel can count for alot when things are marginal (or when things are good). I.e. spend less time turning if you can feel you way along the best path to get to the next thermal. -Original Message---

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Do you think it's possible that the stretch marks in CK act like the dimples on a golf ball? Regards, - Nick Gilbert - Lotus Notes & Web Developer W :: (08) 8392 2147 F :: (08) 8276 5844 E :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals Stuart & Kerri FERGUSO

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Now that's cruel... - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals > Do you think it's possible that the stretch m

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aerodynamics research

This is an interesting paper. Found while searching for information on Dick Butler's Concordia project http://www.frotor.fs.cvut.cz/doc/37.pdf Check out the aspect ratio of Concordia project. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax

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Hi Mal I checked with the factory last night and was told that the ASG 29 will be shipped back from Omarama (in a purpose built container) together with all other Grand Prix gliders. There is very little chance that I get my hands on it for the Australian Nationals. That's the bad news. The

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Hi all, Errmmm Ash, would that be why the last JG was won by James Dutchke flying an Astir CS77 with only 100kg max of ballast? Not what I would have thought as a latest and greatest glider.(-: Regards Dave L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

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Hi all, Mike, re climate change, give me a break, we have all heard the reality deniers point of view but the bottom line is 99%+ of the worlds climate scientists all agree that climate change is occurring. The evidence provided by the unprecedented opening of a North West passage due to ice mel

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Is there any news on when Dick might have one flying? Looks like the Sinha detubulator is also undergoing some improvements but no mass production as yet Nigel This is an interesting paper. Found while searching for information on Dick Butler's Concordia project http://www.frotor.fs.cvut.cz/d

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At 09:29 AM 25/09/2007, you wrote: >Is there any news on when Dick might have one flying? > >Looks like the Sinha detubulator is also undergoing some improvements but no >mass production as yet > >Nigel > Nope, that was the only thing that I could find. I didn't try very hard though. Mike Borgelt

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Mitchell Preston wrote: > Ah, climate change - the soaring pilot's friend! > Snip Except that if one were a glider pilot in any of the areas in Africa where it's been raining solidly for weeks and people are drowning in the floods - presumably also because of climate ch

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He wasn't asking if it was necessary to have the latest and greatest to win, he was asking if there was an advantage. Regards, - Nick Gilbert - Lotus Notes & Web Developer W :: (08) 8392 2147 F :: (08) 8276 5844 E :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass National

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James didn't win cause he was in an Astir. he won cause he is really good. If he was in a better glider he would have won by a whole lot more - Original Message From: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Tuesday, 25 September, 2007 8

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It appears that announcing yourself as a climate change sceptic is akin to confessing to being a pedophile The whole problem with the climate change issue is that people are seeing an easy way to make money out of it. Carbon trading? What a joke... > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL P

Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals

Hi all I believe the advantage in competitions is almost always with the latest and greatest. The reasons are something like this: Gliders are notoriously difficult to handicap fairly and competitions are almost always held during times where there is likekly to be great conditions. If handicap

[Aus-soaring] Aircraft Plywood Needed

Hi all One for the vintage crowd. AUGC is in need of some 5 ply 1.5 mm plywood (and probably some 5 ply at 1.8 mm too). Australian suppliers seem to have only 3 ply available in 1.5mm and 2.0 mm. If anyone has a stash, or knows of someone who can supply this, please contact me off list. cheers

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Nick said, "He wasn't asking if it was necessary to have the latest and greatest to win, he was asking if there was an advantage" Oh gee was he really? I would have thought the winner using an older relatively low performance glider would be most relevant to show that it was no great advantage

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Absolutely, conditions of the individual day make the difference - especially when it comes to pushing wind as we well know with our machines Anthony! -Original Message- From: "Anthony Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." Date: Tue, 2

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Derek Ruddock wrote: > It appears that announcing yourself as a climate change sceptic is akin > to confessing to being a pedophile > The whole problem with the climate change issue is that people are > seeing an easy way to make money out of it. Carbon trading? What a > joke... The carbon tradi

Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals

First of all, Dave, why the sarcasm? It appeared to me that you had overlooked something, and I pointed it out. James would have won the comp on a hangar door - he literally had a disadvantage, but was good enough to overcome it. The disadvantage / advantage in choice of aircraft is not insigni

Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals

Hi all Good pilots will do well no matter what they fly. However for less experienced pilots I feel that modern machinery has an edge. That is because they are more forgiving. Older gliders can be made to perform well with experience but aren't tolerant of sloppy flying. For example I flew a D

Re: [Aus-soaring] Aircraft Plywood Needed

I'll have a look for you tomorrow and be in touch. Ian P - Original Message - From: "Anthony Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 11:04 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Aircraft Plywood Needed > Hi all > > On

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Sorry, How much ? - Original Message - From: "Anthony Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2007 11:04 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Aircraft Plywood Needed > Hi all > > One for the vintage crowd. > > AUGC is in

[Aus-soaring] NARROMINE

Narromine went to 7300 on Saturday Sunday 4500 I flew from Temora to Narromine on the Sunday in a Duo country side looking much greener. Beryl is currently in Gilgandra with our latest purchase VH:GKC WELCOME TO THE NARROMINE AIR PAGEANT & EVOLUTION OF FLIGHT FESTIVAL 2007! O

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Hi all, My apologies if I offended Nick, I guess I was surprised that you thought it necessary to state something so blatantly obvious. Sarcasm, It's the Doug Piranha influence (-: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piranha_Brothers The original poster, Ash's concern to which I was responding, wa

Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliders wanted for MultiClass Nationals

My observation is twofold. I agree with Phil's synopsis, an easy glider to fly is a better mount for less experienced pilots, and the more expereinced just wish they had the easier glider to fly, but get away with it. For a low experience pilot they can probably achieve 80kph whether in the Ci