Re: [Aus-soaring] Start procedures-defacto start height

2008-05-29 Thread Nigel Andrews
If you fly the State comps from DDSC, they have a defacto max start height anyway - called Oakey airspace, usually 7,000ft Nig Mark Said: "Hey, how about team flying, that would be a great idea?? It might become fun again also." I say, hear hear (or here here!)! But then again, it

Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA, marketing and democracy in the GFA

2008-05-29 Thread Phil McCann
Outstanding, Robert! Best, most succinct summing up of the problem, ever. Cheers Phil Robert Hart wrote: Mike Borgelt wrote: People like Jenny and Robert Hart and others who "don't have problem with all this" will never be able to understand or fix the problem. Good grief, M

Re: [Aus-soaring] Start procedures

2008-05-29 Thread Adam Woolley
Mark Said: "Hey, how about team flying, that would be a great idea?? It might become fun again also." I say, hear hear (or here here!)! But then again, it's not much fun for the people who don't know how to effictively team fly... Is leaching allowed everyday though!! haha :) My thoug

Re: [Aus-soaring] Start procedures

2008-05-29 Thread Bruce Taylor
Hi Ross, I apologise if I have spoken out of turn, but I was under the impression that this start rule change was already in situ - you sent me a "draft" copy for the new operation guide, so does this mean that we are far from setting all of this in concrete? It feels to most of us, including m

Re: [Aus-soaring] Special Request - Work Experience

2008-05-29 Thread D S Baker
So, a huge thanks to every who replied both on and off list. I now have a nice list of people / places I can contact (either on her behalf, or get her to contact them herself). Anyway, I'm very grateful for this, and will let you all know how she goes Dion Baker -- you know what i hate errors

Re: [Aus-soaring] Start procedures

2008-05-29 Thread Kevin Roden
At least one start line drama over a start line. Mid-air at Leeton about 1983. Back when we were required to cross the start line under 3280 feet. 2 gliders approaching start line. One at or near Vne, one somewhat slower. Faster one took off the slower gliders tail. Both pilots are still around t

Re: [Aus-soaring] Start procedures

2008-05-29 Thread Mark Rowe
Ross, Yup thats the way it works, please be mindfull of the personalities and drivers behind the change within that group of elected individuals. Personally i see it as no big deal as long as a designated start line is used rather than the beer can (ala GP starts). The thought of GP starts ov

Re: [Aus-soaring] Gliding Sim Update

2008-05-29 Thread Patching
Go man, it looks fantastic. Well done and it just shows that if you want something so bad then just effing do it!! Bravo Tom. Best wishes Ian Patching. - Original Message - From: "Tom Wilksch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." Sent: Wedne

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Start procedures

2008-05-29 Thread Glenn McLean
Hi Bruce, Having used this start gate, and the start box system over many years at comps (mainly inter-service), I was glad to see this dangerous and unproductive practice eliminated. I am amazed that it has crept back into the system. The remote multiple start point system has been totally suc

Re: [Aus-soaring] Start procedures

2008-05-29 Thread Robert Hart
Jo Davis wrote: I agree it is a change that brings unnecessary risk to an already high workload situation, when ideally the focus is on looking out. Aside from agreeing at the pilots meeting that it would bring in unnecesary complication when the workload is already high, the general consens

Re: [Aus-soaring] Start procedures

2008-05-29 Thread Ross McLean
Jim If you go to the following link on the GFA website you will find the current set of rules, V1.53 August 2007. http://www.gfa.org.au/index.php?option=com_content &task=view&id=393&Itemid=184 The three pilots

Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA, marketing and democracy in the GFA

2008-05-29 Thread Robert Hart
Mike Borgelt wrote: People like Jenny and Robert Hart and others who "don't have problem with all this" will never be able to understand or fix the problem. Good grief, Mike If you think that I "don't have a problem" with the way the GFA is run, then you have truly been reading what I have w

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Re: [Aus-soaring] Start procedures

2008-05-29 Thread Jo Davis
> > Hi Bruce > I agree it is a change that brings unnecessary risk to an already high workload situation, when ideally the focus is on looking out. Aside from agreeing at the pilots meeting that it would bring in unnecesary complication when the workload is already high, the general consensus wa

Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA, marketing and democracy in the GFA

2008-05-29 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 07:50 PM 29/05/2008, you wrote: On Wed, 28 May 2008 11:08:36 +1000, Jenny Ganderton wrote: >For those of us that are hooked on gliding, we don't have a problem >with any of this - but how do you get people hooked? >All positive suggestions welcomed! >Jenny Yes Jenny, even some who are hooked

[Aus-soaring] training and coaching aid

2008-05-29 Thread erich wittstock
Another tool to check what you (or someone else) did. Yes, SeeYou is one of the best tools for flight analysis. IGC-Replay gives you a different perspective (cockpit view) and is free (although donations are welcomed) works with google earth 4.2, 4.3 onwards http://ywtw.de/igcsimen.html Erich __

Re: [Aus-soaring] Start procedures

2008-05-29 Thread james crowhurst
Bruce, I hear the same rumour. I went to the GFA website and found only the 2001 rules and so cannot substantiate this change in the rules. I agree that this rule can work if a start line is introduced. used it for years whilst flying in the rain in Pommy land. Seemed ok then but there is inc

Re: [Aus-soaring] A good landing

2008-05-29 Thread Rob and Anne
Sorry to say, no birch trees anywhere near the Bendigo Gliding Club that I know of, let alone any inadvertent landings recently. Rob Young, Bendigo Gliding Club (in Northern Victoria, Australia) ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on

Re: [Aus-soaring] A good landing

2008-05-29 Thread rquinn
And he crashed into an aviation plywood tree. Ah so he came from the Bendigo flying club. Using Google translate NEW VERSION KL 14.30. A glider crashed in the northern parts of the county yesterday afternoon. Plane was broken and was hanging in a birch. The pilot walk away with a sma

[Aus-soaring] Start procedures

2008-05-29 Thread Bruce Taylor
Just wondering if there is general knowledge of the new start procedures for Aussie nationals? I first heard of it last w/e at Kingaroy. Seems we will be both height and speed limited - obviously one must not be implemented without the other, and all this with the same style of "beer can" start

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2008-05-29 Thread Bob Jenneson
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[Aus-soaring] Glasflügel Hornet 206 ???

2008-05-29 Thread Ben Jones
Hello all, Does any one know where I can lay my hands on a electronic copy of any flight/service/maint manuals for the hornet. Regards Ben ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit:

Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA, marketing and democracy in the GFA

2008-05-29 Thread Emilis Prelgauskas
On Wed, 28 May 2008 11:08:36 +1000, Jenny Ganderton wrote: >For those of us that are hooked on gliding, we don't have a problem >with any of this - but how do you get people hooked? >All positive suggestions welcomed! >Jenny Yes Jenny, even some who are hooked on this (for much longer and much d

Re: [Aus-soaring] A good landing

2008-05-29 Thread Mats Henrikson
It's a decent translation, not sure where the Bendigo came from though... ;) Some words that weren't translated: segelflygtävling = sailplane competition smällde = loud crash Poor transaltions: finnish carts = the glider was Finnish landing on the measure = outlandings on fields encounter any s

Re: [Aus-soaring] A good landing

2008-05-29 Thread Phil McCann
I have referred this to the Bendigo Flying Club to see why they are poaching our territory. :-) Phil McCann Bendigo Gliding Club Nigel Andrews wrote: Ah so he came from the Bendigo flying club. Using Google translate NEW VERSION KL 14.30. A glider crashed in the northern part

Re: [Aus-soaring] A good landing

2008-05-29 Thread Nigel Andrews
Ah so he came from the Bendigo flying club. Using Google translate NEW VERSION KL 14.30. A glider crashed in the northern parts of the county yesterday afternoon. Plane was broken and was hanging in a birch. The pilot walk away with a small wound on a finger. It was a participant in