[Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please...

2006-11-07 Thread Mitchell Preston
Groutings forum, I'm toying with the notion of buying a GPS unit; budget around $500. What makes and models may be recommended by your good selves? Sandshoe fairy mulch, Mitch Preston. ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on

[Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please

2006-11-08 Thread Mal
Mitch - there is no shortage of advice here, but has anyone answered your question? FLARM and Conflict avoidance equipment. It would appear that many in the gliding community have come to the conclusion that FLARM is the answer to in flight collision avoidance, but is it? But let's not get too

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2006-11-07 Thread Tom Wilksch
If its just for soaring, a PDA with GPS pluggin running XCsoar or Mobile SeeYou Tom - Original Message - From: "Mitchell Preston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 8:31 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please... Groutings fo

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2006-11-07 Thread Ross McLean
] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitchell Preston Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 9:02 PM To: Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please... Groutings forum, I'm toying with the notion of buying

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2006-11-07 Thread Richard Hoskings
rds, R. Richard Hoskings DDSC +61 7 3377 6700 m 0418 745 824 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitchell Preston Sent: Tuesday, 7 November 2006 8:02 PM To: Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] GPS u

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2006-11-07 Thread David Lawley
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Hoskings Sent: Wednesday, 8 November 2006 9:29 AM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please... A few of us at our club have

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2006-11-07 Thread AJ Wesley
8:22 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please... If its just for soaring, a PDA with GPS pluggin running XCsoar or Mobile SeeYou Tom - Original Message - From: "Mitchell Preston" <[EMAIL PROTECTE

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2006-11-07 Thread vhgnj
, 8 Nov 2006 9:28 AM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please... If the glider is already fitted with OzFlarm, its GPS and its barometric sensor output works well with XCSoar on a PDA. No need for a GPS plugin for the PDA. A.J. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

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2006-11-07 Thread Tom Wilksch
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please... If you choose the blue tooth option be sure to always clear running programs. Blue tooth wants active sync and that slows the connection down to never sometimes.    GH   -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To

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2006-11-07 Thread Nicholas . Gilbert
respond to "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." To aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net cc Subject Re: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please... If you choose the blue tooth option be sure to always clear running programs. Blue tooth wants active sync and that

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2006-11-07 Thread Derek Ruddock
] > Sent: Wednesday, 8 November 2006 10:51 AM > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please... > > I think the better option is the CompactFlash sleeve with the CompactFlash > GPS. I use one with Winpilot on my Ip

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2006-11-07 Thread Robert Hart
Mitchell Preston wrote: I'm toying with the notion of buying a GPS unit; budget around $500. What makes and models may be recommended by your good selves? I suggest that you consider a FLARM plus an iPaq running mSeeYou. This will not only provide you with an in cockpit GPS system, with final g

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2006-11-07 Thread J Hudson
Can someone give me an email address for the Collibri agent. Best wishes, John Hudson ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soa

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2006-11-07 Thread David Lawley
Hart Sent: Wednesday, 8 November 2006 12:10 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please... Mitchell Preston wrote: > I'm toying with the notion of buying a GPS unit; budget around $500. > What makes and models may b

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2006-11-07 Thread Chris
9:50 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please... Can someone give me an email address for the Collibri agent. Best wishes, John Hudson ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscri

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2006-11-07 Thread Scott Penrose
Some excellent advice here David, except: On 08/11/2006, at 13:11, David Lawley wrote: A flarm alone will blow your budget, without PDA etc, and is next to useless for collision avoidance unless ALL other gliders have one. They are easily fitted with Velcro to the top of instrument panels if

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2006-11-07 Thread David Lawley
kout! Regards Dave L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Penrose Sent: Wednesday, 8 November 2006 1:35 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please... Some excell

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2006-11-07 Thread nandrews
t continue to keep a good lookout! Regards Dave L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Penrose Sent: Wednesday, 8 November 2006 1:35 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GPS units -

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2006-11-07 Thread Philip Ritchie
7;Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'" Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 3:02 PM Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please... "once you have 2 gliders with FLARM" Agreed Scott, however here in SA there are very few FLARMS I know of (in

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2006-11-07 Thread Richard Neale
. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please... Adelaide Soaring Club in SA now has all club gliders fitted with FLARM and is in the process of installing them in the tugs. Most of the money for them was raised by asking for donations from club members. There are 5 private gliders that also

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2006-11-07 Thread cubley
t: Wednesday, 8 November 2006 1:35 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please... Some excellent advice here David, except: On 08/11/2006, at 13:11, David Lawley wrote: A flarm alone will blow your budget, without PDA etc, a

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2006-11-07 Thread Alan Wilson
ned for it most glider battery problems would be solved. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitchell Preston Sent: Tuesday, 7 November 2006 9:02 PM To: Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please...

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2006-11-08 Thread Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON
EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Philip Ritchie Sent: Wednesday, 8 November 2006 4:52 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please... Adelaide Soaring Club in SA now has all club gliders fitted with FLARM and is in the proce

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2006-11-08 Thread Mark Newton
Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON wrote: But let's not get too excited, only 300 gliders or approx 30% of the Australian glider fleet has been fitted. If that's true, then it's pretty amazing after, oh, I dunno, about a year. Can you think of anything else that's penetrated that far through the gliding

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2006-11-08 Thread Scott Penrose
On 08/11/2006, at 15:32, David Lawley wrote: If FLARM were to have an IGC approved logger it would really make it very worthwhile to buy though-is this possible? Unfortunately due to the huge expense in getting approval this is not going to happen - and it would put the price of the FL

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2006-11-08 Thread Scott Penrose
I think it will happen one day - I think it is inevitable. But I also think it is 20 years away. That might be pessimistic, but in other ways it is also very optimistic :-) FLARM has not been around long enough to have statistics to prove the safety - therefore it is all predictions. It is

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2006-11-08 Thread Dennis Hipperson
with 24 volts, and instrument power supplies were designed for it most glider battery problems would be solved. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mitchell Preston Sent: Tuesday, 7 November 2006 9:02 PM To: Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.n

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2006-11-08 Thread Matthew Gage
mber 2006 10:11 > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please... > > I think it will happen one day - I think it is inevitable. > But I also think it is 20 years away. That might be > pessimistic, but in other w

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2006-11-09 Thread Robert Hart
David Lawley wrote: A flarm alone will blow your budget, without PDA etc, and is next to useless for collision avoidance unless ALL other gliders have one. They are easily fitted with Velcro to the top of instrument panels if a temporary setup in a club ship is required (Plenty of this happened a

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2006-11-09 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 09:00 AM 10/11/2006, you wrote: Wrt to issue of GPS vs barometric altitude and driving things like mSeeYou's final glide calcs and varion, there is no problem in principal. However, the stability of altitude from a barometric unit is very significantly higher than that provided by 'GPS al

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2006-11-10 Thread Simon Hackett
On 08/11/2006, at 4:22 PM, Philip Ritchie wrote: Funny story - A pilot brought one over from WA to the last Nationals and only then found out it wasn't working properly as there was no other FLARM in WA to link up with. Sort of sad and lonely really. Honestly, that story isn't sad and l

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2006-11-10 Thread Jim Kelly
11:53 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please... At 09:00 AM 10/11/2006, you wrote: >Wrt to issue of GPS vs barometric altitude and driving things >like >mSeeYou's final glide calcs and varion, there is no problem in >principal. However, the stability of

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2006-11-10 Thread Luke Dodd
From: "Simon Hackett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 11:21 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please... > On 08/11/2006, at 4:22 PM, Philip Ritchie wrote: > > >

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2006-11-10 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 07:12 AM 11/11/2006, you wrote: Mike, Are the newer Sirf-III GPS units any better for gliding in these regards?? Thanks, Jim Kelly Jim, The 12 channel Garmin is actually pretty good. There are better units than the Sirf III chip which in the implementation I've seen is optimised for ca

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2006-11-11 Thread Robert Hart
Simon Hackett wrote: Honestly, that story isn't sad and lonely, its mildly frightening. In particular, it highlights that you can mandate at a comp that everyone has a FLARM unit, but you (obviously) can't mandate that they all work - i.e. we've all still got to remember these things (like ou

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2006-11-12 Thread Derek Ruddock
Wilson > Sent: Saturday, 11 November 2006 2:21 PM > To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' > Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please... Medion PNA > 500Texperience? > > > Has anyone got any experience with the Medion PNA 500T GPS P

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2006-11-10 Thread Alan Wilson
relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GPS units - opinions please... At 07:12 AM 11/11/2006, you wrote: >Mike, > >Are the newer Sirf-III GPS units any better for gliding in these >regards?? > >Thanks, > >Jim Kelly Jim, The 12 channel Garmin is actuall