Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk

2012-05-02 Thread JR
It would appear that you are lost for words Rob. Cheers JR___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring

Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk

2012-04-30 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 03:14 PM 30/04/2012, you wrote: John, It sounds like your FLARM or its antenna is defective. This is very easy and free to verify, by uploading a FLARM IGC log to the online range analysis: http://www.flarm.com/support/analyze/index_en.html or simply email it to me and I will take care of it.

Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk

2012-04-30 Thread Sean Jorgensen-Day
: Sunday, 29 April 2012 9:36 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk Sean, With respect, I posit that you totally miss PS 's point. What he is suggesting is that EVERY recreational aircraft (GA, RAAus, Gliding), be fitted with flarm

Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk

2012-04-30 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 07:13 PM 30/04/2012, you wrote: My argument is that these devices COULD prevent a collision but cannot be relied on to ENSURE it does not happen, that is up to the pilots. How many examples are there out there of aircraft colliding when fitted with such devices, in these

Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk

2012-04-30 Thread Peter Stephenson (Internode)
On 30/04/2012 12:02 PM, john.mcfarlane wrote: snip Upon landing I mentioned this to the relevant instructor. After all had landed without leading I asked the glider pilots if around the time of the launch their flarms had advised them of anything - All I got was the passenger thought the

Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk

2012-04-30 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 08:42 PM 30/04/2012, you wrote: BTW Flarm can even synthesise tracks of adjacent gliders from other glider's Flarms should one crash; another benefit of having a Flarm. Only if the range happens to be good enough which clearly may not be the case as in the case John is talking about.

Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk

2012-04-30 Thread john.mcfarlane
Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Urs Rothacher Sent: Monday, 30 April 2012 2:44 PM To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk John

Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk

2012-04-30 Thread Peter Stephenson (Internode)
On 30/04/2012 8:56 PM, john.mcfarlane wrote: Hi Urs, How do you explain the other 2 aircraft - the on tow glider was only 120ft behind me and had no idea of the other glider. This is a club aircraft - downloading and uploading files for remote post event review/analysis to determine

Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk

2012-04-30 Thread john.mcfarlane
2012 8:12 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk On 30/04/2012 12:02 PM, john.mcfarlane wrote: snip Upon landing I mentioned this to the relevant instructor. After all had landed without leading I asked the glider pilots

Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk

2012-04-30 Thread Rob Moore
-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Peter Stephenson (Internode) Sent: Monday, 30 April 2012 8:12 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk On 30/04/2012 12:02 PM

Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk

2012-04-29 Thread Peter Stephenson (Internode)
Having been involved with two near hits in the last 10 years, both of which would have been prevented by a Flarm, it seems bloody stupid not have a 750 Euro unit not installed in *every* aircraft. PeterS On 22/04/2012 12:29 PM, S Smith wrote: Greetings If you look in the following database,

Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk

2012-04-29 Thread Sean Jorgensen-Day
April 2012 5:48 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk Having been involved with two near hits in the last 10 years, both of which would have been prevented by a Flarm, it seems bloody stupid not have a 750 Euro unit not installed in *every* aircraft

Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk

2012-04-29 Thread gstevo10
) p...@internode.on.net To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk Having been involved with two near hits in the last 10 years, both of which would have been prevented by a Flarm, it seems bloody stupid not have

Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk

2012-04-29 Thread gstevo10
to Soaring in Australia.' aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2012 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk Replace Would with Could and I'll agree with you. I seem to remember that one person on this list decided that they would be safer if they fitted a flarm

Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk

2012-04-29 Thread Peter Stephenson (Internode)
On 29/04/2012 9:22 PM, gstev...@bigpond.com wrote: Peter, I think you have got to the nub of it, but I am somewhat surprised that you feel it necessary to bring this topic up again. Because I have been stewing on my reply. Whilst Stu's figures are no doubt valid for actual strikes, the

Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk

2012-04-29 Thread Mike Borgelt
@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk Having been involved with two near hits in the last 10 years, both of which would have been prevented by a Flarm, it seems bloody stupid not have a 750 Euro unit not installed in *every* aircraft. PeterS On 22/04/2012 12:29 PM, S

Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk

2012-04-29 Thread john.mcfarlane
(Internode) Sent: Sunday, 29 April 2012 5:48 PM To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk Having been involved with two near hits in the last 10 years, both of which would have been prevented by a Flarm, it seems bloody stupid not have a 750 Euro unit

Re: [Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk

2012-04-29 Thread Urs Rothacher
John, It sounds like your FLARM or its antenna is defective. This is very easy and free to verify, by uploading a FLARM IGC log to the online range analysis: http://www.flarm.com/support/analyze/index_en.html or simply email it to me and I will take care of it. Mike, This is the second time you

[Aus-soaring] Mid Air collision risk

2012-04-21 Thread S Smith
Greetings If you look in the following database, http://aviation-safety.net/index.php which is a wiki and lists aircraft crashes around the world back to 1920's you will find very very very very few mid-airs. So far this year, for 896 recorded accidents there are the following only; 3 -