[Aus-soaring] Wing Signals

2010-05-27 Thread Texler, Michael
>Isn't radio just the least unreliable method? Radios are more likely to fail than controls, I would trust my control linkages more than the radio. >Wing waggling at speeds close to the stall is likely to cause more exciting problems than a dud radio. I certainly hope no-one has let their spee

Re: [Aus-soaring] Wing Signals

2010-05-27 Thread Dave Donald
12:57:55 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Wing Signals >Isn't radio just the least unreliable method? Radios are more likely to fail than controls, I would trust my control linkages more than the radio. >Wing waggling at speeds close to the stall is likely to cause more exciting problems than

Re: [Aus-soaring] Wing Signals

2010-05-27 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 01:29 PM 28/05/2010, you wrote: Thanks Michael, particularly with respect to the speed and lowering the nose. If only ever this lesson was learned, then accidents/incidents would drop dramatically. At Harry's suggestion I cruised the BGA Safe Winch Site and looked at the simulations

Re: [Aus-soaring] Wing Signals

2010-05-27 Thread Michael Shirley
Mike Borgelt Sent: Friday, 28 May 2010 2:22 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Wing Signals At 01:29 PM 28/05/2010, you wrote: >Thanks Michael, particularly with respect to the speed and lowering >the nose. If only ever this lesson

Re: [Aus-soaring] Wing Signals

2010-05-27 Thread DMcD
>I certainly hope no-one has let their speed drop that far and remained >on the wire. They probably didn't remain on the wire. They probably stall/spinned off it :-( The BGA says this: A glider with a 1g stalling speed of 34kt is likely to stall during rotation at about 50kt if the rotation rat

Re: [Aus-soaring] Wing Signals

2010-05-27 Thread Terry Neumann
Michael Shirley wrote: And according to BGA winching in the UK is 7 times more dangerous than aerotow - from memory that's 7 times as many deaths as from aero towing. Michael As a innocent bystander, whose club uses winch launching, I think both of these statements really require further devel

Re: [Aus-soaring] Wing Signals

2010-05-27 Thread Kenneth Jason Caldwell
On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 14:22 +1000, Mike Borgelt wrote: > Stalling has nothing to do with speed and everything to do with angle > of attack which is controlled by the pilot by where he puts the stick > in the fore and aft sense. > When that sinks in to everyone including instructors we might get

Re: [Aus-soaring] Wing Signals

2010-05-27 Thread Michael Shirley
aring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Terry Neumann Sent: Friday, 28 May 2010 3:56 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Wing Signals Michael Shirley wrote: And according to BGA winching in the UK is 7 times more dangerous than aerotow - f

Re: [Aus-soaring] Wing Signals

2010-05-28 Thread Kenneth Jason Caldwell
On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 15:26 +0930, Terry Neumann wrote: > Michael Shirley wrote: > > And according to BGA winching in the UK is 7 times more dangerous than > > aerotow - from memory that's 7 times as many deaths as from aero towing. > > Michael > > As a innocent bystander, whose club uses winch l

Re: [Aus-soaring] Wing Signals

2010-05-28 Thread Dion Weston
Thanks Kenneth That doc makes for pretty salutary reading. On 28/05/2010, at 16:56 , Kenneth Jason Caldwell wrote: On Fri, 2010-05-28 at 15:26 +0930, Terry Neumann wrote: Michael Shirley wrote: And according to BGA winching in the UK is 7 times more dangerous than aerotow - from memory that

Re: [Aus-soaring] Wing Signals

2010-05-29 Thread Ian Mc Phee
Totally agree about 6 seconds for speed to build up but disagree about radio reliability. In this day and age there is zero reason a radio in the glider should not be as reliable as the home TV, the car radio of the wifi in the house. I often operate in controlled airspace (D and C) and never a pr

Re: [Aus-soaring] Wing Signals

2010-05-29 Thread Ian Mc Phee
Opps I think it was Sir Charles Kingsford Smith said "the only hard thing about flying is the ground" and there is another good one "straight ahead to the hospital, left or right to the cemetery" Keep those in mind when faced with quick & difficult flying decisions IM ___

Re: [Aus-soaring] Wing Signals

2010-05-29 Thread Tim Shirley
a. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Wing Signals Opps I think it was Sir Charles Kingsford Smith said "the only hard thing about flying is the ground" and there is another good one "straight ahead to the hospital, left or right to the cemetery" Keep those in mind when faced