Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] related in the second degree

2013-05-24 Thread Yukonangels
I keep reading about cousins marring, but are there any recorded uncle and niece marriage. I know this happened, at least in my family. I could not believe it when I first found this. My great grandfather, gave his daughter to his brother when she was 18. I thought it was odd that her maiden

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] related in the second degree

2013-05-24 Thread Shirl Sereque
I have a grandfather marrying his granddaughter.  It was in the 1880s and did surprise me! - Shirl - From: yukonang...@aol.com yukonang...@aol.com To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 9:42 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] related in the

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] related in the second degree

2013-05-24 Thread pico
Yukon,I have seen it many, many times to have an uncle/niece marriage.They call that related in the 1st and 2nd degree of consanguinity.However, often it's when they are too old to have children. I'll have to check on that.I have never seen a grandfather marrying a granddaughter, like Shirl.I

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] related in the second degree

2013-05-24 Thread Cheri Mello
I know Eloise Cadinha has found an uncle/niece or aunt/nephew marriage. I can't remember which. 1st degree of consanguinity: Uncle/niece or aunt/nephew marriage. Rare. 2nd degree of consanguinity: 1st cousins marrying. 3rd degree of consanguinity: 2nd cousins marrying. 4th degree of

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] related in the second degree

2013-05-24 Thread pico
Cheri,1st degree of consanguinity: Uncle/niece or aunt/nephew marriage. Rare.This is called 1st and 2nd degree.First degree would never be allowed, because that's siblings marrying each other - except in Eastern Kentucky... :-)I have one where he married his mother-in-law. They had no children.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] related in the second degree

2013-05-24 Thread John Vasconcelos
*I have a nephew-aunt marriage in my family tree. One of my great great grand fathers married an aunt about 20 years older than he was (for inheritance reasons I would bet). I would really like to know the story behind that. After he died he married my great great grandmother. * *John Vasconcelos

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] related in the second degree

2013-05-24 Thread John Raposo
Rodrigo Rodrigues has several examples of marriages between aunts/nephews and uncles/nieces. Most of these were probably dynastic marriages, e.g., to consolidate fortunes/estates or to keep from dividing an estate. I have never seen a marriage in the first degree the marriage of a brother to

[AZORES-Genealogy] Thamos (spelling?)

2013-05-24 Thread Shirley Allegre
Does anyone know where I can buy TRAMOS? The dried Lupini Beans? I live in Northern California, I also shop a lot in Reno, NV. Shirley in CA -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Thamos (spelling?)

2013-05-24 Thread rcapodc
Shirley, My Mom used to stop at the Nut Tree in Vacaville and pick them up. That was years ago but you might call them (if the Nut Tree is still there!). Rosemarie From: Shirley Allegre Sent: Friday, May 24, 2013 3:23 PM To: Azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Thamos

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Thamos (spelling?)

2013-05-24 Thread Cheri Mello
Shirley A, In Portuguese, it's tremoço. In Italian, it's lupini beans. I think it's just the lupin bean in English. When you are in Reno, go down the International Foods aisle at the supermarket (if they have one) and look for Lupini beans. That's how I find them in Torrance (southern Los

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Manuel Teixeira and Emilia Rosa de Medeiros - Ponta Delagda

2013-05-24 Thread bsei2816
Hello Cousin Neil, This is Bill Seidler in California and I am a great gandson of Felicidade Teixeira and her husband Ventura Pacheco Demello. I am interested in finding out more about the children of Manuel Bernardo Teixera who is apparently a GG Grandfather to both you and I? This is

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Thamos (spelling?)

2013-05-24 Thread Veronica Perry
Hi Shirley!   Neto's Sausage and Grill in Santa Clara CA did carry the dried Lupini beans and the ones in jars.  They have do have on line ordering.  You can try them at http://www.netosausage.com/   Veronica Perry DeMello   From: Shirley Allegre

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Thamos (spelling?)

2013-05-24 Thread pico
Rosemarie,I drove past the Nut Tree recently, so at least the building is there, but don't know if it's open for business.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Thamos

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Thamos (spelling?)

2013-05-24 Thread celeste perry
Yes, Shirley, you can buy some when you come to visit me.  Silva's Bakery in Hayward has them.  Luso, formerly San Leandro, closed so none there. Celeste  Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com From: Shirley Allegre shir...@digitalpath.net To:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Thamos (spelling?)

2013-05-24 Thread Joan Jurancich
At 05:00 PM 5/24/2013, you wrote: Shirley, My Mom used to stop at the Nut Tree in Vacaville and pick them up. That was years ago but you might call them (if the Nut Tree is still there!). Rosemarie The Nut Tree has been gone for over a decade. Joan Jurancich joa...@surewest.net --