[AZORES-Genealogy] I'm having trouble with surname of mother of the bride.

2014-02-12 Thread Aaron Pereira
Hello, I'm having trouble identifying the surname of mother of the bride, Maria de ? Initially, I thought it was Machado, but de Machado doesn't sound right.I also thought de Mello, but it looks a little too long for that.Any help will be appreciated. Thanks. This

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Interesting purple stuff on the pages

2014-02-12 Thread Ricardo Chaves
Isabella, GREAT blog, loved the photo colorizing article! On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Tish M tish.me...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Isabella, I applaud your work. Tish On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Isabella Baltar myportuguese...@gmail.com wrote: I went to Terceira for two

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Andre de Carvalho Beatriz Ferreira Ginetes 1635-17??

2014-02-12 Thread John Raposo
Dear Rick: Until Manuel's recent clarification, I too was in a muddle. The problem is as follows: There is André Carvalho (de Benevides) married to Isabel Ferreira, whom we now know were married in Ginetes. We know the names of their fathers, but not their mothers'. Based on their stated ages

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Interesting purple stuff on the pages

2014-02-12 Thread MaryAnn Santos
Isabella, might you consider one of the crowd sourcing internet sites to raise money for this project. I certainly would donate. MaryAnn Santos On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Ricardo Chaves chave...@gmail.com wrote: Isabella, GREAT blog, loved the photo colorizing article! On Tue, Feb

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with maternal grandmother's name

2014-02-12 Thread Kathy Cardoza
Erica My husband's great grandmother was named Quiteira. In the U.S., it was Americanized to be Gertrude. Kathy ~~~ Visit the Azores GenWeb Project: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Andre de Carvalho Beatriz Ferreira Ginetes 1635-17??

2014-02-12 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
John did you mean Beatriz Ferreira instead of Isabel Ferreira? I also have been adding carefully adding these people to my data base with careful checks and noting of the sourses. Manuel Martins son of Joao Martins and Agueda Rodrigues weds on 2 Nov 1705 to Beatriz Ferreira (another

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Andre de Carvalho Beatriz Ferreira Ginetes 1635-17??

2014-02-12 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
I think I just found another daughter of Andre Carvalho Beatriz Ferreira. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1 713/SMG-PD-GINETES-C-1646-1713_item1/P37.html upper left. A marriage on 6 Mar 1686 Sebastiao Perreira son of of Pedro Perreira ? and Luzia de ?

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Andre de Carvalho Beatriz Ferreira Ginetes 1635-17??

2014-02-12 Thread rcapodc
Richard, I don’t know the names in Sao Miguel but one question, If Sebastiam is Perreira (PE) why does the priest write Pedro’s name PYerra? I think the second name of Pedro is Crispo/Crespo?? Is that a name from SM? Rosemarie From: Richard Francis Pimentel Sent: Wednesday, February 12,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Andre de Carvalho Beatriz Ferreira Ginetes 1635-17??

2014-02-12 Thread mances
Rick, Sebastião Roiz son of Pedro Roiz Crespo and Luzia da Costa Manoel Em quarta-feira, 12 de fevereiro de 2014 14h46min39s UTC-2, Richard Francis Pimentel escreveu: *I think I just found another daughter of Andre Carvalho Beatriz Ferreira.

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Andre de Carvalho Beatriz Ferreira Ginetes 1635-17??

2014-02-12 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
Thanks Manoel, I should have compared it with the “P” in Pedro there is clearly a difference, the “R” is older script and looks like what we would see as a “P”. Working with these older documents is like learning to read again. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From:

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help With Translation

2014-02-12 Thread shannon hooper
Thank you so very much!! Can you tell what comes after 'forem padrinhos'? On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 6:06:42 PM UTC-6, shannon hooper wrote: Hello, I have just recently begun tracing family lines into the Azores and have just recently discovered this group. I was hoping that you could

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help in determining parish of origin

2014-02-12 Thread Dano
Pai nao sabido means you'll never know for sure who the parents are. It is a bad policy - one that puts the parents' convenience ahead of the needs of the child, and, of future generations. It needs to be ended. Having said that one can only guess. In the instant matter, the fact that Maria dos

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help With Translation

2014-02-12 Thread Joe Matias
fenda da rua is actually fundo da rua meaning end of the street.They lived at the end of the street. After that it reads neta paterno (paternal granddaughter of Marianno and barbara and maternal grandparents are unknown.Padrinhos (godparents ) Francisco Raposo de Resendes,labourer and his sister

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I'm having trouble with surname of mother of the bride.

2014-02-12 Thread Joe Matias
My quess for surname would be macedo,i have seen this surname in many records On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 3:43 AM, Aaron Pereira pereirah...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I'm having trouble identifying the surname of mother of the bride, Maria de ? Initially, I thought it was

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Interesting purple stuff on the pages

2014-02-12 Thread Isabella Baltar
Yes, MaryAnn, I have been considering it and talked to BPARAH about it. Razoo (http://www.razoo.com/) is one fundraiser that I may use in the future for that. Isabella On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:02 AM, MaryAnn Santos m...@nyu.edu wrote: Isabella, might you consider one of the crowd sourcing

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help in determining parish of origin

2014-02-12 Thread Cheri Mello
I am working with one of my dad's DNA matches who has a pai incognito or pai nao sabido. My dad is his strongest match, suggesting a 2nd cousin level, BUT, my dad's DNA really gives the wrong prediction because his grandparents were double first cousins. This match also matches just about

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Interesting purple stuff on the pages

2014-02-12 Thread MaryAnn Santos
That's great. Let us know when you've started. Best, MaryAnn On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:23 AM, Isabella Baltar myportuguese...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, MaryAnn, I have been considering it and talked to BPARAH about it. Razoo (http://www.razoo.com/) is one fundraiser that I may use in the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Faial parish name

2014-02-12 Thread Ricardo Chaves
I beleive its FAIAL DA TERRA - POVOACAO - SAO MIGUEL good luck On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Rodney Figueiredo rodn...@gmail.comwrote: I found a marriage record for one of my ancestors Manoel de Medeiros in Vila Franca do Campo in 1747. It mentions that his mother Antonia Raposa de

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Help With Translation

2014-02-12 Thread Ricardo Chaves
Hi, its FUNDO DA RUA Word FUNDO means bottom! Also many times used is TERMO DE , that means end of a place, where another starts, or very close to it! FENDA means crack! God parents: Francisco Raposo de Resendes and his sister Maria Rapozo Resendes On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 5:12 AM, shannon

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose

2014-02-12 Thread Susan Vargas Murphy
Hi Marcio, I am not sure that it means 2nd and 4th cousins? I looked back on some old posts that I saved from my computer and this is one that Joao SL Filho in Brazil posted long ago: Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 21:12:30 -0300 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=E3o_S._Lopes_Filho?= To: azore...@rootsweb.com

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2014-02-12 Thread Cheri Mello
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with translation Topo,Sao Jorge Surnames Goncalves and Jose

2014-02-12 Thread Marcio Borba
Means that, in this case, the grooms grandparents are the same as one set of the brides gggrandparents. Jose Antonio Goncalves father was Manuel Gonçalves Fagundes, son of Antonio Simao Fagundes and Catarina Maria. Mariana Jose mother was Maria Vitorina, daughter of Angela Mariana, daughter of

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Faial parish name

2014-02-12 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
It is NS da Graca in Fayal da Terra, Povoacao. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rodney Figueiredo Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 12:28 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy]

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Faial parish name

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Faial parish name

2014-02-12 Thread Dano
Well, you're close... the church (chapel) Ermida de Nossa Senhora da Penha da Franca, and it is located in Agua Retorta (not Faial da Terra).. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help With Translation

2014-02-12 Thread Hermano C. Pires
Shannon HJust to clean it up a bit and note mother's name. N 22 MariaAos vinte tres dias do mez maio do ano demil oito cento oitenta e seis nesta Igreja Parochialde Nossa Senhora da Graca do lugar do Fayalconcelho da Pavoacao Diocese de Angra baptiseisolenementeum individuodo sexo

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Faial parish name

2014-02-12 Thread Ricardo Chaves
Both are mentioned in the record, Agua Retorta's ERMIDA is in the above line of Faial da Terra's Church line! On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Dano dpai...@gmail.com wrote: Well, you're close... the church (chapel) Ermida de Nossa Senhora da Penha da Franca, and it is located in Agua Retorta

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] I'm having trouble with surname of mother of the bride.

2014-02-12 Thread Marcio Borba
 Looks like Macedo to me Marcio Borba Feel the Azores... visit http://azorean-roots.blogspot.com Em Quarta-feira, 12 de Fevereiro de 2014 3:43, Aaron Pereira pereirah...@gmail.com escreveu: Hello,   I'm having trouble identifying the surname of mother of the bride, Maria

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2014-02-12 Thread Cheri Mello
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with names in this record

2014-02-12 Thread Erica Botelho
I cannot make out the mother's name for the entry in the top left corner for Candida. I also need help with both maternal grandparents' names. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1834- 1843/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1834-1843_item1/P70.html Thanks, Erica --

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2014-02-12 Thread Geraldo Dutra de Andrade Neto
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[AZORES-Genealogy] I'm having trouble with surname of mother of the bride.

2014-02-12 Thread Dano
Bride's mother's name is Maria de Macedo. Umbelina was marrying into the Medeiros Brilhante family of Ponta Garca. One of Manuel and Umbelina's sons (Antonio Medeiros Brilhante) married a second cousin of mine (Antonia Emilia da Conceicao Sousa or Paiva) 27-Dec-1855 (PG). Their child, Maria de

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Faial parish name

2014-02-12 Thread Dano
Ricardo, you've just encountered the first rule of genealogy (read everything first). I didn't mention NS da Graca because anyone doing genealogy in Povoacao should know that it is the only church in FdT. On the other hand, NS Penha da Franca is not that well known, and, it is not in FdT, it is

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Need help with Faial parish name

2014-02-12 Thread Rodney Figueiredo
Thank you to everyone. This really helps. On Wednesday, February 12, 2014 1:28:13 PM UTC-5, Rodney Figueiredo wrote: I found a marriage record for one of my ancestors Manoel de Medeiros in Vila Franca do Campo in 1747. It mentions that his mother Antonia Raposa de Medeiros was from

[AZORES-Genealogy] First name of Mlina?

2014-02-12 Thread Erica Botelho
What is the name of the girl in the baptismal record on the right side, bottom of the page? Is it Mlina? http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1814- 1821/SMG-PD-SAOROQUE-B-1814-1821_item1/P106.html Thanks, Erica -- For options, such as changing to List,

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] First name of Mlina?

2014-02-12 Thread Diane Geoge
Don't know if it's a Portuguese name or not, but it looks like Albina to me. Diane From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Erica Botelho Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2014 6:51 PM To: azores@googlegroups.com; azores@googlegroups.com Subject:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with names in this record

2014-02-12 Thread Cheri Mello
Erica B, The mom looks like Januaria Jacinta. I'm sure on the Jacinta part. I've never seen the name Januaria, so maybe someone else has a better idea. Maternal grands: Manuel de Benevides and Sebastianna de Conceicao. and Sebastianna is e Sebastianna in Portuguese and he ran it together so

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] First name of Mlina?

2014-02-12 Thread Cheri Mello
I've seen a few Albinas. Not many. On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 9:59 PM, Diane Geoge digeorg...@hotmail.com wrote: Don't know if it's a Portuguese name or not, but it looks like Albina to me. Diane *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Erica

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] First name of Mlina?

2014-02-12 Thread Richard Francis Pimentel
Albina - The writer makes his capitol A and half the letter M almost the same. In this case it looks like an M because of the second letter L which makes the A look like an M. The letters lbina are the last letters of the name Albina. Rick Richard Francis Pimentel Spring, TX

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] First name of Mlina?

2014-02-12 Thread pico
Yes, Albina is actually not so uncommon in some places, like Terceira.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] First name of Mlina? From: "Richard Francis Pimentel"

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Faial parish name

2014-02-12 Thread Dano
The point of the question is where the mother was from. She wasn't from Faial, she was from Agua Retorta, which had an Ermida (Nossa Senhora da Penha da Franca). That Ermida was subordinate (sufragenea) to Nossa Senhora da Graca, which was in Faial da Terra. (case closed)! -- For options,