Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CARVALHO - Santa Maria Island - Santo Espirito

2014-03-31 Thread Dano
I know you do Shirley, what I have I got from you and Cheri. BTW, thank you - that family turned out to be a major part of my family history. I've done some research on the children, but, I haven't been able to move the clock back on the earlier ancestors from when I originally got that data. So

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] there is no "DE Something" surnames in portuguese

2014-03-31 Thread Dano
Well, Cheri, they probably don't mean it, but, what kind of research will they turn out if they can't even get the names of the islands straight??? You know I'm on the east coast, only been to CA once in my life, but, even I know that San Miguel is in the Channel Islands - all it takes is a shor

[AZORES-Genealogy] Bishop Myron Cotta

2014-03-31 Thread terceira
I just read in the latest issue of O Progresso (by the Portuguese Historical Society of Sacramento) about the new Bishop Myron Cotta.Any chance that someone knows about his link to the Azores? It says his grandparents were immigrants and I assume they were from Terceira, since that's where most nam

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Not sure of fathers surname and padrinhos

2014-03-31 Thread Maria Lima
Sorry- for Antonio the first name on upper left hand page Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 31, 2014, at 11:01 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Maria Elena, > > There's 6 of them on the attached image. If you want people to help, you > need to specify which one (left middle, bottom right). > > >> On

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Not sure of fathers surname and padrinhos

2014-03-31 Thread Cheri Mello
Maria Elena, There's 6 of them on the attached image. If you want people to help, you need to specify which one (left middle, bottom right). On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Maria Lima wrote: > Is the father Francisco Jose de Resendes( I'm guessing ) > > > > http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/

[AZORES-Genealogy] Not sure of fathers surname and padrinhos

2014-03-31 Thread Maria Lima
Is the father Francisco Jose de Resendes( I'm guessing ) http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779/SMA-VP-SANTOESPIRITO-B-1765-1779_item1/P48.html Also the padrinhos puzzled me because it said the godfather was the son of - I could not decipher the n

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Salt Lake City Genealogy Conference, Registration Deadline coming up on April 1st!

2014-03-31 Thread Cheri Mello
If you are planning on coming, tomorrow (Tuesday) is the deadline. If you are booking your room and putting the check in the mail, please email directly off list at gfscherim at gmail.com so I know to expect your registration. For those who missed the announcement, here it is: Our genealogy and

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] there is no "DE Something" surnames in portuguese

2014-03-31 Thread Cheri Mello
The only San Miguel island that exists (that I could find on the Internet) is part of the Channel Islands of the coast of California. Wrong archipelago, wrong country, wrong ocean. And I know most people don't mean that! -- Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] there is no "DE Something" surnames in portuguese

2014-03-31 Thread Dano
All that be true, Carlos, however, there still* isn't* a "San" Miguel, or "San" Jorge, island in the Azores. If people want to "find their roots," they need to start by at least getting the names of the *islands*straight... On Monday, March 31, 2014 3:08:06 PM UTC-4, rchaves wrote: > > Hi, >

Re: _[AZORES-Genealogy]_Parishes_surrounding_Fajã_de _Baixo,_P.D.

2014-03-31 Thread Pam Santos
will do!! On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 5:45 PM, wrote: > These maps were created years ago by a volunteer named Ana Ghia-Pereira > who has mainland ancestry and resides in Toronto and I doubt is on this > list, but was on the old Portugal List on Rootsweb about 10 years ago. > She did a wonderful jo

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] there is no "DE Something" surnames in portuguese

2014-03-31 Thread Shirl Sereque
Holland I also have ancestors who lived in Holland.  They were Jewish, thrown out of some other anti-Jewish country.  Eventually they went to England. - Shirl - On Monday, March 31, 2014 6:00 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: Ricardo C, That's what I mean.  I think when the more recent people came to Am

RE: _[AZORES-Genealogy]_Parishes_surrounding_Fajã_de _Baixo,_P.D.

2014-03-31 Thread pico
These maps were created years ago by a volunteer named Ana Ghia-Pereira who has mainland ancestry and resides in Toronto and I doubt is on this list, but was on the old Portugal List on Rootsweb about 10 years ago. She did a wonderful job and so if you ever encounter her in the future, you can than

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Parishes surrounding Fajã de Baixo, P.D.

2014-03-31 Thread Pam Santos
I always use this map on Doug Holmes website http://www.dholmes.com/master-list/azores/smiguel.html On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Tanya S, > > Go to the Azores GenWeb here. There will be a different map there soon, > but in the meantime, scroll down: > http://www.roots

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] there is no "DE Something" surnames in portuguese

2014-03-31 Thread pico
In regards the word "apelido" you will find natives in the Azores use it to also mean "alcunha" because that's exactly what I found on my two visits there. But when I inquired further, they did agree that nickname is better translated as alcunha.In regards "da" and other surname prefixes, when I re

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Grande Records

2014-03-31 Thread Herb
Hello It very well could be him. I just took another look at his death certificate and it says he died on 11 Dec 1952 at age 80. If he was born in Jan 1871 and died in Dec 1952 he would have been 81 not 80 right? What do you make of this information Eliseu? Interesting that the Godfather w

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.

2014-03-31 Thread Cheri Mello
Lyn S/B, If your ancestor stated on his own marriage certificate that his parents were unknown, then he was one of those babies that was given up at the church roda. If you think he was born in Santa Cruz or Lajes on Flores, you can look in those 2 freguesias for a baby Jose born to pais incognit

[AZORES-Genealogy] Still Looking for.Joseph Silva, Born 1830, I believe Flores. Went to boston, then came to Australia in 1855.

2014-03-31 Thread crazy6girl
Azores Genealogy *** Hello. I hope someone can help me. I have been trying to get above this part of my Silva, Ancestry. for 8 years, now. But each time I get to my Great Great Grandfather, Joseph Silva, I hit a brick wall. I have been told his Parents names, but, each

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] there is no "DE Something" surnames in portuguese

2014-03-31 Thread Cheri Mello
Ricardo C, That's what I mean. I think when the more recent people came to America and said their name was Da Silva or whatever, it is misunderstood and "Da" becomes part of their name. Then they had kids who went to school here and they grow up thinking that their name is really "DaSilva" and n

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA from parents

2014-03-31 Thread Cheri Mello
I'd call Customer Service at FTDNA on that one. 713-868-1438 On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:23 PM, wrote: > I just wrote a long and detailed message to my cousins in an attempt to > convince some to get DNA testing and one of the points I brought up was the > fact that we don't all get the same DNA

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Parishes surrounding Fajã de Baixo, P.D.

2014-03-31 Thread Cheri Mello
Tanya S, Go to the Azores GenWeb here. There will be a different map there soon, but in the meantime, scroll down: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/saomiguel.html Freguesia are alphabetical. Scroll down to Candaleria and note it's in Ponta Delgada. The keep on scrolling to Ginetes and

[AZORES-Genealogy] DNA from parents

2014-03-31 Thread pico
I just wrote a long and detailed message to my cousins in an attempt to convince some to get DNA testing and one of the points I brought up was the fact that we don't all get the same DNA from our parents which is proven because my nephew from my sister has at least one or two matches to people wit

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: there is no "DE Something" surnames in portuguese

2014-03-31 Thread Ângela Loura
My great uncle had to let the "de" go as part of the naturalization (and keep only 1 of his 2 family names, "by order of court"). Maybe the other choise he was given was to "change" the name to "DeLoura". But that still doesn't change the fact that he is "Loura" in his birth and baptism records. Pe

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Júlia da Encarnaçao (1862)

2014-03-31 Thread Joseph Costa
p.s. the couple from the 1700s were both born and married at Ponta Garça - NS de Piedade. On Mar 31, 2014, at 6:04 PM, JR wrote: > Yes, that's what I have. So it seems there are two couples by the same name > of Francisco Furtado with Maria Jacinta, about the same period. I gave Joseph > the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Júlia da Encarnaçao (1862)

2014-03-31 Thread Joseph Costa
There two couples but they are distinct. 1)Francisco Furtado (my 2nd great grandfather) x Maria Jacinta -- married 15 Dec 1856. 2) Francisco Furtado (my 4th great grandfather and the grandfather of the 1st one) x Maria Jacinta (this is the couple that Shirley is talking about) -- he was born

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Verissimo Family

2014-03-31 Thread terceira
Interesting. I didn't know about this branch in Graciosa.Did you ever happen to look into DNA testing?I wrote about it here and maybe it will help you decide:www.dholmes.com/dna.htmlSo it seems to me you have a branch of ancestors from Terceira, or maybe these are just your in-laws?Doug da Rocha Ho

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Júlia da Encarnaçao (1862)

2014-03-31 Thread JR
Yes, that's what I have. So it seems there are two couples by the same name of Francisco Furtado with Maria Jacinta, about the same period. I gave Joseph the line I have, but now that you have raised it, he is going to have to verify which couple is his ancestor. JR On Monday, March 31, 2014 5

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Júlia da Encarnaçao (1862)

2014-03-31 Thread Shirley Allegre
Does anyone know if Francisco Furtado X Maria Jacinta had a daughter MEGUELINA DE JESUS ROSA that married a JOSE ANTONIO DE MEDEIROS in Ribeira Quente, on 17 July 1843 Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Joseph Costa To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, March 28,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Verissimo Family

2014-03-31 Thread max leite
are they related to the Verissimo-leite in graciosa VerissimoOn Monday, January 7, 2013 7:42:56 PM UTC-5, Doug da Rocha Holmes wrote: > > Dan, > > I know this Terceira family. > Contact me here if interested: > terc...@dholmes.com > > > Doug da Rocha Holmes > Sacramento, California > Pico Geneal

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Parishes surrounding Fajã de Baixo, P.D.

2014-03-31 Thread Tanya Smith
Hi Cheri, I followed your link www.etombo.pt and is looking to research church records of my GG Grandfather - I went as far as Sao Miguel on the sight but did not know where to go from there. Municípios Lagoa 211 Nordeste 276 Ponta Delgada

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: there is no "DE Something" surnames in portuguese

2014-03-31 Thread Dano
Good going, Eliseu, most of the time, they don't get the prefix right anyway. Well what can you expect from people who don't know that St. Michael, and, St George in Portuguese is Sao Miguel and Sao Jorge. On Monday, March 31, 2014 1:30:06 PM UTC-4, Eliseu Pacheco da Silva wrote: > > Hi! > > Som

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CARVALHO - Santa Maria Island - Santo Espirito

2014-03-31 Thread Shirley Allegre
I have Manoel de Mello X Anna Moura from Sao Pedro - Santa Maria island. Manoel was born about 1648. Shirley in CA - Original Message - From: Dano To: azores@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 7:05 AM Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] CARVALHO - Santa Maria Island -

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Grande Records

2014-03-31 Thread Eliseu Pacheco da Silva
HI, There is a José exposto that “fits” your José. In the book of 1871, registry nº 24, folium 10, left, we can read: Baptized at 8 February 1871, Matriz, Ribeira Grande. It says he was born the day before. He was exposto number 1825 in the Roda da Câmara, Rua do Val, Freguesia da Concei

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] there is no "DE Something" surnames in portuguese

2014-03-31 Thread Ricardo Chaves
Sorry, i forgot to say, why do I see many times PT descendents in the US adopting this kind of surname? DeMelo DeSousa DeSilva or DaSilva etc On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 7:08 PM, Ricardo Chaves wrote: > Hi, > > all that is called evolution! It has been "happening" here as time goes > by! I sure w

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Grande Records

2014-03-31 Thread Herb
yes they would be part of the Ribeira Grande records On Monday, March 31, 2014 9:55:19 AM UTC-4, Joanne wrote: > > João, > I'm waiting for records from Rabo de Peixe - would they be part of this > site? > > *Joanne* > > *Joanne Medeiros Grota Mercier* > Researching Bretanha (Medeiros Grota, Benev

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] there is no "DE Something" surnames in portuguese

2014-03-31 Thread Ricardo Chaves
Hi, all that is called evolution! It has been "happening" here as time goes by! I sure would find awkward if my name was Xaves instead of Chaves or Joseph instead of José, or Joachim instead of Joaquim, etc. If you are registered with a prefix in your name, you cannot simply decide to "throw" it

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Grande Records

2014-03-31 Thread Herb
Hi Eliseu I am looking for Jose Sousa Silva who married Cecilia da Conceicao Pacheco on Feb 1892. In fact I have their marriage record, (married in Sao Jose PD) what I am looking for is his baptism He was an "exposto da roda" from NS da Estrela RG, and I was hoping to see who the Godparen

[AZORES-Genealogy] Tony Capodicci

2014-03-31 Thread rcapodc
My Dear Azores Group Family, I am writing to let you know that my husband, Tony, passed away this past Friday. I have spoken with my girls and other family members and they are all encouraging me to go to Salt Lake City and teach at the Conference. Cheri told me that there were several people

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] there is no "DE Something" surnames in portuguese

2014-03-31 Thread Eliseu Pacheco da Silva
Hi Cheri! Of course you are right. Just makes me "crazy" because people always say they can not find this and this at my data base. I think it is worth to let them know this once in a while. they need to know that there is a difference! When I research in Holland I do not research with Port

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] there is no "DE Something" surnames in portuguese

2014-03-31 Thread Cheri Mello
HI Eliseu, Try to explain that to people who immigrated to America a while ago and went to American schools. Roll call...and their names are in the D section! They seriously think their name begins with a D and they look at me like I'm crazy when I try to explain the pre-surname thing. But if w

[AZORES-Genealogy] there is no "DE Something" surnames in portuguese

2014-03-31 Thread Eliseu Pacheco da Silva
Hi! Someone told me that she could not find anyone at my web page... after a while I realized why!!! She was looking for DE PACHECO or DA SILVA or other DE/DA/DO/DOS combinations: - There is no Portuguese surnames such as: DE (DA/DAS/DO/DOS) COSTA, DE SILVA, DE AMARAL!!! As an exa

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Grande Records

2014-03-31 Thread Eliseu Pacheco da Silva
Hi! Are you looking for José de Sousa Silva married to Jorgina? Son of Maximino and Guilhermina from Ribeira Seca, Ribeira Grande? Eliseu Pacheco da Silva Researching Açores (São Miguel and Graciosa) and Alentejo ( http://gw.geneanet.org/eliseumanuel ) -- For options, such as changing to Lis

[AZORES-Genealogy] Help to understand

2014-03-31 Thread Ubirajara Jales de Lira
Hello, I found the name of my grandmother: Josefa Gomes de Oliveira. I need that somebody tell if the name of her father is José Gomes de Oliveira with this record: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17231-8159-10?cc=2177294&wc=M78D-2M3:371343201,371343202,371434201. Now, I need that s

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Ribeira Grande Records

2014-03-31 Thread Joanne Mercier
João, I'm waiting for records from Rabo de Peixe - would they be part of this site? Joanne Joanne Medeiros Grota Mercier Researching Bretanha (Medeiros Grota, Benevides, deSouza), Lagoa (Luiz, d'Oliveira Homem) and Rabo de Peixe (Martins Gouveia) On Mar 31, 2014, at 9:33 AM, João Ventura wro

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ribeira Grande Records

2014-03-31 Thread João Ventura
Hi everyone, Just remembered one thing. A few of the Ribeira Grande (Matriz) records are available here: http://arquivodigital.uac.pt/yii/arquivodigital/index.php?r=site/page&view=arg I'd already announced it on this list before, but you may have missed it. Regards, João Ventura http://tombo.