NS da Ajuda, Bretanha, baptismos, No-42
Mariana, born- May 12- 1903, bap- May 17- 1903, filha de Antao da Camara,
native Sao Sebastiao de Ponta Delgada, campaneo and Vicencia de Jesus,
native of Ajuda, Bretanha, where they married,are parishioners and reside
in Lomba da Pacheca? (area), of this
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When the father is stated in a birth record as the Official Alfaiate, what does
it really mean. I know the translation but; who is he the Official Tailor to?
The village, a specific person or what?
Thanks all,
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
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I can't speak on your record but my mother was a seamstress and at 17 she
was the seamstress the soldiers took their pants to me hemmed and pressed.
I'm not sure she had the official title but that is what she was known for
and it was her job. This was in the mid 1930's though. This is also how she
I think in this case "official" is better translated as journeyman or
craftsman than as an equivalent to the English word "official". Oficina
means workshop.
Bill
On Friday, March 22, 2019 at 11:02:03 AM UTC-7, Leonor Bertoni wrote:
> I can't speak on your record but my mother was a seamstres
Dear Angela;
Thank you very much for your kind words.
The subject of Names is much more complex than what is said in the
abovementioned book. We made it a little bit too simple. We had to, because
that was just a small part of the book.
That is why me and Cristina we are writing down a second bo
Some small changes:
“A second name of devotion may be regarded as a last name if it came from
previous generations and / or was repeatedly used in the same family in
subsequent generations. However, these second main/first names of devotion
often were not last names and, especially in the case of
Angela, thank for the information but would you please make your outgoing
mail font a little larger! Many of us have eye problems and having the font
soo small is very hard on the eyes!
Thanks so much,
Rosemarie
rcap...@gmail.com
Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azore
I think oficial-alfaiate was the one who sow the pieces together, There was
also the meste-alfaiate, amd others.
Leonor Bertoni escreveu no dia sexta, 22/03/2019
à(s) 18:02:
> I can't speak on your record but my mother was a seamstress and at 17 she
> was the seamstress the soldiers took their p
In several craft jobs (tailors, masons, wood carvers, etc) workers had 3
categories: aprendiz (aprentice), oficial, and mestre (master). That's the
explanation for "official de alfaiate": he was not an aprentice, nor a
master yet.
Francisco Queiroz
("Genealogia sem segredos" researcher)
'Sam (
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1880-1889/SMG-PD-AJUDABRETANHA-B-1880-1889_item1/P257.html
Right side of page - No. 42 ( Scotch tape visible)
I am having difficulty with the following baptismal record. Was Maria born
on the 9th of May 1886 or baptised o
Francisco, That makes sense. Thanks so much for bothering to educate me! 😊
Angela, thank you as well! 😊
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
From: Genealogia sem segredos
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2019 4:36 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Official Alfaiate (Official Tailor)?
In sev
Luis; 7th line down; Maria was born on the 4th of May 1886. The date at the
top is the baptism.
I think mom is Maria da Sacramento but; tough to say for sure. I see the same
as you do for the dad.
Paternal grandparents are: Avos Incognito
Maternal grandparents are: Jose or Joaa Matteus Olive
The mother is Maria da Sacramento.
The paternal Grandparents are Unknown
The maternal Grandparents are Joao Matheus de Oliveira and Francisca de Jesus.
Rick
Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, NH
Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande, Bretanha, and Ponta
Delgada, Sao Mig
I’m having trouble trying to download the file. The download turns out to be a
link to google and then nothing appears. Can anyone tell me how to download
the actual file? I’m using a pc and windows 10.
Thanks,
Sam (Mazatlán, MX)
From: 'Kathy Cardoza' via Azores Genealogy
Sent: Friday, Marc
Hi Francisco, I'm glad you're here sharing yuur experience with us!
I really think that there will be a day when English spokesmen will be able
to buy these books in an English version, people just need to know they
exist and the added value they bring to our portuguese Genealogy
researches.
A sex
Lucas,I descend from the Francisco Dutra family in Cedros, Faial and also a
descendant of Van Hurtere (Dutra or D'Utra) family. I do not have the book
you are looking for but please give me some additional information on your
family and maybe we can connect. Thanks,Donna Dutra Wood -Ori
Maria was born May 4, baptized May 9, 1886 parents Antao da Camara? from
Sao Sebastiao Ponta delgada
mother Maria do Sacramento Bretanha
Sorry best I can do..Eyes not co-operating today. Hope somebody else can
help
On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 7:36 PM Luis Arruda wrote:
>
> http://culturacores.azo
Sam,
I had to send the file to myself by email and then I could make a google
doc to save it. I used my iPhone. I could try sharing it with you and let
you save it to your computer. Not sure whether you would need to open it
in excel or just save it as an excel file once you have it.
Debbie.
j
Record no- 3, casamentos, Feb 6- 1875
Matriz de NS do Rozario, Villa do Topo, Concelho de Calheta, Ilha de Sao
Jorge
Newlyweds, Jose Antonio Gomes and Maria Delfina Brasil; He is thirty three
years old, proprietario (property owner), single, legitimate son of Joao
Antonio Gomes and Barbara Joaq
I left a reply with your first message. Now that it is clearer, the name
appears to be Maria do Sacramento, costureira (seamstress), not Livramento
as I first thought. Richard has the rest. But keep an eye out for
Livramento in case you can't find Antao Camara with a Maria Sacramento in
Bretanh
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